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The Massassi Political Compass project
2011-02-19, 4:12 AM #1
I made the Massassi political compass quite a long time ago and I thought I'd lost the data after a reformat. But I recently came across it on an old backup DVD and realised it hadn't been updated since the April 2006. In 2006 we were variously in the 6th year of Bush, 9th year of New Labour, just out of 13 yrs of the Canadian Liberal party etc; the economy hadn't tanked yet and many of us were still in full-time education, so it should be pretty interesting to see if, and in what way, our political stances have changed.

There was a thread on this in 2009 and I've grabbed those results to start to see if any trends showed up. Here's what we have so far for those who posted in '06 and '09 or later:
[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/Recusant/Movements.png]

So far there seems to be a trend towards stronger civil libertarianism but any general drift in economic views is hard to discern yet (weakly to the right?).
I suspect that since the majority of us are working and paying tax now our views on economic issues must have changed a bit. Though, I've swung a lot further left :huh:

The original '06 chart is here

And a newer chart using data from '09 onwards is here

So please take the questionnaire at http://www.politicalcompass.org/ and let us know your results and I'll add you to it. Might be cool to hear why you think you've swung or stayed in place too.
2011-02-19, 4:29 AM #2
The survey is flawed to the point of uselessness. EG, 'our race' can be interpreted two very different ways depending on whether you assume the imaginary person giving you the survey has the same color skin as you, and the assumption that 'justified' and 'right' mean the same thing.

But I'm still in basically the same place. 0,-6
2011-02-19, 4:35 AM #3
Me now:

[http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.38&soc=-6.05]
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2011-02-19, 5:46 AM #4
Not too surprising:
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2011-02-19, 5:51 AM #5
Originally posted by Recusant:
I suspect that since the majority of us are working and paying tax now our views on economic issues must have changed a bit.


I don't get this attitude... is the suggestion that liberal students change their tune when they grow up and find that they have to pay tax in order to support their ideals? I now earn more than the mean UK income (and way over the median), but that doesn't mean I've suddenly stopped believing in the redistribution of wealth.
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2011-02-19, 6:34 AM #6
Economic Left/Right: -6.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.33

Suddenly I'm a communist!

What the ****.
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2011-02-19, 7:09 AM #7
[http://politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-2.38&soc=-2.31]

About what I expected.
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2011-02-19, 7:28 AM #8
[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/garosaon/fgraph2011.png]
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2011-02-19, 7:50 AM #9
Originally posted by maevie:
I don't get this attitude... is the suggestion that liberal students change their tune when they grow up and find that they have to pay tax in order to support their ideals? I now earn more than the mean UK income (and way over the median), but that doesn't mean I've suddenly stopped believing in the redistribution of wealth.

I was already working for 15 years when the test outed me as a tree-hugging hippy.
? :)
2011-02-19, 7:58 AM #10
Originally posted by maevie:
I don't get this attitude... is the suggestion that liberal students change their tune when they grow up and find that they have to pay tax in order to support their ideals? I now earn more than the mean UK income (and way over the median), but that doesn't mean I've suddenly stopped believing in the redistribution of wealth.


Basically this. I'm still a progressive radical at heart even if I do work for a Great Big Corporation.
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2011-02-19, 8:36 AM #11
-7.12, -7.54

[http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-7.12&soc=-7.54]
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2011-02-19, 8:39 AM #12
Yep
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2011-02-19, 8:42 AM #13
These questions kind of suck.
[http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=4.50&soc=2.77]
Economic Left/Right: 4.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.77
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2011-02-19, 8:50 AM #14
Originally posted by JM:
The survey is flawed to the point of uselessness.


Absolutely, there's so many vague questions demanding absolutes, it's ridiculous.
Also questions like "Our civil liberties are being excessively curbed in the name of counter-terrorism." seem to assume (I assume...) that I'm American, as different countries have had different levels of security increase in the name of counter-terrorism.
And the next question that asks "A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system"... to me that seems to make sense, a one-party state would indeed have less delay in it's vote... but agreeing with that statement doesn't mean I think this is a good thing. Or have I misunderstood the question anyway?

As for: "You cannot be moral without being religious." I can only imagine how stupid you would have to be to actually agree with such a statement.


