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Star Wars is the worst place to live.
2010-10-13, 9:08 PM #1
(Pre-note, this isn't at all serious, but feel free to spergily argue any points)

The Star Wars universe is worse then even the Warhammer universe to live in, here's why:
1. Everyone is always at war with everyone else, and because of this planets sometimes explode (Good luck figuring out which planets!)
2. Heroes act completely differently at times, wars change completely before they even end. Meaning that if you somehow find a nice existence, expect it to change completely as soon as the next writer starts.
3. Most of the galaxy is treated by dirt by the Jedi, and then the Empire, and then the Republic.
4. Jedi will steal your children and raise them in a secluded temple to think they are better then everyone else, and then they get slaughtered because the higher ups figured that would go on forever.
5. Civilians die en-masse all the time, they are worthless. they die by the planetload even when the galaxy is at "peace"
5. There are no gays, this is offical canon.
6. Low midichlorian count? You are worthless. you can't do anything for anyone at all.
7. High midichlorian count? You now only exist as either evil or good, there is no in between. Also anything you ever accomplish wasn't your doing, it was "The Force"
8. Not human? You will die.
2010-10-13, 9:22 PM #2
It's really got to suck for the older Skywalker dude... his whole life was pretty much wrecked by that jerk Palpatine. Then he had to spend the next 20 years pretty much buying his time waiting on the right moment to get payback.
>>untie shoes
2010-10-13, 9:30 PM #3
I bet his wang got burned off too, so it was a really dull 20 years.
2010-10-13, 9:32 PM #4
Not to mention he's basically an addict. He really wants to do good things... but he just can't keep from doing bad things.
>>untie shoes
2010-10-14, 1:06 AM #5
Originally posted by Tibby:
5. There are no gays, this is offical canon.


Nope. Mandalorians get to be gay.
My blawgh.
2010-10-14, 1:48 AM #6
G-Canon says their are no gays, nice try Karen!
2010-10-14, 2:48 AM #7
Originally posted by Tibby:
G-Canon says their are no gays


Huh. So the GFFA is like Iran.

Where did Lucas say this?
2010-10-14, 5:09 AM #8
The stories aren't about the average dumb****s who live on one planet their whole lives. For the vast majority of people in the universe, it's perfectly fine. They get up and go to work and come home and watch holovision and go to sleep, just like everyone else, no matter which faction is in control at the moment.

The rest of the list is just a load of croc.
2010-10-14, 5:45 AM #9
Originally posted by JM:
The stories aren't about the average dumb****s who live on one planet their whole lives. For the vast majority of people in the universe, it's perfectly fine.


What about when the Vong showed up?

Also, how many times now has Coruscant been ravaged by war or the site of a major battle? And it's supposed to be the center of galactic civilization?
2010-10-14, 5:49 AM #10
Originally posted by Tibby:
5. There are no gays, this is offical canon.

this is a bad thing?
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2010-10-14, 6:03 AM #11
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
this is a bad thing?


It would be for you, because the navy wouldn't exist.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2010-10-14, 6:20 AM #12
Originally posted by Tibby:
G-Canon says their are no gays, nice try Karen!


Who are the 'their'? I'm not familiar with that species.
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2010-10-14, 8:01 AM #13
I want to know why Star Wars, Star Trek, Farscape, SG-1, Battlestar and any other futuristic movie universe have all failed to invent security cameras. Obi Wan couldn't have shut down the tractor beams, this week's unwanted ship-mate would be on CCTV before it could sabotage Moya, and pretty much no people would go "missing" at critical moments on the bridge.
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2010-10-14, 8:02 AM #14
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
this is a bad thing?


Wow, **** you buddy.
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2010-10-14, 8:16 AM #15
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
this is a bad thing?


Troll post is troll post.
2010-10-14, 8:26 AM #16
Originally posted by Phantom-Seraph:
Nope. Mandalorians get to be gay.


Also Juhani in KotOR.
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2010-10-14, 9:14 AM #17
Originally posted by JediKirby:
I want to know why Star Wars, Star Trek, Farscape, SG-1, Battlestar and any other futuristic movie universe have all failed to invent security cameras. Obi Wan couldn't have shut down the tractor beams, this week's unwanted ship-mate would be on CCTV before it could sabotage Moya, and pretty much no people would go "missing" at critical moments on the bridge.


