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I like TRON too.

The funniest part is the advertisement on the back, like after seeing his own car, I'd ever bring my car to his shop.

*shrug* the wheels are ugly. But.. the guy obviously accomplished what he wanted, which was to get some attention, so good for him I guess.

But anyway, 3 series are meh.

x_x... JUST the wheels?

1 sik bmw rite?

the dragon 'vette (linked on that site) is even more awesome than that.69characterslefttotypenowigot40lalalalalala2624#aprilfools #9left4321

Are you sure you didn't mean to post this?

I'll take this one pls.

Spend a fortune buying it, spend a fortune maintaining it...

M3 is more fun.

Regular BMWs aren't even lookers to start with.

Bleh, I think the new BMW body styles are horrid. Looks like every other Lexus, Acura, Infiniti, etc out there. Much too generic.

I'll take a Laguna Seca E46 M3 any day of the week. Best body style hands down.

They're very well designed but they aren't special.

Why would you want an M5 when you could have an Audi A8?

They aren't well designed either, they just have one hell of a marketing department. They do **** differently just to do it differently, then convince people that means better. Try working on them for a while and you'll notice a whole lot of really ****ty designs that never needed to happen to make the car do what it does. They could make the cars perform in exactly the same way while using more standard parts/practices, but people are convinced that these differences are what makes the car "special".

I meant the industrial design, the appearance.


I know. They also have considerably lower reliability ratings than most consumer brands, even domestics, when ranked by warranty information, according to this source. Depends on the model of course, which this source ranks individually. BMW 3 series, according to them are less reliable than the Ford Focus.

Even if they were the highest rated in reliability, buying a BMW would still be stupid for most people. I see a lot of people driving them in the winter in Rochester. Do they REALLY think "German engineering" makes a damn bit of difference when you are driving through horrifically wet and salty conditions day in and day out? Cars break, harsh weather will tear up anything, and BMWs are NOT cheap to fix.

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This is kind of a misconception. Yes, parts are a bit more expensive, but BMW's (I'm discovering) are not terribly difficult to work on. I've done a lot of work and tinkering with my BMW since I got it, and it's no more difficult to work on than any European or Japanese car. Sure, it's nothing like working on a GMC or a Ford, but the idea that "BMW's are so weird you have to take them to the dealer or a European specialist to have them worked on" is turning out to be pretty unfounded.

Also, if you can't afford a BMW, then don't get one. Bottom line. But if you can, they're incredibly fun to drive, and project an image of wealth and luxury better than any other brand of car in my opinion. Lamborghini's and Ferrari's seem to try to hard to look sporty and exotic. Mercedes and Lexus are alright, but they don't excite me like BMWs do. Audi's I wouldn't even consider. Maybe there's nothing wrong with them, but to me, driving an Audi is no better than driving a Volkswagon.

Yknow wealth or luxury isn't something anything like a BMWwhat projects to me.

*shrug* well like I pointed out, it's all personal opinion.

Nothing projects wealth and luxury better than an Aston Martin...

*shrug* yeah Aston Martin's are cool. But to me you don't buy an Aston Martin unless you have hired someone else to drive you around. >.>

I never said they were hard to work on, just usually very badly designed and for no good reason. More of a pain in the ass than anything. I had a BMW come into the shop one time to get the battery replaced. Now, usually they're kind of a PITA and I accept this and move on. This one was on a whole other level. It was a wagon, though I can't remember now what model exactly. In order to get to the battery I had to remove almost the entire panel from the passenger side of the trunk area, then pull out a subwoofer to reach the battery. This thing seemed to be damn near the lowest point on the car and the battery was pretty damn big. A PITA to get to, and a PITA to remove once all the layers were peeled back. There was no reason the battery had to be back there, there was PLENTY of room under the hood for this thing.

What?? There are many other brands that show wealth and excess far more!

Why the hell would you buy a 2 seat coupe if you had a driver? So you can appear to be the friend of the guy who drives an Aston Martin?

You mean unless you're good at baccarat and womanizing.

And if people say 'ninja please' to you.

Rolls Royce.

It's subjective.
Personally I would rather a BMW then anything else, but I don't even have a license. I should but I'm too damn lazy to complete the test.

So basically what you're saying is they're the Apple of the car industry.

why would you... what. :confused::confused::confused:

MB can't even fit inside an Aston Martin.

*vomit*

I was just about to say the same thing.

Sorry Ford, Zarn is correct.

Nice, a comment worthy of both a "Zing!" and a "Damn good point, sir". Well played.

also...



I don't know what the hell kind of bmw you were working on, but 1) I've taken the battery in and out on mine probably 20 times. Yes, it is in the trunk, but it takes all of 5 minutes to pull the flap back, disconnect the terminals and pull the battery out... just like any other car, and 2) there wouldn't be room under the hood for the battery in mine, unless stuff was moved around. But advantages of having the battery in the trunk (since you said BMW did things differently for no reason) include easier access that doesn't intimidate more non-mechanical people (ie women :huh:), more options when using your car to jump start others (there's a spot in the front under the hood that's a positive battery jumping location, as well as the battery itself in the back). I could probably come up with more if I bothered to think about it.

Anyway, I'm not a mechanic, and I've done a number of things on my car, and I can honestly say, it hasn't been any more difficult to work on than any european or japanese car (I think I said this already). Yes you may have to do an ounce of research to find the part that's supposed to be in one spot, but bmw decided it made sense to put it somewhere else, but all in all, they're not hard at all to work on. Stuff I've done includes: changing starter (admittedly kind of a *****, cause it was hard to get to, but no harder than on my old '98 corolla), changing spark plugs (very easy, only difference between any other car was needing to pull off two panels that cover the plugs and wires. they had 2 bolts a piece to take them off), draining and refilling the transmission (had to buy a couple of the rarer tools, but overall not terribly difficult either), and troubleshooting and repairing a failed connection between the battery and the starter (this was probably the only one that I thought to myself "seriously BMW, that was stupid of you" because it turns out they put a pyrotechnic charge that severed the connection between the battery and starter when I inadvertently set it off. (don't ask how). They call it a safety feature, but I don't see how it's anything more than a pain in the ass.

But overall, not any more difficult than any other foreign vehicle, although it is true that parts tend to be a bit more expensive. But hey, I can afford it.

Come back when you've done some real maintenance and see if you feel the same way.

BMW has aircraft (like big ****ing jumbo air liner) grade anti-skid control.

They do a lot of things different, because they're better. They do however suck to work on. However they are no worse than Honda CRVs having a torque spec on their oil filters because they're above the serpentine belt, a 10 hour spark plug change on an Explorer, Volvo using ****ty wiring since like ****ing forever.

ALL new cars suck a dick to work on or have serious design flaws. The market discriminates against the used car market. Auto manufacturers make more money from new car sales.