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Hints of life found on Titan
2010-06-04, 9:39 AM #1
With all the sad and bad news going about constantly it's nice to find something refreshing. And although it'll probably be a few years off until we have the results, this is potentially world changing.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19005-hints-of-life-found-on-saturn-moon.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news
2010-06-04, 9:52 AM #2
Titan is beautiful, truly stunning. i was transfixed when i saw the images on "wonders of the solar system"

But i always thought if they found life on titan it would be in the upperatmosphere, where the chemical composition is more varied and the radiation from the sun could trigger reactions required for level.
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2010-06-04, 9:53 AM #3
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth,
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.
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2010-06-04, 10:32 AM #4
You could say that's a...titanic discovery
2010-06-04, 10:46 AM #5
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
;1084499']You could say that's a...titanic discovery


YEEEAAAHHH
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2010-06-04, 11:29 AM #6
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
;1084499']You could say that's a...titanic discovery


Originally posted by Michael MacFarlane:
YEEEAAAHHH


You could **** off.
2010-06-04, 12:42 PM #7
Arthur C Clarke was right dammit.
2010-06-04, 7:37 PM #8
"MY GOD.. ITS FULL OF STARS"
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2010-06-04, 9:14 PM #9
lol, has anyone really been far
even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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2010-06-04, 9:40 PM #10
Originally posted by Petmc.:
lol, has anyone really been far
even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


:carl:
2010-06-04, 9:57 PM #11
Originally posted by Temperamental:
With all the sad and bad news going about constantly it's nice to find something refreshing. And although it'll probably be a few years off until we have the results, this is potentially world changing.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19005-hints-of-life-found-on-saturn-moon.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news


And by "world changing" you mean interesting to people who work in the field, but almost certainly not useful at all.
2010-06-04, 10:03 PM #12
Originally posted by Petmc.:
lol, has anyone really been far
even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


And here's me without my Petmc to English translation book
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2010-06-04, 10:48 PM #13
what
2010-06-05, 12:43 AM #14
Originally posted by Deadman:
And here's me without my Petmc to English translation book


It's all English. You're just not cultured enough to understand the poetry.
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2010-06-05, 12:45 AM #15
If that's English, then I guess I've been speaking French all my life.
2010-06-05, 12:54 AM #16
Oui, vous stupide Canadienne
2010-06-05, 1:48 AM #17
:saddowns:
2010-06-05, 1:53 AM #18
Originally posted by Steven:
Oui, vous stupide Canadienne


Ta gueule, connard
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2010-06-06, 9:30 PM #19
Quote:
And by "world changing" you mean interesting to people who work in the field, but almost certainly not useful at all.


You must be seriously stupid if you don't think that discovering life on another planet would be a world changing event, and not just something that would be significant for those in the field. There is no other way to put it, sorry. I'm not trying to be a dick, and I know that right now it might not be that interesting, but if you honestly think that finding definitive life on another world wouldn't have an impact on humanity, you are, seriously, stupid in the most profound of ways.


Which is actually kind of sad since I usually tend to agree with your statements. Oh well, meh.

What is happening right now (which I hope you were iterating) is maybe perhaps interesting to those in the field only since it's not yet been proven to be life, but it's a sad thing if you are not interested the least in this subject. Space exploration is one of the most important things humanity can do, and discovering another life form on another planet is a HUGE thing. World changing. IN EVERY WAY. There is no possible way to deny that. No matter how sheltered you want to keep yourself from the reality of the universe.
2010-06-06, 9:36 PM #20
Sure, it'll be an amazing discovery, but it's not like we're suddenly going to have world peace and mars colonies the day after the announcement that we have discovered primitive life on another planet.
2010-06-06, 9:40 PM #21
Who said that (what Tibby said) was what would have to happen for it to be world changing?

Nobody said anything about flying to mars the day after, or any interplanetary trips. Nobody even said anything about talking to the alien life, whatever form it may be. All that I said was that it would change the world in huge ways. HUGE. You cannot deny that.

Seriously, if you can't figure out by yourself the multiple ways in which an event like NASA coming out and saying "Yes, we have discovered life. We are not alone in the universe" would be world changing, I can't help you and I really don't want to. Especially given the fact that you don't really have to look hard at all to see the impact it would have across the globe. And no, that also does not mean there would be world peace.
2010-06-06, 10:13 PM #22
Hooray we found some microbes.
Cool, thats real neat, proves a couple theories, call me when it can talk to us.
That's what 99% of the world will say.
2010-06-06, 10:14 PM #23
I don't think it would be world changing. If we found intelligent life, maybe.
2010-06-07, 12:16 AM #24
I rather hoped that finding life elsewhere, even simple lifeforms, might make more humans think about the bigger picture and quit being such ignorant small minded idiots. But no, actually, my faith in people is even less.
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2010-06-07, 1:43 AM #25
Originally posted by Vin:
I don't think it would be world changing. If we found intelligent life, maybe.


Considering the size (AND THE AGE!) of the universe, having found even the slightest hints of extraterrestrial life in our own tiny solar system would make the possibility of intelligent life even less of a stretch.