They do have security cameras in Star Wars. There were a couple in the detention block, actually. But they're not all over the death star, because seriously, it's a huge place. Besides, the Imperials refused to believe anyone would actually try to break in in the first place.
2010-10-14, 10:49 AM #18
Originally posted by Michael MacFarlane:
Also Juhani in KotOR.


Also this:
[http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/528499836_iYbRa-L-2.jpg]

;)
My blawgh.
2010-10-14, 11:30 AM #19
Originally posted by JM:
The stories aren't about the average dumb****s who live on one planet their whole lives. For the vast majority of people in the universe, it's perfectly fine. They get up and go to work and come home and watch holovision and go to sleep, just like everyone else, no matter which faction is in control at the moment.

The rest of the list is just a load of croc.

Except for the people on Alderaan.
Or Coruscaunt when the Vong came, or during the Imperial resurgence.
Or any non-humans unlucky enough to be made a slave of.
Anyone in that 1/3rd of the galaxy that the vong killed.
Anyone caught in the crossfire of any of the bajillion non-stop wars that have been raging since the clone wars.
2010-10-14, 12:38 PM #20
Originally posted by Tibby:
G-Canon says their are no gays, nice try Karen!


i think ziro the hutt would like to have a word...
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2010-10-14, 1:10 PM #21
Hutts are kinda sexually ambiguous.
2010-10-14, 1:13 PM #22
well for being sexually ambiguous he sure is GAYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!

er... i mean FABULOUSSSSSSS!
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2010-10-14, 1:19 PM #23
You can't be gay if your species doesn't have males!
E: or females
2010-10-14, 2:16 PM #24
I suppose technically your right... But that is one RAGING queen of a hermaphrodite!!!
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2010-10-14, 4:03 PM #25
Ziro's a tad androgynous, I'll give you that.
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2010-10-14, 4:16 PM #26
Originally posted by JediKirby:
Wow, **** you buddy.


No, think about it logically, instead of emotionally. If no one was gay, then no one would care that no one was gay. It's not like there would be people sitting around feeling unfulfilled, because they wouldn't even have a concept of homosexuality. This would make everything a lot simpler. There'd be no homosexual-based hate crimes or discrimination. There'd be no awkward moments from being hit on by someone of a different orientation. We'd have no need to make extra effort to be PC so as not to alienate anyone. I'm sure if I thought about it more, I could think of more benefits, but dinner's ready. :)

As a challenge, can you think of any specific advantages to a social community having homosexuality as opposed to not having it?
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

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2010-10-14, 4:25 PM #27
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
No, think about it logically, instead of emotionally. If no one was black, then no one would care that no one was black. It's not like there would be people sitting around feeling unfulfilled, because they wouldn't even have a concept of being black. This would make everything a lot simpler. There'd be no black-based hate crimes or discrimination. There'd be no awkward moments from being hit on by someone of a different race. We'd have no need to make extra effort to be PC so as not to alienate anyone. I'm sure if I thought about it more, I could think of more benefits, but dinner's ready. :)

As a challenge, can you think of any specific advantages to a social community having black people as opposed to not having them?

Thank you. You continue to confirm that you are a bigoted piece of ****.

I have edited your post in the quote to fully display the kind of dangerous ignorance and intolerance you're exhibiting here.
>>untie shoes
2010-10-14, 4:27 PM #28
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
As a challenge, can you think of any specific advantages to a social community having homosexuality as opposed to not having it?


Limits population growth.


Responding to your larger point: one doesn't evaluate the real world political ramifications of a narrative decision based on its in-universe coherence. We tell stories to reflect on the real world: saying "no one's gay in star wars" doesn't happen because it makes the narrative nicer; it happens because GL wants to pretend no one's gay in real life.
2010-10-14, 4:37 PM #29
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
No, think about it logically, instead of emotionally. If no one was gay, then no one would care that no one was gay. It's not like there would be people sitting around feeling unfulfilled, because they wouldn't even have a concept of homosexuality. This would make everything a lot simpler. There'd be no homosexual-based hate crimes or discrimination. There'd be no awkward moments from being hit on by someone of a different orientation. We'd have no need to make extra effort to be PC so as not to alienate anyone. I'm sure if I thought about it more, I could think of more benefits, but dinner's ready. :)

As a challenge, can you think of any specific advantages to a social community having homosexuality as opposed to not having it?

Well that way we'd have a navy.

