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Firefox 4
2011-03-28, 12:14 AM #1
How many of you guys are using it, and how do you all think it stacks up against Chrome 10?

I am pretty satisfied with it, nice and snappy. I'd say its on par with Chrome honestly. I don't think it has hardware acceleration though, I could be completely wrong.
2011-03-28, 6:31 AM #2
Firefox 4 has been great for me. I use it over Chrome anyway, since Chrome's extension support is ... well it's not great.
2011-03-28, 6:35 AM #3
I have it installed and it seems pretty nice. It doesn't have anything that would make me use it over chrome though.

Also time to nerd out: Font rendering in both browsers is greatly improved in these latest releases.
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2011-03-28, 6:46 AM #4
I just updated this morning.

I'm happy enough with it now that I've discovered that I can move the tab bar back under the address bar. The add-on bar being that easily closable is bugging me a little but I'm sure I'll get used to it.
nope.
2011-03-28, 7:20 AM #5
It's fine. The tabs on top is retarded because it makes it seem like the address bar and search bar are associated with each tab, but in reality they have the exact same behavior as before. I think that if the search bar is inside a tab, and I type something, then switch to another tab, it should save my old search in the old tab (like opera). So I moved the tabs back where they belong and things are fine. I definitely notice a speed increase on JS heavy sites. Does this one have separate processes for each tab like Chrome? I seem to still notice that if I'm loading a js-heavy site in one tab and then open another tab and start loading something else, it all bogs down and gets slow until the first one finishes. I think this indicates that they do not have threads or process separation.

As CM noted, though, the extensions in Chrome are not that great compared to firefox so I still use firefox.
2011-03-28, 7:28 AM #6
Originally posted by Brian:
The tabs on top is retarded because it makes it seem like the address bar and search bar are associated with each tab

...it is associated with each tab. The address changes per tab.
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2011-03-28, 8:28 AM #7
I'm actually to the point where I am sick of Firefox's bloat, and am probably going to outfit firefox as a web designing firebug platform and use Chrome for my general browsing. I noticed pretty much all of my addons are web design and bookmark oriented.
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2011-03-28, 9:07 AM #8
Originally posted by JediKirby:
I'm actually to the point where I am sick of Firefox's bloat, and am probably going to outfit firefox as a web designing firebug platform and use Chrome for my general browsing. I noticed pretty much all of my addons are web design and bookmark oriented.


What bloat?
2011-03-28, 9:07 AM #9
Originally posted by Emon:
...it is associated with each tab. The address changes per tab.


The address bar changes (it always has), the search box definitely does not. Putting tabs on top was purely a visual change and the tabs are no more closely or loosely related to the things they now contain than they were before they contained anything but the web page.
2011-03-28, 9:13 AM #10
I like it a lot. Several of my old addons weren't compatible with 4, but those are all fixed/replaced now.

Putting the tabs up in the title bar saves a lot of space, as does hiding the menu bar. I also ended up getting rid of some things (like ForecastFox) up in the toolbars that I realized I don't use anyways. The extra space is great.
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2011-03-28, 9:22 AM #11
Firefox uses 200,000 K, while Chrome with the exact same tabs open runs 60,000 K. When minimized and playing a game I got chrome to 20,000. I still don't use Chrome regularly so maybe it spikes during use or something, but it's notably less of a resource hog on my machine.
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2011-03-28, 9:44 AM #12
Apparently Firefox does have hardware acceleration, and it is enabled by default unlike chrome. Interesting.
2011-03-28, 11:29 AM #13
Originally posted by JediKirby:
Firefox uses 200,000 K, while Chrome with the exact same tabs open runs 60,000 K. When minimized and playing a game I got chrome to 20,000. I still don't use Chrome regularly so maybe it spikes during use or something, but it's notably less of a resource hog on my machine.


I have had Chrome use over 1GB of my RAM for essentially no reason. It is no better in this regard. RAM usage skyrockets over time. Also keep in mind that the numbers you're quoting from task manager are likely the default ones that include cached information, aka, not actual RAM usage.
2011-03-28, 9:04 PM #14
Originally posted by x25064:
Apparently Firefox does have hardware acceleration, and it is enabled by default unlike chrome. Interesting.


The only hardware acceleration that isn't enabled by default in Chrome 11 is 2D composting. Which you can enable super easily should you so choose.
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2011-03-28, 9:10 PM #15
Originally posted by JediKirby:
Firefox uses 200,000 K, while Chrome with the exact same tabs open runs 60,000 K. When minimized and playing a game I got chrome to 20,000. I still don't use Chrome regularly so maybe it spikes during use or something, but it's notably less of a resource hog on my machine.


I see 108k in a single firefox process vs 159k across 7 chrome processes.

Same tabs opened in both.
2011-03-28, 9:18 PM #16
Originally posted by Brian:
Putting tabs on top was purely a visual change and the tabs are no more closely or loosely related to the things they now contain than they were before they contained anything but the web page.

What? The address bar is now literally contained inside the same visual element.
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2011-03-28, 9:27 PM #17
Internet Explorer Represent!

Firefox's layout is lame.

(I use chrome by the way. I need to state that before a bunch of Internet geeks rant and rave about how bad it is and how stupid I am for using it)
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2011-03-29, 7:15 AM #18
Originally posted by Emon:
What? The address bar is now literally contained inside the same visual element.


I don't know how to phrase it any other way. All they did was move the tabs, the behavior of the address bar and search box stayed exactly the same. The address bar changes as you switch between tabs, it's always done this, even when the address bar wasn't inside the tabs. The search bar does not change as you click tabs, even though it's contained inside each tab just like the address bar, but it should since it's contained inside each tab. They made a purely visual change with no functional change.
2011-03-29, 7:23 AM #19
Yeah, all they really did was move the bar an inch higher; there's no real functional change.
nope.
2011-03-29, 7:58 AM #20
Ah! That explains why I found Emon's initial post so confusing.
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2011-03-30, 1:43 PM #21
Just updated on my laptop. It looks a lot better on 7 than it does on XP.
nope.
2011-03-30, 2:15 PM #22
Originally posted by Yecti:
The only hardware acceleration that isn't enabled by default in Chrome 11 is 2D composting. Which you can enable super easily should you so choose.


I am running Chrome 10, seeing as 11 isn't officially released yet.

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