http://www.naturalnews.com/033454_Gibson_Guitar_armed_raid.html

http://landmarkreport.com/andrew/2011/08/ceo-of-gibson-guitar-a-republican-donor/

Discuss.

I like how the two articles referenced here seem designed to make this a partisan issue.



This invalidates everything you just posted.

Merely posting interesting tidbits. Rather then criticize you should contribute.

Sounds like a crapload of tinfoil going around. If they just ran in there and did **** like that without reason (eventually filing charges), Gibson would be able to sue like crazy, and win.

If Gibson has been raided and other manufacturers who use the same wood have not, it's obviously because Gibson did something illegal in the process of importing this wood, and the other manufacturers did not.

It seems that it's deemed illegal to import that wood and have it processed by American workers. Perhaps the other manufacturers are not doing that, and as such they have not been raided. I highly doubt the federal government is coming down on Gibson because the CEO is a Republican.

The only thing I don't like about this whole situation is the fact that they're supposedly not officially charged yet. I don't know what the time limit on doing that is, but hopefully it's extremely short.

so they got in trouble for doing something in the US that is illegal in India?

Cause suing the Federal Government always works!

Actually it does, rule of law and all that.

Aw, you're so young and naïve :3c

Gibson get raided by the FBI at least once a year and there was stuff a while back about them using some illegally imported madagascan wood or summat.

[And on the subject of their CEO, he's bat**** ****ing insane and slowly running the company into the ground.]

No, you can not assume that someone is guilty just because the feds are interested in them. Example : http://abcnews.go.com/US/west-memphis-three-freed-dna-evidence-feeds-doubts/story?id=14340244 You assume they are guilty when they are convicted in the court of law. Until then, they are presumed innocent.

Anyway, it amazes me how many people can be upset over these sort of things, when the feds exercise their stolen power, but still continue to vote for the same old politicians. This is just another reason to vote for Ron Paul.

And yeah, being raided in the US because you do something that's illegal in India isn't going to fly. There's only two outcomes here. Either the feds have some big charge they're going to lay on them, or Gibson is going to sue the **** out of them. Unfortunately, they will never get their material back. Once it's taken by the police, it's gone. Forever. Remember, this is the country where if your car is stolen, and then used to commit a crime, and then recovered by the police, you don't get your car back. The police auction it instead.

It's possible, yes. The US claims universal jurisdiction. IIRC there's something in the USC that references other countries' endangered species laws, but I don't remember the exact law.

Edit: 16 USC § 3372: "It is unlawful for any person to import, export, transport, sell, receive, acquire, or purchase in interstate or foreign commerce any plant taken, possessed, transported, or sold in violation of any law or regulation of any State, or any foreign law, that protects plants or that regulates ... the taking of plants without, or contrary to, required authorization."

So, yeah, if Gibson's method of importing this wood breaks Indian law, they are also breaking US law.

Tinfoil much? You act like there's never been a successful lawsuit against the government. Besides, due to this thing's publicity, if there was wrongdoing, it'll be even easier.

Of course, that's assuming this is even the case. I'm skeptical.

well if we stretch the definition of finished... they could hire some Indian workers to take a cloth and wipe it across the completed fingerboards