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lol, Canuckistan
2011-01-31, 6:18 AM #1
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/01/canada-gets-first-bitter-dose-of-metered-internet-billing.ars

tl;dr:
200GB cap in Canada now 25GB.

Here's to hoping it doesn't happen in the good ole US of A!
2011-01-31, 6:24 AM #2
Funny thing about the Comcast cap is it's more realistically like 500 GB or higher. I hit 250 quite often, and have never heard a peep from them about it. Only people I've heard who've had issues are those who go way over month after month. Of course that doesn't mean they can't suddenly start being dicks and try to enforce it much more strictly.
2011-01-31, 6:25 AM #3
Still no caps whatsoever in Finland that I know of, and I truly hope it remains that way...but nothing good lasts forever, does it?
Looks like we're not going down after all, so nevermind.
2011-01-31, 6:38 AM #4
We've used 152Gb this month...two people, two 360's on Live, lots of Netflix, Steam, etc. 250Gb is a lot...I doubt I'd ever hit that (in the near future) unless I was doing a lot of torrents.
woot!
2011-01-31, 7:14 AM #5
I'd have to try hard to hit that old 200GB mark. But 25GB? Jesus christ, I hit that every month easily.
2011-01-31, 7:17 AM #6
JLee do you stream netflix in HD?
2011-01-31, 7:20 AM #7
Originally posted by Brian:
JLee do you stream netflix in HD?


It's not like you have a choice. If the device supports HD, you have the bandwidth for it, and the movie is in HD, then it streams in HD :P
2011-01-31, 8:02 AM #8
Originally posted by Krokodile:
Still no caps whatsoever in Finland that I know of, and I truly hope it remains that way...but nothing good lasts forever, does it?


From what I've heard, around here they don't actually tell people that they have these limitations on their Internet. Such secrecy in the Glorious Commublic of Finland! :omg:
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2011-01-31, 10:10 AM #9
[QUOTE=Cool Matty]Here's to hoping it doesn't happen in the good ole US of A![/QUOTE]There are a lot of people whining about this right now and none of them have any idea what's actually happening.

Canadian plans have always had caps, they just weren't enforced by the major telecoms (Telus, Shaw, etc.) The caps weren't enforced partly because it wasn't worth their effort, and partly because it might have been illegal for them to do it.

The real reason this has happened is because Canadian law forces the major telecoms to sublet to smaller carriers in exchange for their franchise. Those smaller carriers got wise to the fact that the telecoms weren't willing/able to enforce caps, so the little companies were massively overselling the bandwidth they were leasing. That's how you get "indie" ISPs like these TekSavvy clowns selling unlimited packages which they were never really capable of providing (given that they're dropping down to a 25 GB cap per user, that's probably the kind of service TekSavvy is actually paying their supplier for.)

The telecoms are just enforcing an agreement that has been in place for years. The way people make it sound is like there's a nation-wide bandwidth cap or something. I'm paying for a fairly modest 60 GB cap, and there are much bigger and faster plans available.

Edit: I just checked, I've been upgraded to 100 GB.
2011-01-31, 10:16 AM #10
Originally posted by JLee:
We've used 152Gb this month...two people, two 360's on Live, lots of Netflix, Steam, etc. 250Gb is a lot...I doubt I'd ever hit that (in the near future) unless I was doing a lot of torrents.


Not too hard in my house with two people and a 50 Megabit pipe. And neither of us do any sort of file sharing. Most of it goes to Netflix and Steam.
2011-01-31, 10:26 AM #11
I had 5GB/month in Alaska. Unlimited from 12am-6am. Sucked.

o.0
2011-01-31, 12:32 PM #12
Shaw gives us 60, 100 with the high speed extreme package.
Seriously though, **** the ****ing CRTC.
2011-01-31, 1:01 PM #13
Case in point.
2011-01-31, 1:04 PM #14
I don't quite understand why they can do this, it's not like they have a limited amount of gigabytes and have to chose which customers get them. If the cable companies tried to tell people there were limiting the amount of TV they could watch on a monthly basis they would get slammed by their customers, yet ISPs can pull this **** without anyone batting an eye.
2011-01-31, 1:09 PM #15
Originally posted by Tibby:
I don't quite understand why they can do this, it's not like they have a limited amount of gigabytes and have to chose which customers get them. If the cable companies tried to tell people there were limiting the amount of TV they could watch on a monthly basis they would get slammed by their customers, yet ISPs can pull this **** without anyone batting an eye.


