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the end of the end of the Never-ending Story
2011-01-17, 7:46 AM #1
Please read the final story post in the Never-ending Story and the post linked at the end of it. Thank you:

http://forums.massassi.net/vb3/showthread.php?p=1118588#post1118588
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2011-01-17, 7:51 AM #2
Boggle. It is truly the end of an era.
Also, I can kill you with my brain.
2011-01-17, 8:01 AM #3
Note that I intend to talk to Gebohq in great lengths about this, but here's my view on this:

Absolutely the worst decision ever.

1. It's not Gebohq's story to end. It is a story that everyone who has ever posted owns a piece of. For one person to have the life/death control over the entire story is complete bull****. Yes, Gebohq worked harder than anyone else to keep it alive, but that is irrelevant to the spirit of the NeS he helped create.
2. Why does it even need an ending? It's already had one, you could argue. You could even argue it has had numerous endings. But that's the point, it is the NEVER-ENDING STORY. If writers run out of interest, this is not the type of story you take out back and shoot. I think it completely loses the novelty and spirit of the NeS to simply say "well I give up, no one is interested now, so no more posts".
3. There wasn't even a discussion about this, at least nothing to myself. I think that's wholly selfish. If Gebohq didn't feel like maintaining the NeS anymore, that's one thing. We all have lives, we all get busy. But that's no reason to just kill it off.
4. I always understood that Gebohq wanted to keep finding writers and keep interest up for the story. It's notable and I apologize that I have been so annoyed and angered by this action of his. The failure to find new writers is saddening, but let the silence do the writing. Not some writer.
5. Long story short, by doing this, it feels as if Gebohq has killed the NeS. It has not ended, it has been murdered.

Anyway, I really, really had to get that off my chest. I'll talk to Gebohq about it later, probably tomorrow when he's coherent and not working. Maybe by then I won't be near-vulgarity level of angry over this.
2011-01-17, 8:01 AM #4
Dang, I have to say I didn't expect this!

Such an amazing effort you people have put on that thread, kudos to you. Maybe I'll get around reading it someday :)

(also more NeSi plz)
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2011-01-17, 8:10 AM #5
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Gebohq has killed the NeS.


I think 'euthanized' is more apt here.
2011-01-17, 8:40 AM #6
...did Geb just drunkpost?
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2011-01-17, 8:50 AM #7
Yeah wow, this is pretty damn arrogant.

whaaa I don't have time to micromanage the NES anymore
*s***s all over threads*
*locks them*

Hey, here's an idea: maybe people don't post on the NES because they don't want to deal with a little despot?
2011-01-17, 9:09 AM #8
I think that's going a bit (okay, way) too far, Jon`C. Up until this point, Gebohq was never controlling of the NeS, except in situations where it absolutely required it (like organizing the end of the original thread, which at the time was required). Otherwise he basically just promoted it and encouraged people to write. Which was great.

It's only this move that I feel was outrageous.
2011-01-17, 9:33 AM #9
What's the never ending story?

-This isn't a joke, though that would be funny, this is literally the first time in 10 years I've ever heard of this.
2011-01-17, 9:37 AM #10
CM has every right to be outraged. He has brought up something I failed to wholly consider: the NeS is a collaborative effort. I wrote it in my own post, yet I did not discuss this with the other active members of the community first.

To that end, I will be doing what I can to organize some means to talk about this as a group. CM, I will still talk about this with you personally, likely tomorrow, if you wish, but this is something that ultimately needs to be discussed with as much of the community as possible at the same time.

FGR: Thank you for expressing an interest in NeSi! I'm still looking into how to bring this back.
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2011-01-17, 9:46 AM #11
Announcing the NES is closing as a recruitment tactic seems a bit unwholesome..
Also, I can kill you with my brain.
2011-01-17, 10:15 AM #12
or perhaps the most clever idea ever!
free(jin);
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2011-01-17, 10:41 AM #13
Nooooo! I was trying to catch up reading it!

