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Your thoughts on welfare?
2010-04-23, 2:16 PM #41
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Republicans are generally good for the economy at the national level

Do you mean Republicans or conservatives? Because Bush was a "Republican" and was horrible for the economy.


Originally posted by Wookie06:
but places such as Detroit or New Orleans that always elect democrats will routinely flounder.

Did you ever stop to think there are other factors? New Orleans is a ****hole because of Katrina. Detroit has been a ****hole ever since the collapse of Motor city. Restoring those towns takes a lot more than just political alignment.

Originally posted by Wookie06:
Hell, it only took about two years for the democrat congress to push the national economy over the edge.

...don't you think Bush's ridiculous spending had ANYTHING to do with that? The economy was pretty damn good under Clinton, at least by today's standards.


Originally posted by Wookie06:
It's such a self fulfilling prophecy. Democrats destroy things, claim it's the Republicans fault, gain more power and wreak even more havoc. America wakes up, elects somebody like Reagan who shores things up and repairs some of the damage, and then the progressives slowly regain power to reestablish the offense on the country and, thus, the cycle starts anew.

These aren't black and white issues. I think you should try to understand what's really going on instead of regurgitating what you heard on The O'Reilly Factor.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2010-04-23, 2:21 PM #42
Originally posted by Emon:
The economy was pretty damn good under Clinton, at least by today's standards.
Countdown to Wookie claiming that Clinton was just riding the high from Reaganomics, even though market lag is measured in months not decades.
2010-04-23, 2:28 PM #43
Originally posted by Brian:
Anyway, I really posted it because I thought it was funny (not true) and a guy I know made that web site (but not the picture on it).


That looks like a fun site.

Home to finds such as this:

http://www.laughness.com/duck-hunt.120

(try games A and B before D)

Sorry for the distraction, just thought I'd mention. :)
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2010-04-23, 2:45 PM #44
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Countdown to Wookie claiming that Clinton was just riding the high from Reaganomics, even though market lag is measured in months not decades.


Well, of course, the market conditions and vast advances encouraged during the 80s had some effect but much of the fake money of the nineties also resulted from cooked books, basically. And of course it all came tumbling down towards the end of WJC's presidency.

Originally posted by Emon:
Do you mean Republicans or conservatives? Because Bush was a "Republican" and was horrible for the economy.


That's a fair point but I'm speaking in generalities and Republican congresses tend to be better. But Bush's spending was atrocious and that's why I lumped him in with the progressives. But it is true, as I often point out, Republicans are better when the conservatives take over the base.

Originally posted by Emon:
Did you ever stop to think there are other factors? New Orleans is a ****hole because of Katrina. Detroit has been a ****hole ever since the collapse of Motor city. Restoring those towns takes a lot more than just political alignment.


Please, New Orleans has been in terrible shape since long before Katrina. Katrina just managed to put the mismanagement of the town and the state to the forefront. You can only blame the collapse of Motor City for so much. At some point you need to transform to a viable model and that's has everything to do with local politics (unless you just want some of Obama's stash).

Originally posted by Emon:
These aren't black and white issues. I think you should try to understand what's really going on instead of regurgitating what you heard on The O'Reilly Factor.


O'Reilly is pretty much an Obama apologist so that one doesn't really work.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2010-04-23, 2:56 PM #45
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Well, of course, the market conditions and vast advances encouraged during the 80s had some effect but much of the fake money of the nineties also resulted from cooked books, basically. And of course it all came tumbling down towards the end of WJC's presidency.
Here, I'll repost it so you'll actually read it this time:
You have no idea what you're talking about. The present-day crisis has roots in financial deregulation pursued by George W. Bush and the Republican majority in the last two years of Clinton's presidency. Reagan's fiscal diarrhea cost George H. W. Bush his second term. The idea that the Republicans are good for the economy is a puerile fantasy.

Virtually all American corporations and industries other than finance and medicine lean to the left. Finance and medicine lean to the right because they profit the most from stupidity and chaos.

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That's a fair point but I'm speaking in generalities and Republican congresses tend to be better. But Bush's spending was atrocious and that's why I lumped him in with the progressives. But it is true, as I often point out, Republicans are better when the conservatives take over the base.
Ah. So when have these mysterious economic seers controlled the base?

Obviously not when Bush was in power. Or his dad, or Reagan. Nixon, maybe? Oh right, Nixon used the Economic Stabilization Act of 1970 to fix wages, so it couldn't have been Nixon.

Pass it to the left, Wookie.
2010-04-23, 3:09 PM #46
Actually, Ross Perot cost gHwb his second term. Coincidentally, Perot also cost us WJC's second term. Go figure. Other than that, you are more than welcome to your flawed opinions. I'm not one of those guys who walks around praising Reagan all the time but he was exactly the president we needed at the time. So, he had to pay off the democrats by spending tons of money on dumb social stuff. Perhaps he should have made them show their cards so they would have gotten thrown out.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2010-04-23, 3:20 PM #47
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Other than that, you are more than welcome to your flawed opinions.
God bless you, child.
2010-04-23, 3:25 PM #48
I didn't sneeze and I didn't feel anything enter my rectum.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2010-04-23, 3:27 PM #49
welfare pisses me off, i cant tell you how many times ive driven through Buffalo and seen these run down houses that look like aboslute **** and people walk out of them with the latest air nikes or a fancy car, then they probably ask for more money, dumb
2010-04-23, 5:32 PM #50
Originally posted by Couchman:
welfare pisses me off, i cant tell you how many times ive driven through Buffalo and seen these run down houses that look like aboslute **** and people walk out of them with the latest air nikes or a fancy car


They must be some pretty strong peeps. :gonk:
"it is time to get a credit card to complete my financial independance" — Tibby, Aug. 2009
2010-04-23, 6:47 PM #51
Originally posted by Wookie06:
I didn't sneeze and I didn't feel anything enter my rectum.


I'll be honest, I first thought this was a "brown-noser" kind of joke, and didn't initially get it.
the idiot is the person who follows the idiot and your not following me your insulting me your following the path of a idiot so that makes you the idiot - LC Tusken
2010-04-23, 7:02 PM #52
Originally posted by Couchman:
welfare pisses me off, i cant tell you how many times ive driven through Buffalo and seen these run down houses that look like aboslute **** and people walk out of them with the latest air nikes or a fancy car, then they probably ask for more money, dumb

Theres nothing saying that that isn't a credit card's work. :P
nope.
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