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Thor
2011-05-06, 5:39 PM #1
I saw it today. It was fun and decent overall, but in no way deserving of the 94% approval when it was first released in Australia. The movie has sunk down to an approval rating of 80% since then.

As expected, the visuals are quite nice (Asgard particularly). However, the movie just feels a bit more shallow and cliche ridden compared to some of the other comic book movies like Iron Man, X-Men, Spider-Man, Batman Begins, etc.

I guess it's because the characters aren't developed too well. Natalie Portman's a great actress, but here she doesn't have much to work with. I do like Chris Hemmsworth as Thor though. But if I were to nitpick a bit, it seems like he made his accent less heavy once he lands on Earth? I'm also not sure about Loki's sudden transition to becoming the scum of Asgard.

Don't get me wrong, it's a fun movie (7.3/10) as long as you don't expect much (I thought it would be Iron Man 1 quality). This is the best scene in the movie though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YCcxL8oO9o
2011-05-06, 9:33 PM #2
I like how your rating isnt just a 7/10 but 7.3/10. I hope to see it soon. :)
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2011-05-06, 11:56 PM #3
How dare you attack the son of Odin!

Also,

Agent, son of CAUL, you shall have the answers you seek.

This drink! I like it. ANOTHER! *smash*

And Natalie Portman proves that George Lucas really is just an awful director because she nails the whole "having a mad crush on Thor" bit.
>>untie shoes
2011-05-07, 6:25 AM #4
I want to see it, but why is the poster so ****ing boring?

[http://theheroicage.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Thor-Poster-02.jpg]
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2011-05-07, 1:16 PM #5
I just saw it on Antony's recommendation, thought it wasn't half bad. Better than Spiderman, that's for sure.
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2011-05-07, 1:30 PM #6
Netflixed.
? :)
2011-05-08, 1:50 AM #7
I agree with every post so far, except for some of Cloud's (this more shallow and cliche'd than spidermen or xmen? wtf?)
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2011-05-08, 3:19 AM #8
I don't claim that it's anything revolutionary. It's just fun, and a solid movie overall.
>>untie shoes
2011-05-08, 3:52 AM #9
http://movies.nytimes.com/2011/05/06/movies/thor-with-chris-hemsworth-review.html

Every time one of these movies comes out it's always important to read A.O. Scott's review. If nothing else, it should at least remind you that you're not a hateful ******** like him and actually still know how to enjoy yourself.

Does he really hate this film so much that he wanted to get hit by a bus after seeing it? And what the hell is with his whining that they want you to go see sequels and such? Of course they do. That's almost as ridiculous as how when you watch a tv show they specifically try to make each episode good so that you'll watch the next one, or that at restaurants they have the nerve to make the food taste good so you'll come eat there again. It's like he's not even reviewing the film, but just complaining about the film industry.
>>untie shoes
2011-05-08, 4:23 AM #10
Originally posted by Cloud:
(I thought it would be Iron Man 1 quality).

A wee nitpick but I really don't see why everyone things Iron Man was amazing. Sure it was good, but it wasn't anything fantastic.
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2011-05-08, 5:02 AM #11
While I don't think Iron Man was the best movie ever made, I certainly think it's the best super-hero movie made so far.
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2011-05-08, 2:06 PM #12
I thought The Incredible Hulk was the one most people gushed over. That and The Dark Knight.
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2011-05-08, 3:21 PM #13
Everyone gushed over Dark Knight and Iron Man, but DK was too dark for me, and I actually preferred Iron Man 2 over the first one.

I mean, come on, the action at the end if IM2 is fantastic, between the Iron Man War Machine team up vs hordes of drones and the supersuit (especially IM's kill-them-all laser), plus Black Widow's fighing scene, which is without a doubt one of the best ninja scenes I've ever seen.

As for DK, I am so cynical that I was completely astonished that NEITHER ship blew up the other. Guess Hollywood has more faith in humanity than I do...
2011-05-08, 3:45 PM #14
One of the best ninja scenes is in a fluorescently lit corridor!? boo.
2011-05-08, 3:56 PM #15
Originally posted by Wookie06:
I thought The Incredible Hulk was the one most people gushed over.


I haven't seen the 2008 one, but the 2003 one was the very definition of awful
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2011-05-08, 4:06 PM #16
2008 was pretty dang good. What a Hulk movie should be.
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2011-05-08, 4:11 PM #17
I havent seen the 2008 Hulk, and saw only bits and pieces of 2003. Which was the one by Ang Lee?

Also, saberopus, i suppose "ninja" isnt technically correct, i was generally referring to the martial arts and cool vibe.
2011-05-08, 5:22 PM #18
Hulk 2003 was Ang Lee. I actually didnt think it was horrible, just too slow.
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2011-05-08, 6:42 PM #19
Dude lemme tell you that ****er Ed Norton blew ass in Hulk Dos, he's a dumb hunk of mud in that movie and some others I mean seriously that kinda personality works really well in some stuff like Fight Club but his mumbly bumbly self didn't convince me as much as Eric Bana for sure

I mean let's get serious about this Liv Tyler's voice is ****ing annoying and it's kinda ok in LotR and **** where she's speaking elvish so who gives a **** but when she's whining her way through 2 hours of english dialogue i want to batter my brains out across the floor

Hulk Numero el Primero was slow, sure, and something about the locations and sets were kind of awkwardly bleak, but at least the hulk did hulky things. I'm not student of Hulk lore so don't even try and berate me about this **** because I just don't care but at least he was displaying incomprehensible strength and other things I associate with a HULKY KIND OF GUY (LIKE KROOKDILE) whereas in HUKLWARD NORTON he just like ran around on some university field for a while and knocked over some humvees which really doesn't impress me because medium-strength men do that all the time, there just wasn't enouugh raw power ond isplay, and i don't mean this in some kind of god damn fanboy sense where i wanna see the mostest biggest explosions and damages, but just as viscerally satisfying representation of the NATURE of the CHARACTER. Isn't that what the hulk is about? Taking a ton of damage and doling out a ton of damage? I think so... maybe I'm confused, but I sure wasn't too thrilled by the SUPACLIMACTIC end battle in the second film which was just the two of the hulk fighting on the rooftop of a single building I dunno, although the fight in the first one with the giant dad-bubble or whatever the **** emotion bubble thing was kinda ridiculous, at least the hulk ran really fast and jumped ludicrously far.

