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Looking at wiki options
2010-09-27, 4:07 PM #1
So I'm looking at new options for what will hopefully become a wiki of sorts for the Never-ending Story stuff as my initial option, while very nice, was too demanding and honestly likely more than I'll ever need. The wiki I have in mind needs to at least be able to organize content such as 'timeline' for story posts, character bios, settings, etc., be aesthetically customizable on the output side, and easy to use for any idiot like myself. I'm leaning towards tiki wiki or wikkawiki, and leaning against mediawiki, so if you'll have to be extra persuasive if you want me to steer clear of the first two or embrace the latter one.

3F Wiki
[url]www.3fwiki.com[/url]

Drupal Wiki
[url]www.drupal-wiki.com[/url]

Genius Wiki
[url]www.geniuswiki.com[/url]

Media Wiki
[url]www.mediawiki.org[/url]

Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware
[url]www.tiki.org[/url]

WikkaWiki
[url]www.wikkawiki.org[/url]

Do not underestimate my ignorance -- please keep this in mind if you wish to persuade me with your opinion. (Poll to appear soon if not already there)
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2010-09-27, 5:56 PM #2
We use Jive for client-facing wiki documentation and MediaWiki for internal development documentation. No complaints about MediaWiki. Plenty about Jive.
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2010-09-27, 6:36 PM #3
The benefit of Mediawiki is your average user will be more comfortable with it, since it's the same thing Wikipedia uses.

The downside is the massive bloat.
2010-09-28, 5:38 AM #4
CM: I can't say I'm convinced that other wikis can't simulate at least the majority of the familiarity with Wikipedia without being bloated and cookie-cutter clunky and the like.

Wolfy: Guess I won't be using Jive. ;) Any complaints though that might crop up in some of these other options as well that you may be aware of or could foresee?
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2010-09-28, 6:59 AM #5
Originally posted by Gebohq:
CM: I can't say I'm convinced that other wikis can't simulate at least the majority of the familiarity with Wikipedia without being bloated and cookie-cutter clunky and the like.


The thing is, it doesn't just edit like WIkipedia, it looks like Wikipedia by default. People will know where things are and how to browse it. The average person can be rather stupid.
2010-09-28, 7:24 AM #6
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
The thing is, it doesn't just edit like WIkipedia, it looks like Wikipedia by default. People will know where things are and how to browse it. The average person can be rather stupid.

Actually, that's what I meant. I figured most other wikis can be structured to look like Wikipedia easier than to make its editing feel like Wikipedia's. I'm not terribly concerned with "the average user" apart from just being able to navigate the content, though, since for the foreseeable future, I doubt it'll be edited (or even viewed) by many others apart from myself and a few other NeS writers. It's going to be a slow process regardless, as this is a very long-term project.
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2010-09-28, 6:36 PM #7
I also want to know why Kroko voted for all of them.
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2010-09-28, 6:43 PM #8
I wouldn't call MediaWiki bloated. Every built-in feature has a place, and anything wiki-specific is either an optional extension or it's implemented with templates.

I've set up MediaWiki a half dozen times. It's a 10 minute job, tops.
2010-09-28, 7:11 PM #9
Originally posted by Jon`C:
I wouldn't call MediaWiki bloated. Every built-in feature has a place, and anything wiki-specific is either an optional extension or it's implemented with templates.

I've set up MediaWiki a half dozen times. It's a 10 minute job, tops.


Maybe it's just a matter of feature bloat, or whatever, but they do have a serious toll on server CPU.

It's not hard to set up MediaWiki though, no. It's far more difficult to add templates and content you need to make it useful :P
2010-09-28, 7:23 PM #10
Originally posted by Gebohq:
I also want to know why Kroko voted for all of them.


He's ****ing nuts.
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2010-09-29, 6:14 AM #11
Indeed, Tracer. Indeed.

Perhaps I should just ask which I should pick between TikiWiki and Wikkawiki, or maybe flip a coin...
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2010-09-29, 6:27 AM #12
Set them both up and choose which one you like better
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2010-09-29, 7:26 AM #13
But that would make too much sense, zan. :ninja:
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2010-09-29, 7:50 AM #14
Just by glancing at the two you have suggested, I think I would prefer Wikkawiki. But I would give drupal a shot too
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