I put Ubuntu 9.10 on my USB drive for the hell of it, it boots faster then windows if I want to just browse the web and works great for cleaning files windows won't for whatever reason.
But I went to install ScummVM earlier (it's an 8 gig drive, space isn't a real issue), and it complained about a missing library (Libfluid something). I went into synaptics to look for it, and it isn't there.
Surely GBK or another Linux guy can help me? I like this operating system I just need a little help getting used to it.

Welcome to Linux.

Did you install scummvm from the packages or from source?

Package

libfluid? never heard of it.

Pretty much what Darth said, though. Linux is all about spending a month setting up, fixing configurations and hunting down missing dependencies... then never, ever touching it again. Don't poke the bear.

"libfluidsynth1". It's in Ubuntu. Try this as root:



Then install ScummVM.

Alright I'll try that when I get a chance.
Thanks.

If you grab scummvm from a package repository it will automatically download dependencies.

Well I just downloaded the package from the site, ran the thing, at the window said it was missing that thingy.
Oh god I can't believe how little I know about linux.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=scummvm

Sadly doesn't look like it's up to date unless you're using the 10.04 alpha, though, which is the only real complaint I have about package repositories.

Version numbers are also version date? That's a neat way of doing it.

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Don't download it from the ubuntu package site.

Okay, what do I do with this command?
I tried throwing it into terminal, but it didn't work.
Sorry guys, im terribly new at this. Only gonna have to show me once though.
Incase it helps this is the full error when trying to install scummvm: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libfluidsynth1

Putting that into terminal without the # gave me a "Couldn't find package" error.

Try this:



-f tells apt to try to automatically correct dependency problems.

Alright, I got Scummvm installed. I ended up hunting through the Ubuntu site for 5 or six packages.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, and damnit I wish I knew about the command before.

I didn't mean he should, I just linked to show that scummvm was in there.

But I can see how I might have been misunderstood. Yeah don't download packages from there, plug the package name into synaptic or apt get.



Ooh that works with .debs you install with dpkg? I'll have to remember that.

Debian package installation is a cake walk compared to the crap you have to go through on windows. The issues arise when you start wanting software not in their repositories (or are impatient and need a new version NOW). In that case, you need to learn some more. *shrug*

Yeah, running setup.exe and clicking next a bunch of times is so hard!

Asking you if you want to change the default installation folder is so confusing though!

I suppose you guys haven't ever installed anything more complicated than a text editor. I did an endpoint virtualization comparative test for my work the past few weeks. Every single one of them was a nightmare -- citrix xenapp, ms appv, symantec workspace streaming, symantec workspace virtualization, vmware thinapp (actually thinapp was easy). Every one of them had external crap you had to download, install, and configure separately, and it was stuff that had to be downloaded from obscure sites scattered throughout the internet.

Debian-based linux distros generally have all dependencies mapped out in the package and the package manager will go out and download and install them all for you automatically. The OP clearly wasn't installing something from the "official" repositories and just like I can't blame MS because the xenapp installer doesn't include all dependencies, you can't blame debian because some dude made his own .deb package and didn't provide links to all the dependencies.

Windows has all sorts of crazy warts and installation issues; it's completely ignorant to try to pretend like this is a linux problem.

And those are much easier on Linux?? You're talking about huge, heavyweight applications. It's not fair to compare those to ScummVM.

Windows, small apps: dead easy.
Windows, huge apps: very difficult.

Linux, small aps: dead easy OR, very difficult
Linux, huge apps: very difficult

Yeah, comparing server apps to a simple application like ScummVM is silly. Of course there are also some Windows server apps that are pretty damn easy to install these days (especially a lot of first-party MS stuff).

But I wouldn't know, cause I've only ever installed text editors. All the Windows server application consulting and development I've done doesn't count.

Ok right, small windows app: citrix xenapp client plugin. Try it... Your point is taken, in general, small apps are easy on windows. But just as in linux, sometimes the small apps also become a pain in the *** -- this isn't a linux vs. windows problem. It's ignorant to think this is a linux problem.

In general Windows is great for mainstream use and gaming.
Linux is great for those who know what they are doing, heavy duty stuff where you need to know and control 100% of the operating system, or a free OS for those who just use firefox.

Argument averted?

I'm starting over, since I was stupid and didn't create a persistance file.
When I go to software center, and try and install ScummVM, it says "Not available in current data".
When I use the command GBK provided earlier in terminal (# sudo apt-get -f install scummvm) it says E: Couldn't find package scummvm.

Fixed that, just set the download sources.
This is actually quite fun, I know all of windows backdoors. Ubuntu is a learning experience.

...but it's Citrix


Perhaps, but it's just the annoyance that sometimes it is, at least for new users, astoundingly difficult to do simple things. I think, maybe it's almost more of a problem with out it's presented. Linux is hailed by many as being some kind of holy grail, newbies get lured into it only to find that's a complete lie and it's just another OS with its own strengths and weaknesses.

Yeah, you really don't. And I know you don't mean for security, either. Windows is incredibly complicated (for better or worse) and surprisingly customizable. There's a lot you don't see. Even experienced IT admins don't see half the things Windows can really do.

Fine, but I still know a lot more about Windows then Linux, which makes this interesting.

I don't think you know a lot about windows.

Fair enough, I just feel it necessary to point out that there is a lot more (often difficult to find) to Windows than most people see. And I'm not talking about "Top 10 Tips and Tricks in Windows" blog posts either.

That's fair, I really just meant that I know enough about windows that there isn't much left to discover that I could actually use, whereas Linux is a vast untamed wilderness.

Full of things you won't use, because you have no use for what linux offers.

I realize that, but I just want to explore.

LINUX: Cheaper than buying a new copy of Windows.

False: only more legal than not buying the same software twice.

Ah, but then I end up with 1000 different unrelated apps in the same folder, each with their own idea of organization. Adobe has a company folder instead of an app folder, some apps are top level in Program Files, some apps like cygwin think they're so important they install directly to C:\cygwin, etc...

I always have to change the location, partly to sort the programs into a more manageable organization (by program type... Game, Emulator, Network, Tweaking, Media, Graphics, etc), and also to move it to a different drive letter. That IS partly just my preference I realize, but I don't feel the need to do this in Linux since it strictly defines where program files go on the system, so there's no need for such prompts. All program binaries go in one folder and end up on the system path so I don't need to go hunting for them anyway, libraries go somewhere else, settings go in /etc... etc.

Thankfully SOME installers on Windows remember your install preferences for when you upgrade so I can just mash Next... but most don't.

Linux throws things around in quite a few folders as well, actually. >.>

Many of which are just nested folders called bin/

I'll have to agree with CM on this one. It bugs the **** out of me sometimes.