I'm sorry I keep asking for homework idea help, so this is the last time, I promise but I've asked everyone in my class and other people in AP english and nobody knows what they're doing for this assignment either.

"Your mission for this assignment is to select 1 example of where the idea of justice as we have defined in this unit so far, was compromised. This example may relate to a current event, be from a literary source, come from a historical context or may involve a persson's life and actions (but not me or anyone I know since that would be biased). The situation is up to you."

I then have to do a bunch of stuff with it that I can handle on my own involving the arguments and use an argument style similar to blah blah blah blah and I won't ask for helo on that I can handle it. but I'm in DESPERATE need of ideas on the topic. Help me and I'll love you forever. please?

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If there is a 50% chance that you are going to be right, there is a 90% chance that you will choose the wrong one ~SithNazgul, the 50-50-90 rule

I don't know what you've discussed so far in your class, so I don't know how much help I could be. What are the broad themes or types of justice you talked about?

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

Well... how was justice defined in your unit?

Given that topic, I'd probably write about the McCarthy-era communist tribunals... because that was so ridiculous you'd easily be able to make a strong argument.

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Well, we never actually came up with a "definition" but we've looked a passages from Orwells "Shooting and Elephant", "To Kill a Mockingbird", "Native Son", "The Declaration of Independence", some MLK pieces and the Durst Trial.

actually, eventhough it says "How we've discussed in class," the assignment leaves our definition of justice open to interpretation, I explain the sides and what not in part of the assignment. If it'll help I'll tell you what I have to do for the rest of it.

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If there is a 50% chance that you are going to be right, there is a 90% chance that you will choose the wrong one ~SithNazgul, the 50-50-90 rule

I consider myself more educated about crime and justice than most other laymen, but this sounds more like you have to come up with a thesis on justice from what you've read.

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Section 1: A basic explanation of the example. put your example in context.

Section 2: You will address the argument and counter argument surrounding the example. Each case has 2 sides and though you are arguing that an injustice has occurred, explain the situation objectively relating both arguments

Section 3: Report the decision/outcome of your exapmle. What was the injustice that occurred or how was justice compromised

Section 4: Construct a personal response to the example you have just explained. Do you agree with the argument or counter argument? Make a case for your viewpoint using style of argumentation similar to:

Lee
Wirght
Jefferson
King
Orwell
Shakespere
(pick one obviously)

CygnusX: that sounds like a good idea, something I could work with. thank ye kindly

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If there is a 50% chance that you are going to be right, there is a 90% chance that you will choose the wrong one ~SithNazgul, the 50-50-90 rule

They should at least provide for the possibility that you don't think justice was compromised..."as we have defined in this unit" is a pretty weak qualifier.

Uh, no help though, sorry.
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[This message has been edited by Tracer (edited January 06, 2004).]

You could look at the law in Apartheid S.Africa. If you get hold of some of the scripts from trials you'll get plenty of examples of injustice, although, according to the laws at the time, it was perfectly legitimate. You could argue that these are cases of injustice in the face of "natural justice", as opposed to political bindings and legal technicalities.

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That's a good idea too, MLK said in something I read that it is someone's duty to abide by just laws and peacefully go against unjust laws, so I could use his writing style as well (though I don't like using biblical allusions and he's big on that)

[edit] so far it's between the McCarthy era and the book, The Crucible. (which is kind of interesting, since the Crucible was an allegory for the McCarthy trials)

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If there is a 50% chance that you are going to be right, there is a 90% chance that you will choose the wrong one ~SithNazgul, the 50-50-90 rule

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You could talk about the main character in the Crucible, forgot his name, but he dies at the end, how he wasnt willing to compromise his beliefs of morality and justice in order to save his own life in a corrupt society.

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<3 Crucible.


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If you're looking at Justice, the best place to look would probably be Plato's The Republic, considering that defining justice is the whole point of his exercise in that writing.

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Thanks for the ideas guys, I've decided to do the crucible because I'm familiar with it and it's due tomorow (that was inspired by the idea to look at McCarthyism) but, I'll look at The Republic on my own time. Thanks again!

*huggles*

PS: can anyone think of counter argument for the Crucible? I can see why justice wasn't served, but how could one argue for the events? maybe I could say something about how Proctor still wasn't an angel, he'd had an affair with Abagial (wow, I still remeber the names!)...?

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If there is a 50% chance that you are going to be right, there is a 90% chance that you will choose the wrong one ~SithNazgul, the 50-50-90 rule

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I remember when I was supposed to give an oral presentation on the Crucible.

I accidentally said cubicle and everyone laughed at me.

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lmao well I did the crucible last year, and my teacher beat that book into the ground. Talk about beating a dead horse. But that's th reason I decided to use it for this paper.

I just realized that aside from step 4 (the personal response in a form similar to some of history's best writers), I also have to make a personal response to my personsal response say how it was like another person's writing...bad times

still kind of stuck on the counterargument though.

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If there is a 50% chance that you are going to be right, there is a 90% chance that you will choose the wrong one ~SithNazgul, the 50-50-90 rule

Ok, this quote I have is a great example of what they did to that poor book, The Crucible. (Sugy and I go to the same school system)

"You're just beating a dead horse here. No... beating a dead horse is one thing... what you're doing it is sort of tripping the horse, running it over with a truck, backing up and running it over several more times, getting out and beating the carcass with a shovel, then watching as the shovel cries."

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