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State of the Union
2011-01-26, 10:37 AM #1


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2011-01-26, 10:41 AM #2
I couldn't watch it because I got tired of all of the stopping and clapping.

Also, I'm getting really tired of this guy.
2011-01-26, 11:00 AM #3
I thought it was a collection of really cool things we should do.


Unfortunately, that's all I can ever say about promises that our governing body makes.
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2011-01-26, 11:07 AM #4
I've been tired of this guy. Didn't care enough to watch.
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2011-01-26, 12:07 PM #5
An hour of nothing but promises, pretty dull.
2011-01-26, 12:09 PM #6
I'd rather read my January 2011 State of the Mod address.
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2011-01-26, 12:15 PM #7
it was an hour of things that have been promised before, and in reality will never happen. if they could not get this stuff done when one party had the majority in both houses of congress and the presidency, then there is no chance of it happening now. also i am calling bull**** on him vetoing any legislation that has earmarks. he wont stick to it and also i dont think congress is capable of producing legislation with no earmarks. overall it seemed like one long uninspired soaring platitude.

the salmon joke was kind of funny though.
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2011-01-26, 2:11 PM #8
I was disappointed that he joked about the invasive searches going on by the TSA. My family (including my 4 year old son) is going to fly in a couple of weeks and we've got the choice between letting them take naked pictures of him or allowing a government official to molest him. Yay america.
2011-01-26, 2:55 PM #9
I think that Obama's expectations are reasonable. I'm just not sure that the American people are reasonable.
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2011-01-26, 3:47 PM #10
Originally posted by FastGamerr:
I'd rather read my January 2011 State of the Mod address.

Sounds like you have a lot to do...a
2011-01-26, 4:04 PM #11
Originally posted by Mentat:
I think that Obama's expectations are reasonable. I'm just not sure that the American people are reasonable.

Agreed. I get so aggravated when people talk about how the President always seems to do nothing. These people do not understand how our government works. The President has limited power, and he cannot simply make things happen on his own.

I'm not at all picking sides to saying Republicans are stupid or Democrats are stupid, it's just that people as a whole are stupid and shouldn't make ignorant comments toward the government if they have no idea what they are talking about.
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2011-01-26, 11:19 PM #12
I really don't think his expectations are particularly reasonable. Without a complete change in the way government works from federal to local municipalities the things he wants implemented won't be. If the nation is so devided and upsidown that these things are impossible to get done then expecting them does not seem reasonable.

And really it's only a matter of time till airport style security will be required for public transit such as trains.
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2011-01-27, 6:50 AM #13
This nation has often been divided (we've even been through a civil war). I don't see why you think some of these things are "impossible to get done". The same type of argument has been made about healthcare reform since before you & I were born but it went through. You may not like the shape of it & neither do a lot of people (it's not even in the shape that the president wanted...it was a compromise) but something got through (much of it good) & that's more than anyone else has done. If he's unreasonable about anything it's his faith in the reason of the American people.
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2011-01-27, 7:20 AM #14
So he's proposing billions on billions in new spending and at the same time resolving to take care of the deficit?
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2011-01-27, 7:48 AM #15
Actually he said any new spending would be taken care of by tax increases for the top 2% of earners, a more fair corporate tax structure (no more subsidies for big oil, no more loopholes), significant domestic spending cuts, and significant military spending cuts. He also implied changes to medicare/medicaid and social security because the current systems are unsustainable.
2011-01-27, 8:22 AM #16
Ugh, thanks Obama.

Everybody knows that trickle-down economics is the only proven successful way of redistributing wealth. Someone who makes $5 million a year spends his $5.99 a day at McDonalds, but with these tax hikes he'll be forced to spend $3.99 at Taco Bell instead.

And how can companies afford to stop ****ing the economy if big government tries to make changes? We don't need change, we just need a stronger economy.

Obama's such a fascist commie.
2011-01-27, 8:50 AM #17
Originally posted by Mentat:
This nation has often been divided (we've even been through a civil war). I don't see why you think some of these things are "impossible to get done". The same type of argument has been made about healthcare reform since before you & I were born but it went through. You may not like the shape of it & neither do a lot of people (it's not even in the shape that the president wanted...it was a compromise) but something got through (much of it good) & that's more than anyone else has done. If he's unreasonable about anything it's his faith in the reason of the American people.


i'm not saying some of his ideas are not good. but like your example of health care, it passed when a single party held both houses of congress and the presidency. and even then, not by much.
as for medicare and social security? i simply dont believe there will be any meaningful reform. its almost guaranteed they dont have any idea how to do it. or they would have laid out some kind of plan. like most of the speech, sounds good, but if your going to be realistic, it simply wont happen.
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2011-01-27, 3:42 PM #18
Originally posted by Jon`C:
And how can companies afford to stop ****ing the economy if big government tries to make changes? We don't need change, we just need a stronger economy.