Well anyway, enough of the rant:
Economic Left/Right: -6.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.67
[http://www.politicalcompass.org/printablegraph?ec=-6.62&soc=-4.67]
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2011-02-19, 8:58 AM #15
Originally posted by Deadman:
As for: "You cannot be moral without being religious." I can only imagine how stupid you would have to be to actually agree with such a statement.

There are a LOT of people that think this, if for no other reason than they are unfamiliar with moral frameworks outside of religion
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2011-02-19, 9:37 AM #16
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? :)
2011-02-19, 9:54 AM #17
:psyduck:

Exact same from the first time I took this in 2006 or 2007. Somewhere around there.
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2011-02-19, 10:22 AM #18
My new position:
Economic Left/Right: -2.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

Oh nooooo you dirtly liberals have shifted my position!
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2011-02-19, 10:48 AM #19
Originally posted by Emon:
There are a LOT of people that think this,


That is downright terrifying.
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2011-02-19, 11:03 AM #20
No surprise really
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2011-02-19, 11:17 AM #21
Economic Left/Right: -3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87

Originally posted by Emon:
There are a LOT of people that think this, if for no other reason than they are unfamiliar with moral frameworks outside of religion

It's funny considering most of the specifics for religious morality are based on the secular study of ethics. At least the parts that are self-consistent.
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2011-02-19, 12:00 PM #22
need more right leaning libertarian types around here :awesome:
2011-02-19, 12:13 PM #23
Originally posted by Deadman:
That is downright terrifying.

It's called the American South

[http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=0.38&soc=-3.33]

Wow I've changed. If you look at 2006, I was the Tyrant of Massassi.
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2011-02-19, 1:05 PM #24
Originally posted by Dash_rendar:
need more right leaning libertarian types around here :awesome:


Wish granted!

Economic Left/Right: 3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.26

[http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=3.25&soc=-2.26]
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2011-02-19, 1:20 PM #25
[http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23215/Compass.jpg]
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2011-02-19, 1:35 PM #26
Economic Left/Right: -4.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79
[http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-4.62&soc=-5.79]
Seems about where I left it.
2011-02-19, 2:08 PM #27
[http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-3.75&soc=-2.36]

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.36



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2011-02-19, 3:13 PM #28
Apparently I'm slightly more lefty than before.


[http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-6.00&soc=-2.82]

Economic Left/Right: -6.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.82
nope.
2011-02-19, 3:16 PM #29
Originally posted by Dash_rendar:
need more right leaning libertarian types around here :awesome:


You won't get many off this test. It rates me smack in the middle (0), but I'm really on the right. It likely gets it wrong because of the questions involving corporations. It thinks that not supporting corporations is a leftist position, when in fact the libertarian right also does not support corporations - because they understand that corporations can only exist when the government grants them limited liability, and they don't believe the government should be granting anyone limited liability.
2011-02-19, 3:33 PM #30
[http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-1.75&soc=-3.28]
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2011-02-19, 5:07 PM #31
[http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-0.12&soc=-2.15]
Right about where I expected.
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2011-02-19, 5:48 PM #32
I used to be very close to GBK but now I am more Liberterian apparently (but about the same Left/Right)
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2011-02-19, 5:49 PM #33
[http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-2.88&soc=-3.23]

Guess I'm not that different from you American types. ;)
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2011-02-19, 6:32 PM #34
I'm in about the same place. except more authoritarian. probably because i chose more "strongly agree/disagree" than i usually do. i tend to most of the time just "agree/disagree".

Economic Left/Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.28



[http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.75&soc=-3.28]
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2011-02-19, 6:38 PM #35
Get outta my space, Ford!
nope.
2011-02-19, 7:42 PM #36
Last time I posted this I received an invitation to the Massassi Conservative Party!
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2011-02-19, 9:32 PM #37
fairly happy with where i am.

But where the hell was the most important question

"hey baby, wanna kill all humans?"
"-strongly agree"


Economic Left/Right: -6.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.49
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2011-02-19, 9:58 PM #38
I seem to be a bit more left/libertarian than back in '06, but not by much. I consider myself closer to the middle, though really, I just hate politics in general.
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2011-02-20, 2:37 AM #39
Economic Left/Right: -7.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79


[http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-7.00&soc=-5.79]
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2011-02-20, 3:02 AM #40
[http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3586/pcgraphpng.jpg]

Derp.
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