What the hell happened to that? The Russians go in to the school, shoot everything, and theres supposedly 100 bodies in the gym, cant they try and get ppl out peacefully rather than having another theatre situation?

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I just heard a report on how the fight started. A group of hostages managed to escape but were pursued by the rebels outside of the school and shot at; at which point the russian military had to intervene to protect those fleeing.

Not defending how this has turned out for Russia though as they obviously were not prepared for any of this at all.

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Its a complete shambles, the russians clearly arent prepared for anything like this

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Were you really surprised?

Actually, I thought no one would survive.

Things like this just didn't happen when Stalin was in charge.

At least that we knew of...

Well.. The russians.. Have the words best international anti terrorist group called the spetznaz.. They are the toughest special commando unit ever.. So, if numbers were stacked against them, then yes in a ratio they are not prepeard for this kind of thing..

Not going to use force? Stupid politics...

They did happen. Stalin was ordereing people killed :p

I thought this thread was going to be someone whining about how they suck at JK, JO, or JA....

I really wouldn't call the Spetznaz an anti-terrorist group. More like an elite commando unit, but they definitely weren't created to fight terrorists.

http://www.specialoperations.com/Foreign/Russia/

Missions
Although Spetsnaz units may be used for other purposes during peacetime, their primary role is to carry out strategic missions during the final days prior to war breaking out and in war itself. These wartime tasks would include: deep reconnaissance of strategic targets; the destruction of strategically important command-control-and-communications (C3) facilities;
the destruction of strategic weapons' delivery systems; demolition of important bridges and and transportation routes; and the snatching or assassination of important military and political leaders. Many of these missions would be carried out before the enemy could react and some even before war had actually broken out.

Alright I am convinced.. Maybe that wasnt the best way to "Use" the russian navial special commando squad "Speztnaz" To be a main role in anti terrorism. Just hard :mad:'s!

Nothing makes me more upset than when people blame the government for the poor handling of a hostage situation, instead of the terrorists for being such depraved animals.

Russia never, ever, capitulates to Terrorists.

Wasn't the theater take-over comprized terrorists from Chechnya? Yeah, the Russian's have to do something about that region or this is what they're going to get endlessly.

All the more reason to live in the US of A. *waves flag*

Because we're perfectly safe here

At least we have the FBI Hostage Rescure Team for stuff like that.

well, that's different :p

Won't be for long at the rate we piss people off on a daily basis.




Look at history, just about every empire went down in one violent way or another.

We'll get ours, just wait.

CNN.com is reporting 322 dead.

Hmm. CBSNews.com reports 348 people are dead.