There's a pretty large chunk of literature about economics and information that I'm sure you are aware of because you are a smart guy (not sarcastic comment, btw), so I find it odd that you would say that. I'm not arguing that big government changes lead to a ****ty economy, but big government changes do change the information available to all agents in an economy, and often times for the worse just because of the volume of changes that most people have no clue how to interpret or even access. I may have interpreted your statement wrong though, I didn't quite understand it. Now, if the government changes were to simplify the mortgage process, for instance, that'd be a good thing. But often times the government doesn't try to simplify things, and instead expands the scope. So there is a decent argument, at least in the current volatile state, that big government changes depending on how they are implemented could harm an economy.

Other than that though, I thought the speech was pretty good. I'm very supportive of "Race to the Top" and how it goes about its business, as well as the internet/wireless 98% coverage deal (which IMO is incredibly important for growth). The DADT segment of the speech was pretty hilarious, as it seemed to be the standout portion of the speech where you could hear and feel the hatred from the Republican party. Other than that, typical SOTU
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2011-01-27, 3:56 PM #19
obvious troll is not obvious to mscbuck
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2011-01-27, 4:01 PM #20
It's called 'satire.'
2011-01-27, 4:23 PM #21
Originally posted by mscbuck:
There's a pretty large chunk of literature about economics and information that I'm sure you are aware of because you are a smart guy (not sarcastic comment, btw), so I find it odd that you would say that. I'm not arguing that big government changes lead to a ****ty economy, but big government changes do change the information available to all agents in an economy, and often times for the worse just because of the volume of changes that most people have no clue how to interpret or even access. I may have interpreted your statement wrong though, I didn't quite understand it. Now, if the government changes were to simplify the mortgage process, for instance, that'd be a good thing. But often times the government doesn't try to simplify things, and instead expands the scope. So there is a decent argument, at least in the current volatile state, that big government changes depending on how they are implemented could harm an economy.

Other than that though, I thought the speech was pretty good. I'm very supportive of "Race to the Top" and how it goes about its business, as well as the internet/wireless 98% coverage deal (which IMO is incredibly important for growth). The DADT segment of the speech was pretty hilarious, as it seemed to be the standout portion of the speech where you could hear and feel the hatred from the Republican party. Other than that, typical SOTU


Irrespective of trolling, why are you in support of stuff that won't happen, regardless of whether it's wanted or not?
2011-01-27, 4:24 PM #22
I r dumb :(....

Anyways, What do you mean why am I in support of stuff that won't happen? I said I support the idea behind Race to the Top, and I support the idea of interent coverage. Why should it matter if it happens or not? Believe me, I know it probably won't get done (although Race to the Top has a chance if the upcoming federal grant to value-added firms comes through).

Maybe this is just a really bad day for me and my processing skills *le sigh*
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2011-01-27, 4:53 PM #23
Originally posted by Jon`C:
It's called 'satire.'

Poe's Law :XD:
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2011-01-27, 7:07 PM #24
tl;dr
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2011-01-28, 1:44 PM #25
I liked the joke about smoked salmon.
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2011-01-28, 2:27 PM #26
The homosexuals in service ban part was funny because it showed military officials remaining seated and looking really sad.
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2011-01-28, 7:03 PM #27
Originally posted by Spook:
The homosexuals in service ban part was / really sad.


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2011-01-28, 7:23 PM #28
Originally posted by Jon`C:

Obama's such a fascist commie.

Fascist socialist commie
2011-01-29, 1:39 PM #29
Originally posted by Tibby:
Fascist socialist commie

He's a cigarette-smokin' senior-killin' fascist racist Kenyan Muslim with communist/socialist (because everyone knows those are interchangeable terms) tendencies.
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2011-01-29, 1:43 PM #30
You all are a bunch of fascistic socialist communazis.

I have the chalkboard to prove it.
2011-01-29, 1:43 PM #31
Originally posted by Mentat:
He's a cigarette-smokin' senior-killin' fascist racist Kenyan Muslim with communist/socialist (because everyone knows those are interchangeable terms) tendencies.


Worst of all, he's also Irish.
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2011-01-29, 1:44 PM #32
Originally posted by Wookie06:
fixed


Sad because of the problems that leadership will face in the process of integrating an ultimately beneficial rule? Yes.
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2011-01-29, 2:04 PM #33
In fact I have taken the liberty of recreating the moment

I especially liked how SSgt Giunta was chewing gum in uniform. On camera. **** yeah!
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2011-01-29, 7:50 PM #34
Quote:
It's called 'satire.'
Satire of whom?

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