but I can't say for sure.

I don't think I was smart enough for this movie.
Someone smart watch Primer and tell me if it's good or complete bull.

(note: link requires a Netflix account)

Primer's really pretty ridiculous and awesome. You gotta love it for what it is and what it does to your inside-brain-y-parts.

You're just trying to make me sign up for netflix.

I'm off tomorrow. I might stay up and watch it tonight; If I don't, I'll watch it tomorrow.

I hear it's pretty awesome. Probably too high brow for you Navy boys, though.

Abe: It is weird, though.
Aaron: You wanna see something even weirder?
Aaron: Okay, let's go over this again. Two batteries, right? 24 volts? What are we pulling out of this one? Just for fun.
Abe: Twelve volts.
[Aaron unplugs the 12-volt battery and kicks it away from the device, which continues to hum with power]
Aaron: How about this one?
Abe: This would be... twelve volts.
[Aaron unplugs the second 12-volt battery and kicks it away from the device, which continues to hum with power. He shrugs]
Aaron: So what the hell is this thing?

Budget $7,000
Gross revenue $424,760
Whelp, I need to get into the budget Sci-Fi business.

Indie flicks are the bomb.

I watched this a few months ago. It's quite good for what it is.

I usually can't stand watching movies more than once, but Primer is so good and thought provoking without being revolutionary or novel. It's an interesting movie because it feels so real and believable. After watching a lot more British sci-fi, it reminds me of that.

Somebody made a flowchart for primer that actually works:

http://classicalconvert.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/primer_timeline.jpg

I've only seen primer once, and while I had no idea what was going on half the time, I liked what I saw. I need to study the flowchart and watch it again.

We watched the movie in my Time Travel class back in college and the flowchart DSettahr posted is pretty close to what we came up with, with a few little changes. It is an interesting movie and I would definitely recommend watching it a few times to really get everything out of it.

For another interesting time travel story, check out "All You Zombies" a short story by Robert Heinlein.

Time Travel class?

i prefer Dinosaurs! A Fun Filled Trip Back In Time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNeAINi9omo

I remember seeing that, it's alright.
But if you don't enjoy something don't blame yourself for not being smart enough.





Blame the educational system and your parents >_>

I could definitely blame my parents... cause of the whole home school thing. But then, I don't think I was supposed to be taught about time travel.

I just watched it and it was pretty cool!

I'm all for Stephen Hawkings time travel theory, where you can travel forward (and technically, they've made particles do so already) but not back.

Pfft, I'm time travelling forward right now, it's not hard!

Hehe, well, yeah that's true...

Why wouldn't anyone want to learn about time-travel? It's a very interesting, physics drenched and philosophical area of interest.

people don't want to think, heroin is funner apparently

Now you mention it I really could go for a nice bit of smack.

I spent almost as much time reading the graph up above as I spent watching the movie last night, but I understand it now.

Complex, really complex. And there appear to be a few holes here and there, but really good.

This movie is terrifying.

Like what?

(It's not that I don't believe you, but I'm looking to be amused :P)

I liked the movie, although I don't know exactly why. I guess the storyline is just a departure from most time-travel movies, and had a lot of detail on the "method" and rules of the system.

Why would education help you understand a movie like this? Really the only thing that could help would be watching a lot of (confusing) TV.

Ok, when Abe figures he needs to use his failsafe, and he goes back in time to the "beginning," which is actually Aaron's 2-hour delayed failsafe that he set up as a "decoy" so to speak, how does Aaron decide to use his failsafe and go back to before Abe with Aaron's failsafe ...IF... Abe leaves the previous timeline (the one that Abe wants to fix) before Aaron.

In other words, wouldn't Abe leaving first in the old timeline possibly change the possibility of Aaron going back in time (using his 'older' failsafe) to begin with? What if Aaron for that 1 hour after Abe leaves is living in a different timeline that doesn't involve himself leaving to his failsafe, even though his failsafe is set to arrive 1 hour before Abe's failsafe.

I dunno if that makes sense, but I think it's a kenundrum (sp).

I didn't understand the movie... and I don't understand anything you just said.

:p

This graph is meant to explain my point, and paraphrases a relevant portion of the plot, but does not explain the movie.

Basically there are 2 people, Person A and Person B. Person A goes through the red spot "later" back to 9AM. In the movie, Person B goes from the last black tick "1 hour after later" back to 8AM, the first black tick, and for lack of a better way of phrasing it "stops" person A (since they have a 1-hour head start on person A, who comes back to 9AM).

My problem is, wouldn't person A be able to stop person B from ever travelling back in time to before 9AM since person B can't travel back in time until awhile after person A leaves in the original timeline. Person A could have spent all of the time in between the middle red ticks (9AM to "Later") PLUS the final 1 hour ("1 hour after Later") to stop person B from ever traveling back in time.

But on the other hand, assuming person B DID get back in time to 8AM (he somehow has priority over changing the timeline), he could stop person A (who went back in time to 9AM) from stopping his previous time-self(previous-time person B) from going back in time and Person B could inherently control what happens in the timeline from that point.

OR...due to fate or whatever, maybe person A just didn't realize that person B was going back in time and forgot or neglected to stop him from going back in time to 8AM.

It's mind boggling and confusing. Deciding who has first-right to alter the timeline is a kenundrum, I think person A has the right since he traveled back in time first. It's not depicted this way in the movie, but I think this might technically be because person A didn't know what person B was up to, I don't remember exactly, or it might not have been clearly depicted.