Also, what you're essentially saying is that the world would be a much better place if there were no minorities whatsoever. Well done. :carl:
nope.
2010-10-14, 4:44 PM #30
Quote:
As a challenge, can you think of any specific advantages to a social community having homosexuality as opposed to not having it?


On the other hand... if everyone was gay, you'd have all the same effects you described, plus all parenthoods would be planned.
"Guns don't kill people, I kill people."
2010-10-14, 4:59 PM #31
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
No, think about it logically, instead of emotionally. If no one was gay, then no one would care that no one was gay. It's not like there would be people sitting around feeling unfulfilled, because they wouldn't even have a concept of homosexuality. This would make everything a lot simpler. There'd be no homosexual-based hate crimes or discrimination. There'd be no awkward moments from being hit on by someone of a different orientation. We'd have no need to make extra effort to be PC so as not to alienate anyone. I'm sure if I thought about it more, I could think of more benefits, but dinner's ready. :)

As a challenge, can you think of any specific advantages to a social community having homosexuality as opposed to not having it?


I really hope this is one of those times you are trying to be "funny". Because god damn.
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2010-10-14, 4:59 PM #32
He'll claim that after two pages of looking like a tool.
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2010-10-14, 5:11 PM #33
Originally posted by Vornskr:
Limits population growth.
Fair enough. :)


Quote:
We tell stories to reflect on the real world:
You're looking into this too far. At it's most basic, we tell stories to entertain. Whether it reflects on the real world or not is irrelevant.

Quote:
saying "no one's gay in star wars" doesn't happen because it makes the narrative nicer; it happens because GL wants to pretend no one's gay in real life.
I doubt that's true. I think it's much more likely that GL just doesn't want to get caught up in the issue of homosexuality. He just wants to tell a story. What you're saying could be true, but it's my opinion that you're making mountains out of mole hills.

Originally posted by Baconfish:
Well that way we'd have a navy.
hurr. N/A.

Quote:
Also, what you're essentially saying is that the world would be a much better place if there were no minorities whatsoever. Well done.
Note, I didn't say "much better", or even "better" once in my whole post. Please don't put words in my mouth (err on my keyboard?). All I said was more simple. And yes, if there were no minorities, the world would be a much more simple place. I completely agree that we'd miss out on a lot of things that come with diversity, but we wouldn't know we were missing out on them, and ignorance is bliss.

Originally posted by KOP_Snake:
On the other hand... if everyone was gay, you'd have all the same effects you described, plus all parenthoods would be planned.
Except we'd have gone extinct long before we developed the technology to procreate asexually. Also, unplanned pregnancies are not always a bad thing, though I agree they sometimes (or maybe even often) are.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2010-10-14, 5:13 PM #34
Originally posted by llibja:
I really hope this is one of those times you are trying to be "funny". Because god damn.

Not trying to be funny this time.. But I am arguing for the sake of arguing. (See my above post in response to Baconfish too, cause I'm pretty sure you guys are reading into what I said waaaay too much, (and very likely misunderstanding what I'm saying, or missing the point).
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2010-10-14, 5:19 PM #35
Your argument is retarded and it makes you sound like a total bigot.
>>untie shoes
2010-10-14, 5:32 PM #36
It doesn't really matter if you didn't say the word better or not, it's the implication. :P
nope.
2010-10-14, 5:50 PM #37
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
(and very likely misunderstanding what I'm saying, or missing the point).

You aren't that smart. You're not "above average," you are in fact well below it. Because you're so stupid, you're robbed of the ability to realize you're stupid.

We've been over this before.
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2010-10-14, 5:53 PM #38
Originally posted by Baconfish:
It doesn't really matter if you didn't say the word better or not, it's the implication. :P

That could be implied, but I was specifically careful to *not* make the claim that it would be "better," only less complicated.

My claim is only that it is not "better" that homosexuality exists.

(also, I'm gonna ignore all the posts that are thinly-veiled (or not veiled at all) personal attacks, because I'm not going to stoop to that level.)
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.

Lassev: I guess there was something captivating in savagery, because I liked it.
2010-10-14, 5:56 PM #39
Less complicated, and by way of that, better. Unless you're trying to say that making life more complicated makes it better, and I find it very hard to believe that a person of your intellect could possibly want life to be more complex.
>>untie shoes
2010-10-14, 5:57 PM #40
There are no Jews, this is official canon.

Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
this is a bad thing?


hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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