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Yankees owner dies, age 80.
2010-07-13, 7:06 AM #1
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5375561
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2010-07-13, 8:10 AM #2
I hate to speak ill of the dead but he ruined baseball along with those ****head steroid abusers. He helped send salaries and thus ticket prices out of control. Numerous times you could say he bought championships. I think the FCI (Fan Cost Index) to attend a Yankees baseball game is $312. FCI = family of four buying like two hot dogs, two sodas, 1 beer, and like a baseball cap for the kids. Not going to be exactly that but ****! Your avg. family has to sacrifice, food, car payment, house just to go to a baseball game! Our national past time! Ridiculous!

Also,
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Steinbrenner never managed a game, as Ted Turner once did when he owned the Atlanta Braves, but he controlled everything else. When he thought the club's parking lot was too crowded, Steinbrenner stood on the pavement -- albeit behind a van, out of sight -- and had a guard personally check every driver's credential.

What the ****??!
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2010-07-13, 10:33 AM #3
I know I've repeated the fact before, but when the Yankees spend big money, it helps all the teams that suck ass (like my brewers, the pirates, etc). Due to MLB's incredible welfare system, there is great redistribution of wealth when the Yankees and Sox spend money.

Plus if you are really gonna use the argument that he BOUGHT championships, they would probably be winning the championship EVERY SINGLE YEAR because time and time again they usually have the absolutely most talented team in the league. They've won 1 championship in 10 years, so I really think the whole "purchasing" championships thing is pretty bogus.

And despite it, if you have the money, it's clear that Steinbrenner wants to win. I'm not gonna piss at a guy who happens to have a lot of money to go out and try and buy the absolute best players to win, especially when he spends money and it helps the loser teams.
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2010-07-13, 11:27 AM #4
Good. The man who ruined baseball is dead.
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2010-07-13, 11:31 AM #5
I'm actually sort of glad to see this sort of response.

It always pisses me off when people are total douche bags while they are alive, can be in a gang or something of the sort, or just a total ass in general. People hate them and have nothing but bad things to say, yet, when that person dies all of a sudden it's "Oh, they were so nice! It's so tragic!" "What a bad thing to happen to someone like that" etc. I'm all for never insulting the dead, but if you're a dick while you're alive and you don't rectify that before you pass on, well, you still die a dick.

Keep it real Massassi.
2010-07-13, 12:29 PM #6
You guys are just jealous of success. The fact is, he was part of a group of guys that bought a struggling franchise (for only $8.8 million, btw) and turned it into what is arguably the most successful franchise in American history.

I'm no Yankees fan myself (to be honest, I could care less about baseball in general), but I can't help but respect the man for what he accomplished.

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What the ****??!
What? That the man was so concerned that his patrons received an enjoyable, memorable experience that he was willing to take matters into his own hands in an albeit unorthodox manner to ensure that even their parking experience was acceptable?
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2010-07-13, 1:25 PM #7
Not that it will make up for the family's loss but, as is pointed out in this blog, the timing of his death is as good as it could have been unless the regime reinstates the Death Tax retroactively.
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2010-07-13, 1:42 PM #8
Somehow I doubt that an 'enjoyable, memorable experience' for fans was foremost in the mind of that man when it came to baseball games.
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2010-07-13, 2:16 PM #9
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Not that it will make up for the family's loss but, as is pointed out in this blog, the timing of his death is as good as it could have been unless the regime reinstates the Death Tax retroactively.

What the hell are you even talking about now?
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2010-07-13, 2:26 PM #10
Originally posted by dalf:
I hate to speak ill of the dead but he ruined baseball along with those ****head steroid abusers. He helped send salaries and thus ticket prices out of control. Numerous times you could say he bought championships. I think the FCI (Fan Cost Index) to attend a Yankees baseball game is $312. FCI = family of four buying like two hot dogs, two sodas, 1 beer, and like a baseball cap for the kids. Not going to be exactly that but ****! Your avg. family has to sacrifice, food, car payment, house just to go to a baseball game! Our national past time! Ridiculous!

Also,

What the ****??!


You ever heard of supply and demand?

Originally posted by Antony:
Good. The man who ruined baseball is dead.


**** off.



I am and always will be a Yankee hater. But this man was a hell of a business man who exploited a market like few people in the world have ever done. Bravo.
2010-07-13, 4:04 PM #11
The guy didn't even have a trophy wife? That must break some sort of law.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2010-07-13, 4:11 PM #12
Originally posted by dalf:
IHe helped send salaries and thus ticket prices out of control. Numerous times you could say he bought championships. I think the FCI (Fan Cost Index) to attend a Yankees baseball game is $312. FCI = family of four buying like two hot dogs, two sodas, 1 beer, and like a baseball cap for the kids. Not going to be exactly that but ****! Your avg. family has to sacrifice, food, car payment, house just to go to a baseball game! Our national past time! Ridiculous!


Bull****. That's simply the cost of watching a popular sports team.
2010-07-13, 4:20 PM #13
Originally posted by Antony:
What the hell are you even talking about now?


Wow, even if you disagree with me or the premise of the article, the first paragraph should have put everything into context for you. But, to sum it up for the lazy, he appears to be the fourth billionaire whose family will benefit from not having to pay the 55% Death..err..Estate Tax this year. The regime will allow the Death Tax to be reinstated next year so rich people's deaths this year are well timed unless the regime retroactively reinstates the Death Tax to Jan 1st of this year.
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2010-07-13, 5:03 PM #14
Originally posted by Antony:
Good. The man who ruined baseball is dead.