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I really like jennifer connelly and live tyler is the worst ever
2011-05-08, 6:43 PM #20
HULKBERRY FINN
2011-05-08, 6:44 PM #21
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2011-05-08, 7:04 PM #22
I've become more of a film nut over the years so I've been more critical, not to mention I want to get into the industry and I'm always trying to assess what a movie does right or wrong.

Black Widow's fight scene? I joked to a friend that she used "Jump Fu" since most of her moves consist of jumping on everyone save for the legitimate takedown used at the end. The final action sequence lacked the suspense and tension from the first one.

Maybe it's wrong to say Thor is more shallow than Spider-Man, but something about Thor's pacing seems off. It felt like the plot and characters weren't developed enough or it all happened too quickly. The Asgard scenes are wonderful and they usually add more to plot and character progression (could be why Loki is such a great character overall). Meanwhile the Earth scenes, most of the time they felt more like slapstick scenes until the end of Act 2.

Jane Foster doesn't do much other than be emotional support for Thor and be his driver. She's just isn't a very interesting female lead. The romance between her and Thor doesn't have enough of a gradual build up like in Spider-Man, Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, and Batman Begins. While women like Pepper Potts, Betty Ross, and Rachel Dawes have all been damsel distress at some point in their respective films, they usually have scenes where they risk their lives for a good cause or take charge of a situation. Even in Spider-Man 3, we get to see Mary Jane become more well-rounded as she struggles with her career, loneliness, and love-life.

Again I don't hate the movie. I like it, but it certainly isn't the best.
2011-05-08, 7:14 PM #23
Originally posted by Deadman:
I haven't seen the 2008 one, but the 2003 one was the very definition of awful


The 2003 film was simply titled Hulk. It did some things well but other things horrible. On balance I like the film. The Incredible Hulk is the type of "reboot" I prefer. Rather than throw the previous film out, it really is a sequel to the 2003 film that simply retcons or ignores the problem areas. I hope future superhero reboots follow this sort of format. I really don't need to see a new origin movie every time they want to reboot.
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2011-05-08, 9:26 PM #24
Watched it earlier this evening with Mum, for Mother's Day; I found it entertaining, but I'm not sure if I love or loathe the presentation of Loki. I spent easily half the movie wondering when they were going to start casting him as a villain, and I spent the other half wondering when they were going to stop casting him as sympathetic and justifiable. (Also generally annoyed at Laufey being apparently male... but eh.)
2011-05-09, 11:49 PM #25
Originally posted by Estelore:
(Also generally annoyed at Laufey being apparently male... but eh.)


In the comics Laufey is a guy too, I know in the actual stroy Laufey is Lokis mother, not father, but in the Thor comics that dude has always been a dude
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2011-05-10, 12:39 AM #26
Quote:
In the comics Laufey is a guy too, I know in the actual stroy Laufey is Lokis mother, not father, but in the Thor comics that dude has always been a dude


Yeah... it's more a persistent annoyance with the franchise, but instead of spoiling it for myself by nit-picking every myth-inconsistent detail, I prefer to just isolate the Laufey Problem and make it my primary target for irritation. I could get more nit-picky over treating Loki as Odin's son, for instance, but changing that would actually affect the plot. :(
Changing Laufey's gender is plot-irrelevant for the purposes of the movie... even if it would deprive us of hearing an awesome voice actor.
2011-05-10, 1:51 AM #27
Eh, I just think of this as Thor: the comic super hero, who has similarities to real life legends.
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2011-05-10, 10:04 AM #28
I thought the movie was ok - had some good humor throughout, but in the end I felt it could have just been a 10 minute backstory attached to The Avengers movie rather than a film by itself. Chris Hemsworth is amazing as Thor, however. Perfect casting.
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2011-05-10, 10:31 AM #29
Originally posted by Deadman:
Eh, I just think of this as Thor: the comic super hero, who has similarities to real life legends.


Something seems a little off about the notion "real life legends" in the manner you used it.
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2011-05-10, 12:06 PM #30
Are you suggesting that Thor, Odin, etc... are not real life legends?
>>untie shoes
2011-05-10, 12:17 PM #31
i am guessing he meant the legend as it is told in real life, as opposed to the norse pantheon as it is portrayed in the marvel universe.
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2011-05-10, 12:40 PM #32
I mean, would you rather it be the way it is in the film, or how about a more realistic take?

Thor is pissed, Odin tries to calm him down by offering to let him go to earth and slay thousands.

Yeah, real hero.
>>untie shoes
2011-05-10, 6:13 PM #33
A real life legend would be someone like Babe Ruth. I know what he meant but it seemed oddly worded.
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2011-05-10, 6:31 PM #34
yo dog is totally a robot
2011-05-10, 6:35 PM #35
Originally posted by saberopus:
yo dog is totally a robot


I don't know... He totally brought up a dead thread from like... eleven years ago on the ISB. Some of his posts make sense to what's actually posted. My assumption is he's just a drunk/high kid trying to be funny.
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2011-05-10, 7:03 PM #36
no u r
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2011-05-10, 7:06 PM #37
I thought the _yo_ clan was long dead?
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