No, seriously, I was. I could only hack at it a couple posts at a time between job searching, reading the books my friends are pawning off on me, and trying to write a number of projects I have going on right now (i.e. my novel, two short films, a couple short comedic web skits, & the writing exercise my friend and I are working on).
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2011-01-17, 10:59 AM #14
Originally posted by Dormouse:
Announcing the NES is closing as a recruitment tactic seems a bit unwholesome..

I just wished to state that this was never my intention. Yes, I feel the community needs to be strengthened, but I assure you, even I have standards in the matter. I would have left the thread open for one if that was the case. I still stand behind my thoughts and actions, but I have also violated what is at the heart of the NeS -- the collaborative spirit. I intend to gather as much of the community together to discuss the matter and act according to the community as a whole. As stated before, CM has good reason to be angry, and I'm not taking any of this lightly, the violation I made the most.
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2011-01-17, 11:58 AM #15
Whelp there goes any reason I had to care about the ISB.
2011-01-17, 7:24 PM #16
Well, let's be honest: after I ruined the Spooky Taco it was only a matter of time until the rest of the ISB went downhill. :(

Quote:
Whelp there goes any reason I had to care about the ISB.


Perhaps you've heard of the exciting new (old) series titled The Adventures of Wolfy? Also that other one I wrote about British Parliament.
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2011-01-17, 8:34 PM #17
I don't understand what the NeS could possibly lose from remaining open?
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2011-01-17, 11:22 PM #18
Originally posted by Jon`C:
Yeah wow, this is pretty damn arrogant.

whaaa I don't have time to micromanage the NES anymore
*s***s all over threads*
*locks them*

Hey, here's an idea: maybe people don't post on the NES because they don't want to deal with a little despot?


Anyone can say what they will, but the NeS has, more or less, always been Gebohq's baby. He's the one who fathered it, and he's the one who provided for it when it would have otherwise not survived this long. As with most babies, it was tended to by various people throughout its life. But its father remained at the core of it all.

His baby was dying, and he wanted to bury it. Okay, so maybe his baby was still on life support, but he wanted closure, and that's where burying a barely-alive baby comes in.
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2011-01-17, 11:44 PM #19
....so what you're saying is that Gebohq is a baby-killer?
2011-01-18, 12:11 AM #20
I was always a bit too intimidated by the vastness of it to post. =/
I can't wait for the day schools get the money they need, and the military has to hold bake sales to afford bombs.
2011-01-18, 7:10 AM #21
In response to the community who have voiced their objections, the NeS thread will be re-opened.

Also, Tracer speaks truth -- the ISB will always have The Adventures of Wolfy!
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2011-01-18, 7:44 AM #22
Okay, the end of the never-ending story has now ended. You all can now post! :P

Suggesting people post onto the writer story, add yourselves in without having to deal with past history at all!
2011-01-18, 8:00 AM #23
drama drama drama
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2011-01-18, 8:03 AM #24
Originally posted by Freelancer:
drama drama drama

Well, it is a story after all, but I think I'd prefer comedy comedy comedy myself.
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2011-01-18, 5:25 PM #25
Wow, this thread is genius. I'm now attracted to reading this story whereas I had no interest whatsoever. Publicity stunts do work.
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2011-01-18, 7:28 PM #26
Not gonna lie. All it does for me is make me want to revive A Knight's Tail.

http://forums.massassi.net/vb3/showthread.php?t=18368 == A Knight's Tail (I'd be all over this if Noble and Jim are interested... or anyone else for that matter)

http://forums.massassi.net/vb3/showthread.php?t=18371 == Exile: A Tale of Light in Dark (the prequel)
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2011-01-18, 7:34 PM #27
Originally posted by Jon`C:
....so what you're saying is that Gebohq is a baby-killer?


Baby killers are ****ed up man.

As I US Marine, I want to make it clear that I only ever ate babies that were already dead.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2011-01-18, 7:52 PM #28
Yecti: I was hoping someone would revive that other story I was writing for in ISB... I can't remember the name now :(
2011-01-18, 8:05 PM #29
I just re-read Exile again. It's going really good places. I'll have to make time to write something for it this weekend.

And just now to the end of AKT as it stands. Jim... Do you remember where you planned to take the story five years ago? Kinda left it dead in the water.
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