Bud Selig died too?
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2010-07-13, 5:04 PM #15
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2010-07-13, 9:14 PM #16
Originally posted by Avenger:
Bud Selig died too?


Ha! Well played.

Originally posted by Wookie06:
Wow, even if you disagree with me or the premise of the article, the first paragraph should have put everything into context for you. But, to sum it up for the lazy, he appears to be the fourth billionaire whose family will benefit from not having to pay the 55% Death..err..Estate Tax this year. The regime will allow the Death Tax to be reinstated next year so rich people's deaths this year are well timed unless the regime retroactively reinstates the Death Tax to Jan 1st of this year.


I think Antony's post was more of a "Who gives a flying ****?"

Originally posted by mscbuck:
And despite it, if you have the money, it's clear that Steinbrenner wants to win. I'm not gonna piss at a guy who happens to have a lot of money to go out and try and buy the absolute best players to win, especially when he spends money and it helps the loser teams.


Got to agree with this sentiment. If I'm rooting for a team, I'd rather it be owned by a guy like Steinbrenner than someone like (because I don't know enough baseball, going to use football team owners here) Bill Bidwell or Mike Brown.
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2010-07-13, 9:55 PM #17
Originally posted by Michael MacFarlane:
I think Antony's post was more of a "Who gives a flying ****?"

This is accurate.
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2010-07-13, 11:44 PM #18
Originally posted by Michael MacFarlane:
I think Antony's post was more of a "Who gives a flying ****?"


Well, it seemed on topic to me although I would apply your interpretation to the thread in general.
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2010-07-14, 1:40 AM #19
Originally posted by IRG SithLord:
Bull****. That's simply the cost of watching a popular sports team.

Why should it cost more to see a game just because a cetain team is playing (especialy if the team that is driving the price up is not the team that you support). I can understand a finals game ticket being worth more, and a ticket in a more fancy stadium going for more, but not just because a certain team is playing.
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2010-07-14, 5:18 AM #20
umm. because that team has the best talent. If you go to a restaurant that employs the top chefs in the world, wouldn't you expect to pay more than if you went to Denny's?

So why not pay more when you go to a baseball game that features the best players in the world?
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2010-07-14, 5:30 AM #21
That analogy doesn't quite work seeing as Baseball would basically be like a large local chain. The top chefs in the world would be from all over place while you're only one of about two countries that play the damn sport. :P
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2010-07-14, 8:21 AM #22
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
umm. because that team has the best talent. If you go to a restaurant that employs the top chefs in the world, wouldn't you expect to pay more than if you went to Denny's?

So why not pay more when you go to a baseball game that features the best players in the world?

Because baseball is a GAME and everyone should be able to go to a baseball GAME and not the upper-middle class because they can afford the insane ticket prices. You, like George, are treating baseball as a business.
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2010-07-14, 9:37 AM #23
Sran likes Denny's an awful lot. or at least he talks about it a lot.
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2010-07-14, 10:46 AM #24
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
umm. because that team has the best talent. If you go to a restaurant that employs the top chefs in the world, wouldn't you expect to pay more than if you went to Denny's?

So why not pay more when you go to a baseball game that features the best players in the world?


Originally posted by dalf:
Because baseball is a GAME and everyone should be able to go to a baseball GAME and not the upper-middle class because they can afford the insane ticket prices. You, like George, are treating baseball as a business.


Tickets to yankee stadium are ridiculous. It's not about how good the team is, it's because they built a new stadium and then the economy collapsed. Dalf is right, the prices aren't just about the players. It's a business.

I'm a Yankees fan, but I can't afford going to a ****ing game. I mean at least our stadium isn't named after a corporation and the architecture is cool, but $150 for a wednesday afternoon game? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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2010-07-14, 11:25 AM #25
If you want to cheaply enjoy the pure game that is baseball free from the misconception that the MLB is a business, go watch a little league game, those are free. -_- Or watch it on TV.
2010-07-14, 11:31 AM #26
I'd like to go to an Indians game sometime, but the management of the team seems to despise the entire fanbase, so I refuse.
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2010-07-14, 11:37 AM #27
Does Oceanside have a minor league team? We have two within 15 minutes of my place (one is about 5 minutes away). Tickets are $6. It's a good, cheap, relatively fun way to spend a boring summer night.
2010-07-14, 1:48 PM #28
I would think for as much as it costs to go to a game the seats would be at least comfortable enough to sleep in for the boring parts (mostly the 1st through 9th innings).
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2010-07-14, 2:31 PM #29
hahah!!
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2010-07-14, 3:08 PM #30
Originally posted by dalf:
You, like everyone, are treating baseball as a business.


Fixed.

And welcome to the world of sports. It's entertainment and is no different from any other crazily priced entertainment.
2010-07-15, 12:11 AM #31
Originally posted by IRG SithLord:
Fixed.

And welcome to the world of sports. It's entertainment and is no different from any other crazily priced entertainment.


Well its different in that it is incredibly boring to watch.
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2010-07-15, 4:27 AM #32
it's not any more boring to watch than golf.


To each his own. :)
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