Abstract: "Carbohydrate-restricted diets (CRD) significantly decrease body weight and independently improve plasma triglycerides (TG) and HDL cholesterol (HDL-C). Increasing intake of dietary cholesterol from eggs in the context of a low-fat diet maintains the LDL cholesterol (LDL-C)/HDL-C for both hyper- and hypo-responders to dietary cholesterol. In this study, 28 overweight/obese male subjects (BMI ¼ 25–37 kg/m2) aged 40–70 y were recruited to evaluate the contribution of dietary cholesterol from eggs in a CRD. Subjects were counseled to consume a CRD (10–15% energy from carbohydrate) and they were randomly allocated to the EGG group [intake of 3 eggs per day (640 mg/d additional dietary cholesterol)] or SUB group [equivalent amount of egg substitute (0 dietary cholesterol) per day]. Energy intake decreased in both groups from 10,243 6 4040 to 7968 6 2401 kJ (P , 0.05) compared with baseline. All subjects irrespective of their assigned group had reduced body weight and waist circumference (P , 0.0001). Similarly, the plasma TG concentration was reduced from 1.34 6 0.66 to 0.83 6 0.30 mmol/L after 12 wk (P , 0.001) in all subjects. The plasma LDL-C concentration, as well as the LDL-C:HDL-C ratio, did not change during the intervention. In contrast, plasma HDL-C concentration increased in the EGG group from 1.23 6 0.39 to 1.47 6 0.38 mmol/L (P , 0.01), whereas HDL-C did not change in the SUB group. Plasma glucose concentrations in fasting subjects did not change. Eighteen subjects were classified as having the metabolic syndrome (MetS) at the beginning of the study, whereas 3 subjects had that classification at the end. These results suggest that including eggs in a CRD results in increased HDL-C while decreasing the risk factors associated with MetS."

(source: http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/reprint/138/2/272)

TL;DR: Carbohydrate restricted diets and cholesterol from eggs fixes coronary heart disease, coronary artery disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, "high" cholesterol, etc.

(if you're on reddit, upvote please: http://www.reddit.com/r/Health/comments/cz5ug/carbohydraterestricted_diets_and_increasing/)

cool bonus news, 'dud! Thanks for postin' it up

So the key to increasing HDL-C is to eat more HDL-C?

I AM SHOCKED.

I don't have time to read it right now, but I will make one very important point: One study does NOT prove something.

That being said, I've been on/off a low carb diet the past 2 months (difficult with free food at work...) and I've lost about 25 lbs with no exercise. Mostly I think it's from huge caloric restriction. My old diet (eat whatever whenever) probably put me at 3000 calories. I'm probably half that now. I have a smaller appetite and eat much less.

i tried a high carb diet for the sake of money and weight.

pasta, bread, with some lentils for protien. Very little else. I ended up farting every 5 seconds and ****ting blood for about a month.

Now its all about the fish, chicken, and vegetables. (if i had money, which i dont)

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That's a fairly small sample size, doesn't say how they randomised and it's single blinded (without detail of the method). I'm afraid I would have to question any conclusion as strong as "Carbohydrate restricted diets and cholesterol from eggs fixes coronary heart disease". While the egg is the control here, you also still to consider the placebo effect and the hawthorne effect (in this case the participants *may* have decided it was a good time to improve their diet because of the intervention and the fact they knew they were being monitored).

Not that it's not a worthwhile study but we can observe similar positive results in papers on homoeopathy and acupuncture where important methodological details are missing.

What is the Jadad score for this paper?

Definitely true, and with a bit of research I could find and post other research that proves the same thing (that all use SCIENCE as opposed to the over popular CONJECTURE that people who say otherwise tend to use...)

No, you can find another study that supports the same theories. You won't find anything proven because science can never prove anything. I can find as many studies that suggest otherwise and are well reviewed and sound (see: the past 40 years of nutritional science), but that doesn't make it correct.


I don't think you have anywhere near enough medical expertise, or even an understanding of science in general to make this claim.

I'm not bashing you here... neither do I... but such a strong claim really isn't appropriate.

My bad, you are correct. Wrong word.



I think the strong claim was against articles that flat out don't have any scientific basis whatsoever, or against articles that reference studies/scientific theories that were definitively proved wrong 20 years ago.

Oh I see what you mean. I thought you were saying, "unlike those things I disagree with that have no scientific basis." which sounds an awful lot like "I'm discrediting this because I don't agree with it"

Nah, I'm talking more about things like this:

Not news for healthy people.

The secret is not cutting out carbohydrates. It's getting bang for your buck when it comes to carbs. Nutrient rich and carbohydrate sources that are not super starchy and full of fructose.

Greens, good root vegetables. MEAT. A good balance of omega 3-6 from healthy fats etc. etc. etc.

Really, move away from heavy processing (like what happens to most grains and store bought dairy, and all packaged foods) and towards natural food sources. Not organic brand necessarily, just unprocessed.

And smoke natural tobacco!

See here.

What the heck is a fake egg? Does such a thing really exist?

Yeah, my dad uses one called egg beaters. Think the margarine of the egg world.

Creepy.

My sister is allergic to eggs and can't eat Egg Beaters. I think it's made of just egg yolks or something.

It's actually the opposite (99% egg white).

Eat less, move more.

Our bodies are too efficient. Exercise does amazingly little.. Cardio in particular. The best you can do on the exercise front is increase your base metabolism by adding muscle.

It's not so simple as calorie arithmetic.

It should be eat more (good things), move more (outside).

I've heard this before and from a vastly more realiable source (so in other words, one with at least a shred of credibility) so I suppose it might be true...but my anecdotal evidence still says "amazingly little" seems hard to believe.

I think JM just means that it does less than you'd think. Cardio is good for you in many other ways so you should probably do it, but it isn't the best way to lose weight.

Oh, yeah I know fixing one's diet is the fastest way to lose weight.

Simplified solution: Eat real food. Lift heavy. Get fit.

Or, what I tried last week after eating a bunch of plums I picked that had worms in them:

EAT WORMS. GET RIPPED. CLOSE CASKET.

Happydud has it.

Low calorie high protein diet + weight training = Massive weight loss.

You can't keep it up long though.

I'm stuffing pasta into my mouth as I read this. Oh shiii***