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Why is the word hate so much easier to say than its converse
2004-01-07, 1:12 PM #1
Hello, fellow -ians...

I've been around massassi for quite some time, back since I ever first heard of a map called JHS, but anyways, that's besides the point. I'm not sure how many of you know me, but I figured, you could all still give advice.

The title basically gives a hint to what I want to talk about..Love. I've known this girl for a year and a half now, and we've been pretty good friends. We're both 16, and share some of the same interests. Just yesterday, in World History, I was looking at her, watching her, while supposed to be paying attention to some video. I was staring at her beautiful hair and face, realising that, after I thought about it, I loved her. Everything about her, from the scar on her forhead, down to her toes. We're both about the same height, and to me it seems like we're made for each other.

There are a few differences, though, between us. She's more social, in the fact that she's had more experience dating, with having probobly 5 or so boyfriends. I have only had truly one girlfriend. She's really a great girl and I could spend hours talking about her.

Now here's the deal, the other day, at the end of school, we talked. I asked her how her holidays were, and we got into talking, exchanging events that happened over the holidays. Then, she randomly asked me when I last went out with a girl. This striked me as an odd question, and kind of out of place. I didn't really know what to think when she asked me this, I didn't know if that was good or bad. I told her it was about a year ago. She then asked how long, I told her two months. She told me that was a pretty long time, then she told me the longest she went out was 3 or so. After that, we walked downstairs togather, and then I told her bye.

The reason I don't jump at her right away and ask her out is because of two things, really.
1) We're friends, and I wouldn't want to ruin a friendship if she told me no, or something of that sort.
2) We're in High School, and it's the second semester already. Next year we go off to Senior High, and she's going to the East school, and I'm going to the West school. (because of location or something) And if we wound up getting slpit up, school wise, then I'd have a feeling it probobly wouldn't work out, because she'd be in a school with a bunch of guys she didn't know and stuff.

So if anyone, here, has had the time or patience to read all this, and could just give me some advice, I'd be really grateful. Anything really is appreciated at this point. I don't know really what to do. Thanks, guys.

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2004-01-07, 1:20 PM #2
I think you solved your own problem. Like you said nobody likes to ruin a good friendship by dateing them. You could always ask "What do you think of me? Like as a friend or something else..I just need to know" something like that.

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2004-01-07, 2:50 PM #3
Seriously, just date her. It will be a good experience for the both of you and ya, you might be going to different schools, but by that time you could drive and if your relationship is worth anything she wont be running around with other guys.

You obviously want to, and she does to.

Sorry, dont mean to pull a PageWizard.

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2004-01-07, 3:08 PM #4
no, pulling a Pagewizard would be telling him not to ever bother being friends with a girl because you won't be getting sex out of it.

don't know what to tell you, both sides bring up valid conerns and what not... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif] good luck

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2004-01-07, 3:14 PM #5
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Schming:
Sorry, dont mean to pull a PageWizard.

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2004-01-07, 3:14 PM #6
It's not hard for me, I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU I LOVE YOU!

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2004-01-07, 3:17 PM #7
I love you to monoxide.. wanna go to a movie or something?

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2004-01-07, 4:42 PM #8
I have no problem saying Love. I say it all the time. I don't see why it should be so hard. That is, if you really feel it. :P

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2004-01-07, 4:44 PM #9
I have no trouble saying love in fact my girl doesn't tell me thing because she is worried I'll freak out because their so mushy. The truth is I love mushy romantic love things.
2004-01-07, 4:47 PM #10
Love... GAH! GASP!... HATE [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]
2004-01-07, 4:56 PM #11
If this person is truly your friend, you shouldn't date them. My best friend and I dated for a while, and it went really well for about a month. However, the differences between us made the relationship very awkward (such as the fact that she's 21 and I'm 17), and any time we spent together where other people were around was very nerve-wracking. I realized I love her, and she loves me, but that love is more a protective love than a romantic one. I think it's easy for friends to mistake these types of loves, and that's what we did. Even now, we're still not back to where we used to be, even though we haven't dated in a while. Don't risk it, especially if you're only 16. If you're both 35 and single some day, then maybe you should consider a relationship of a different kind.
2004-01-07, 5:00 PM #12
35? That's really old..