In all seriousness, I can think of a lot of cable customers whose lives would benefit immensely from such a limit.
Also, I can kill you with my brain.
2011-01-31, 1:23 PM #16
Originally posted by Tibby:
I don't quite understand why they can do this, it's not like they have a limited amount of gigabytes and have to chose which customers get them. If the cable companies tried to tell people there were limiting the amount of TV they could watch on a monthly basis they would get slammed by their customers, yet ISPs can pull this **** without anyone batting an eye.
If you read the thread you'd know why they can do this, but that might be expecting too much.
2011-01-31, 1:34 PM #17
I read the thread and what you said about tiny companies selling more then they can etc, but why are the big ISPs charging per GB in the first place? When did that start?
2011-01-31, 1:57 PM #18
Originally posted by Tibby:
I read the thread and what you said about tiny companies selling more then they can etc, but why are the big ISPs charging per GB in the first place? When did that start?


Since the beginning of ISPs? Except when I was growing up, it was by the KB or MB.
Also, I can kill you with my brain.
2011-01-31, 2:34 PM #19
Originally posted by Dormouse:
Since the beginning of ISPs? Except when I was growing up, it was by the KB or MB.


Not when I grew up. When I grew up, it was by the minute, or if it was "unlimited", then the amount of time between when AOL would ask if you were still alive. >.>
2011-01-31, 3:55 PM #20
Someone explain to me why Americans like to make fun of Canadians.

I've often wondered about all these 'LOL Canada' sentiments.
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2011-01-31, 4:06 PM #21
For the same reason any country makes fun of another? Because it's fun? It's not like the Canadians around here don't pick on the USA every once in a while.
2011-01-31, 4:13 PM #22
Amerikkka.
2011-01-31, 5:34 PM #23
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
It's not like the Canadians around here don't pick on the USA every once in a while.


That doesn't count, everybody makes fun of the USA
You can't judge a book by it's file size
2011-01-31, 6:44 PM #24
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
Someone explain to me why Americans like to make fun of Canadians.


Too much free time.
2011-01-31, 7:11 PM #25
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
Someone explain to me why Americans like to make fun of Canadians.

I've often wondered about all these 'LOL Canada' sentiments.


Because we're jealous that it's easier to find fries with gravy on them there.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2011-01-31, 7:11 PM #26
Because you all play hockey and ride moose.
2011-01-31, 9:50 PM #27
It's complete BS. Thank god I'm going to be able to keep my grandfathered plan from TekSavvy.
2011-01-31, 10:22 PM #28
Originally posted by Spook:
Because we're jealous that it's easier to find fries with gravy on them there.


Come to Oklahoma, where you can get a hot hamburger AKA a hamburger patty on some bread covered in french fries covered in gravy.
Warhead[97]
2011-02-01, 5:09 AM #29
Definitely pass
You can't judge a book by it's file size
2011-02-01, 5:13 AM #30
Originally posted by BobTheMasher:
Come to Oklahoma, where you can get a hot hamburger AKA a hamburger patty on some bread covered in french fries covered in gravy.


No thanks brah, I've experienced Oklahoma women and Utah has hotter ones.

The bar across the street from my school makes an attempt at poutine fries that is quite acceptable with a guinness or two.
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2011-02-01, 5:15 AM #31
Originally posted by Spook:
No thanks brah, I've experienced Oklahoma women and Utah has hotter ones.

The bar across the street from my school makes an attempt at poutine fries that is quite acceptable with a guinness or two.


I missed the first part of this sentence and was momentarily quite envious of your school's menu...
Also, I can kill you with my brain.
2011-02-01, 8:08 PM #32
Tony Clement on CTV news tonight. Pretty much said it's going to be overturned for sure.

**** yeah!
2011-02-01, 8:13 PM #33
Originally posted by Deadman:
That doesn't count, everybody makes fun of the USA


That's because everybody else is jealous. Well, except for the legally potheaded countries. They're to stoned to be jealous.
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2011-02-01, 8:14 PM #34
look wookie bait!
ORJ / My Level: ORJ Temple Tournament I
2011-02-01, 8:23 PM #35
Originally posted by Connection Problem:
Tony Clement on CTV news tonight. Pretty much said it's going to be overturned for sure.

**** yeah!


your name.

it's irony
Epstein didn't kill himself.
2011-02-01, 10:01 PM #36
Originally posted by ORJ_JoS:
look wookie bait!


Ooh, where, where! Me hungry!
"I would rather claim to be an uneducated man than be mal-educated and claim to be otherwise." - Wookie 03:16

2011-02-02, 6:19 AM #37
Originally posted by Cool Matty:
Not when I grew up. When I grew up, it was by the minute, or if it was "unlimited", then the amount of time between when AOL would ask if you were still alive. >.>


Yeah that was more common.. I'm trying to remember who it is that we had who billed by size instead of time.
Also, I can kill you with my brain.
2011-02-03, 9:06 AM #38
Hmm.... Limited Internet or Limited Freedom.

I'll take my ****ty internet and being able to stand in tall buildings worry free plz :)
2011-02-03, 9:33 AM #39
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/crtc-will-rescind-unlimited-use-internet-decision-or-ottawa-will-overturn-it/article1892522/

bampf
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2011-02-03, 10:55 AM #40
Originally posted by Wookie06:
Ooh, where, where! Me hungry!


is this you
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