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2010-07-28, 10:56 AM #1
hello all, just looking for a bit of help with my masters dissertation

so I'm trying to say something along the lines of:
"Using the UNPD figures for urban population that were given for 5-year intervals, equal incremental increases were calculated to give annual estimates for total urban population"

I realise that sentence sounds rubbish, and I'm trying to reword it, but I'm really struggling to think what to put instead of "equal incremental increases". I'm sure there must be a better maths-y way of saying that. any ideas?
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2010-07-28, 11:04 AM #2
equal increments
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2010-07-28, 11:15 AM #3
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2010-07-28, 11:22 AM #4
UNDP figures for urban population were used to calculate equal incremental increases in order to give annual estimates for total urban population.
2010-07-28, 11:25 AM #5
passive voice should be gotten rid of
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2010-07-28, 11:25 AM #6
Good news everyone! Use constant instead of equal?

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2010-07-28, 11:35 AM #7
In this context, "constant incremental increases" would cause the reader to think "continual" increases or "unending" increases rather than "equal" increases.
2010-07-28, 11:44 AM #8
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2010-07-28, 12:52 PM #9
Originally posted by Steven:
In this context, "constant incremental increases" would cause the reader to think "continual" increases or "unending" increases rather than "equal" increases.


this was my thinking.

Emon: I really feel like I need increase in there somewhere, although I realise that equal increments does obviously sound better!
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2010-07-28, 1:07 PM #10
incremental increases is redundantly redundant!
2010-07-28, 1:08 PM #11
Originally posted by maevie:
hello all, just looking for a bit of help with my masters dissertation

so I'm trying to say something along the lines of:
"Using the UNPD figures for urban population that were given for 5-year intervals, equal incremental increases were calculated to give annual estimates for total urban population"

I realise that sentence sounds rubbish, and I'm trying to reword it, but I'm really struggling to think what to put instead of "equal incremental increases". I'm sure there must be a better maths-y way of saying that. any ideas?


"Using the UNPD figures for urban population over 5-year intervals, [I/we] produced annual estimates for total urban population by calculating uniform incremental increases."

You avoid the passive voice, which might be viewed as a symptom of trying to pad out your sentences. Without better understanding of the context I can't really suggest a better way of doing the incremental increases stuff. Another thing I removed was 'that were given' because the fact that you have the data implies that it came from somewhere.
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2010-07-28, 1:28 PM #12
We were forced to write in the passive voice for our course. I hated it.
2010-07-29, 1:41 AM #13
It's a stylistic choice, and some (admittedly archaic) institutions do still prefer the passive voice. It's seen as representative of objectivity, but I agree that it often clumsy and difficult to construct a readable sentence in the passive voice.

Of course, sometimes the passive voice is entirely appropriate - if you're describing the work of someone else, and the previous sentence has already used a third person personal pronoun.
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2010-07-29, 1:56 AM #14
I find academic papers that avoid the passive voice to be a lot easier to read, I hate it when the good information is tied up in word soup.
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2010-07-29, 2:55 AM #15
thanks for the advice guys. I think the passive voice thing is definitely an issue throughout my whole paper, but I really struggle not to fall back on using first person pronouns, which I think is frowned upon more (bearing in mind that I'm a student trying to impress my supervisor, not a researcher publishing new work)

I have a new question: is there some form of non-breaking space or similar that means the space doesn't count towards your word count? My supervisor has told me that I need to separate all my figures and units (including % and degrees, eesh!), so it's having a pretty big effect on my word count. Nbsp doesn't change it, is there another option?
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2010-07-29, 2:56 AM #16
oh, and I'm gonna go with uniform, much better word, thanks Detty!
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2010-07-29, 3:27 AM #17
use a dash and set the colour to white ^^
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2010-07-29, 3:28 AM #18
Originally posted by Detty:
I find academic papers that avoid the passive voice to be a lot easier to read, I hate it when the good information is tied up in word soup.


Aye. Verbiage is bad.
2010-07-29, 5:48 AM #19
Incremental increases, I think as Steven said, implies that the increments are increasing. It describes an acceleration, but I don't think that was your intent.
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