I say proceed with caution. Like others have said, you don't want to ruin a good friendship, but go with what Roggy said, but don't bring it up out of the blue. See if you can kinda manuver back into that general area beforehand. *shrug* Love is like a good game of Starcraft.

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2004-01-07, 5:04 PM #13
That's not love, Dark__Knight, that's a crush.

What Schming said, go for it.

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2004-01-07, 5:07 PM #14
Well, either you ask her out or you stay friends. There isn't much more to say

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2004-01-07, 5:09 PM #15
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by happydud:
Love is like a good game of Starcraft.</font>


That's so beautiful it brings a tear to my eye.

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2004-01-08, 6:20 AM #16
Noting how many boyfriends someone has had as an indication of how social they are is akin to checking how many times someone's gone to the hosptial for strep as an indication of how good their life insurance is.. or something..


As to hate vs love.. Well..
I refer one to this chart:
Code:
             labial  lab-dnt   dental  alv   alv-pal  velar  glottal

stop           p b                     t d             k g     

fricative              f v     th th   s z    sh zh             h

affricate                                     ch j

approximant      w                     r l       y   

nasal            m                       n               ng

From this site of liquid linguistic sex: http://www.zompist.com/kitlong.html

As you can see, H is a glottal fricative consenant, effectively [as one of my friends and i hope to campaign for] just a voiced vowel, and T is an alveolar stop, just hitting your tongue against the gums behind your upper teeth.

Now looking at love, one can see that L is an alveolar approximant, by that meaning that to voice it one needs to partially close one's teeth and tongue the aforementioned upper gums, this involves more than a little more coordination and effort than H mind you. Then V is the real killer, being a labio-dontal fricative, which involves both teeth tongue and lips, lips being needed to close enough to impede the air-stream enuogh to cause thhe friction to produce the V sound between the fronts of your teeth and your lips, this is quite a task if you think about it.

Then tack on the difference in complication between A and O [just try voicing them a few times, O is definitely more complex].

So all things considered, it really shouldn't be surprising that Hate is easier to say than Love..

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2004-01-08, 6:36 AM #17
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Spork:
That's not love, Dark__Knight, that's a crush.
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Crush can very easily turn into love.
But I don't think you should seek taking the relationship beyond friendship unless the feelings you have for her are returned.

Otherwise go for it, but stay alert.
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2004-01-08, 9:09 AM #18
*strides in with fireworks going off around him. He walks to the stage and opens his arms and his assistant takes his billowing cape off. He speaks in a deep, booming voice* I am god of all having to do with meeting women and dating. You may all rise from your groveling as I will impart great knowledge upon my nerdy followers! Now, this man's problem is simple. I could go on about his misconceptions on a few things, but that is not what the problem is. Concerning this girl: you say you will probably be seperated from her later on. I sayth you go for her. Relationships your age aren't supposed to last long anyway. Live life. But be cautioned: the chances of you actually becoming more involved with this girl is slim. It seems you have been friends with this young lady for a long time, and that is the valley of shadow of almost no return. Do not get your hopes up. You missed your chance to truly get involved with her a long time ago. It is probably better to forget about her and look at other women. Follow my teachings and that of my outspoken, immensely tactless, and ritualistically crucified prophet, Pagewizard. Follow my teachings, and you shall be led, along with my other nerd worshippers, to the promised land of women! I have spoken! *puts out his arms and his assisstant puts his cloak on. he walks towards the curtain and disappears in a puff of smoke.*

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2004-01-08, 9:20 AM #19
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by clan ruthervain:
Crush can very easily turn into love....</font>


Ahh yes, love. Unrequited love, sure. Love returned with bitter hatred, sometimes. Love returned with restraining orders, rarely, but it does happen... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2004-01-08, 9:23 AM #20
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GBK:
Ahh yes, love. Unrequited love, sure. Love returned with bitter hatred, sometimes. Love returned with restraining orders, rarely, but it does happen... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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Experience?

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2004-01-08, 9:27 AM #21
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Zuljin:
Experience?</font>


Yes, how did you guess? [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2004-01-08, 9:30 AM #22
Just dumb luck, I guess.

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2004-01-08, 10:22 AM #23
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra and then suddenly, it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.</font>

'nuff said.

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2004-01-08, 10:28 AM #24
<3 Dormouse. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2004-01-08, 10:31 AM #25
Hold a second, are you boasting about it?

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