But!

Not only our individual lives, but even the lifespan of our planet (and our solar system) are but a fraction of a millisecond for the universe as a whole. So we'd have to be pretty darn lucky (or really, really change the way we co-exist with our fellow homo sapiens) to make some sort of a contact. Probably not for next few thousand years, and, who knows, maybe the creatures looking into the darkness of space from the Titan orbital stations would be to us as humans as Cro-Magnons are to us.
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2010-06-07, 5:00 AM #26
Quote:
I rather hoped that finding life elsewhere, even simple lifeforms, might make more humans think about the bigger picture and quit being such ignorant small minded idiots. But no, actually, my faith in people is even less.
What a stupid mindset. No matter what we find out there, Humans come first.
2010-06-07, 5:10 AM #27
It'll also piss fundamentalists off & it'll be hilarious watching all of them scramble to find reasons for god putting life on another planet. It's a shame that it won't be intelligent life though because that scramble would be much more entertaining.
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2010-06-07, 10:58 AM #28
Didn't we already find bacteria on meteorites?
http://able2know.org/topic/138716-1

Also, the possibility of life on other planets is not new. An artical from the same site Temperamental posted his thread opener.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn9943-top-10-controversial-pieces-of-evidence-for-extraterrestrial-life.html
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2010-06-07, 3:13 PM #29
Originally posted by JM:
What a stupid mindset. No matter what we find out there, Humans come first.


What's that got to do with what you quoted? He never said humans didn't come first...
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2010-06-08, 1:29 PM #30
Originally posted by Temperamental:
What is happening right now (which I hope you were iterating) is maybe perhaps interesting to those in the field only since it's not yet been proven to be life, but it's a sad thing if you are not interested the least in this subject. Space exploration is one of the most important things humanity can do, and discovering another life form on another planet is a HUGE thing. World changing. IN EVERY WAY. There is no possible way to deny that. No matter how sheltered you want to keep yourself from the reality of the universe.


This guy only cares if it's

A. Big enough to throw a spear
B. Can be turned into a cool shield


This will not be world changing. It will be a factoid future generations are forced to memorize for standardized testing.
Q. What was the year simple organisms were discovered outside of Earth?
A. No one will care.


You're still going to go to work. I'm still going to go to work. We'll all probably still go to work.

World changing might be the discovered of concrete evidence of intelligent life outside of the planet. Either living, or extinct.

PS, the most important thing the human race can do right now is stop all of the bull****. What good is space race if it's a more violent version of mario kart with space ships? The answer is it's pointless.
2010-06-08, 1:37 PM #31
(nvm)
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2010-06-08, 1:38 PM #32
Originally posted by Liberius Vir:
Didn't we already find bacteria on meteorites?
http://able2know.org/topic/138716-1

Wow, I didn't know that old research had been verified. That's very cool to know, thanks.
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2010-06-08, 2:26 PM #33
Originally posted by Temperamental:
You must be seriously stupid if you don't think that discovering life on another planet would be a world changing event, and not just something that would be significant for those in the field. There is no other way to put it, sorry. I'm not trying to be a dick, and I know that right now it might not be that interesting, but if you honestly think that finding definitive life on another world wouldn't have an impact on humanity, you are, seriously, stupid in the most profound of ways.



You didn't make an arguemnt at all. I would be willing to listen if you gave me a reason why it would be significant but you just said that I am very, very stupid if I don't believe your position.

It might very well be a big deal if it was advanced intelligent life, but that's not being discussed here. We're talking about microscopic simple life forms, which may or may not be of some value to some field. It's a case of "Yes that's interesting, but what would that imply?" And really it would imply nothing. We know that it's possible, but finding evidence of it doesn't really change anything. There's not really anything riding on it.

Just because some people think it would be neat and significant does not mean that it will bring about a huge new perspective that will cause mass enlightenment. People are selfish, lazy and apathetic. The knowledge that bacteria lives on a rock millions of miles away will have no bearing on that at all.

It has no tangible impact, and it's not going to change anyone's mind about anything because the only people who will consider it as big a deal as you do already closely share you views and ideals. I think it would be interesting, but I think it's silly to draw massive inspiration from what essentially amounts to a novelty.
2010-06-08, 2:31 PM #34
It would be very significant if the life that is found is not carbon-based.
2010-06-08, 2:33 PM #35
That would have the possibility of being extremely useful. Definitely worth the trip to go check it out.
2010-06-08, 4:37 PM #36
Originally posted by need help:
It would be very significant if the life that is found is not carbon-based.


Definitely this.
Hell the life just has to exist in a way slightly different to our understanding and it'll be huge.

Not to mention, there's just no way to see how much something like this can affect us, even the most minor discoveries can end up revolutionizing the scientific world, simply by making them think in a slightly different way, which of course has major repercussions on the rest of the world not long afterwards (or sometimes a while afterwards).
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2010-06-08, 4:44 PM #37
True, but that could be the case with just about anything.
2010-06-08, 5:13 PM #38
I think life outside of our planet, especially living in any kind of different way to us, is very likely to change the way (at least some) people think
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