In the Iowa caucus today, Kerry won with 38% of the vote, Edwards got 32%, while Howard Dean came up with a pithy 12%. What is the deal? Wasn't he the frontrunner?
Yikes.

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I went to a restaurant that serves "breakfast at any time". So I ordered French Toast during the Renaissance.
-Steven Wright

The Dean Machine was running Windows ME.

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You're entering a world of pain.

People came to their senses.

Media frontrunner. That's about it. It really doesn't matter who gets the Democrat nod, though. They really don't have a shot until 2008. I almost feel sorry for them.

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Kerry is the only candidate I saw with substance. He seemed honest and open to me. Probably due to the fact that he's also incredibly ugly and has nothing to lose.

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The Media, being arrogant types, don't like people to be more popular them.

Despite the fact that they were the ones who launched Dean out of the depths of obscurity they decided that his 15 minutes were up, and they had just enough of this Dean character.

He even tried to tell the Media what to do.

They can't have that.

So they killed him.

*I think a recent Obviousman Non-Sequiter explained this better than I could*


But seriously, I think that Dean being a nattering nabob of negativism hurt him.

People expect him to be mean to the President, but dissing Kerry for not voting on an agriculture Bill that he did vote on,and telling a member of a town hall meeting to "sit down" and shut up when Dean was blasted for being negative damaged his image.

It's just a popularity contest anyway.
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"It would be highly appreciated if someone would set the bomb up for us"


[This message has been edited by Janitor Bob (edited January 19, 2004).]

Lowsy Democrats...they're trying to get elected by saying everything sucks and that they hate everything including George Bush. Would they rather have Saddam Hussein in power? or rather Saddam Hussein as THEIR president? I think that Americans are tired of Democrats bickering (I sure am)

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I like Kerry. It's high time we finally have a REALLY ugly president, just like the good old days.

Remember the days of radio?

Remember Taft?

Remember John Quincy Adams?

Well, neither do I, but my "American Pageant" history book makes me go all tingly with nostalgia anyway.

(Just as long as we don't get Clark. He changes his views more than Gollum performing Hamlet. And his Abortion position is as bad as Dean's)
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"Your entire base belongs to us."

"It would be highly appreciated if someone would set the bomb up for us"

[This message has been edited by Janitor Bob (edited January 19, 2004).]

Look, I'm right with you that the Democrats are too negative, but that's just goddamn absurd. That's about as absurd as when people compare Bush to Hitler.

For once, sine and I agree on something.

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When bread becomes toast, it can never go back to being bread again.

But not quite. Especially in reference to Dean, with all of his comments about Hussein o_O

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I'm starting to believe that, to be a good president, you don't have to know anything about politics. Rather, you just have to not be a greedy dick. I'd be happy with a president that's just "fine", it would be better than a president who's "**** everything up and make people hate America".

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.

No no no. Don't do that. That was utterly baseless and stupid. *sigh* This is why politics is slowly becoming distasteful to me. Right attacks Left. Left attacks Right. I'm over that, really.

About Dean. Dean was propped up by the media. I've heard nothing but Dean, Dean, Dean, since 2003. It seems like the other 8 candidates were insignificant. This actually does show that people do read up on the actual character than just what some beau/belle on TV spouts off. If Dean wants to keep his "frontrunner" status, he'd better make A LOT of changes.


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When bread becomes toast, it can never go back to being bread again.

LMFAO!

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First off, American politics has a HUGE deal with money, and since Dean had raised the most, it was *assumed* he was the front-runner. Kerry is the man. I've liked him ever since I read his health care policies. He's a Nor'easter like me, taking care of the country in the Senate, has prior experiance, and I LIKE his face. I'd vote on replacing his face on the 50 dollar bill. Damn straight, he's got a face for paintings and statues.

Second, F-Body, you don't know what you're talking about. Read their positions, see what THEY are saying, not through the simplified media garbage, and then play your video games while the elders amongst us vote.

Third, I am surprised and excited that someone started this topic. YAY!!!!

KERRY IN 04!

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AIM: MaxisReed
ChatOp, EC administrator, and "some sort of god!"

...but, seriously folks, can you tell me that Howard Dean isn't joyously entertaining to watch?

Yay... I guess, while I still dont like Kerry, I like him more than Dean, so.. yay.. I guess

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Happy "Diseased" dud: You said I'd be like this guy. Boycotting everything..
Happy "Diseased" dud: ted kazcnisky. That's who it was.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wait, That's the unibomer.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wrong guy.

Ever since dean started his weblog, the news channels and sites have been going crazy about how he's "embracing technology to win the election" -- HELLO!? The media sucks, we all know that. I don't think he's entertaining to watch, either. It's like listening to a 4 year old cry about his broken toy.

*walks in*
Uh-Oh, politics
*backs away slowly*

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Light And Darkness

what the heck is a moderator doing on this board? i dont see any on the Bears message board....

Dean is as much of an idiot as Bush.

Some of the things he said are ridiculous ("I still want to be the candidate for guys with Confederate flags in their pickup trucks."), his constant outrages embarrassing and he generally does not sound like a very intelligent man.

Then, of course, you have Bush and the Republicans, with their overly conservative, church-going, Jesus blabbering, pickup driving mentality. Combine that with the fact that the majority of Republicans seem to think Bush is god's gift to earth (hint: get a reality check) and it becomes very difficult to consider myself a Republican.

In conclusion, American politics suck and I might or might not be moving to Canada.

[This message has been edited by KnobZ (edited January 20, 2004).]

Dean sounded like Vince McMahon from the WWF when the results came in,,

Get with the times, dude. WWF = Wolrd Wildlife Fund

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

I like when you call me dude,,,,dude

learn how to spell dduuudddee

Why do you do that, joren

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Of war, we don't speak anymore

That's why Bush is still getting my vote.

Meh, Dean is the absolute biggest idiot in politics today.

I want Bush to win, but if a Democrat had to win, I'd go with Clark, because he seems the most moderate of the Democrats.

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Interesting Fact: Ivan the Terrible ordered an elephant executed because it failed to bow for him.

I know what this thread needs... A copy of that "Hussien for President" image...

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The future is here, and all bets are off.

Dean looks like he is going to explode when you see him. He needs anger management. And the capture of Saddam really ****ed him over.

I saw a thing on Edwards and he seems pretty cool. I still wish Lieberman was winning.

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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." - John Stuart Mill

[This message has been edited by Kieran Horn (edited January 20, 2004).]

Okay, people. I know the "Dean = teh supar lamer" meme has wrapped itself around your collective brainstems like an emotionally-dependant lemur, but does anybody have a opinion that isn't based entirely on subjective personal impressions? Maybe something wrong with his politics?

In other news, I'd vote for Kerry.

Joke I heard from somewhere:
John Kerry Walks into a bar, and the bartender says, "Hey, why the long face?"

heh I guess that wasnt really funny,
But what baffles me when candidates (usually Democrats in this situation) claim to be Christian, but approve abortion?
Do you have any idea of HOW abortions are performed?!?! Even nonchristians would say that is wrong...
I could name some animals that are more civilized than humans geesh

[EDIT]By the way, to people who are as quick as Democrats to unleash their "FLAME" Yes I am able to vote!

[This message has been edited by F-Body (edited January 20, 2004).]

John Quincy Adams... hehehe...

He was practically neutered when he got into office with that whole scandal that got him there. That's why Jackson kicked his arse.

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Frightening the very small and very old since 1952.

Emon, you hit the nail on the head.

And everyone, I am really sorry for unleashing Jimmy into the rank and file of Massassi.



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*Joren, Legend, Alleged Egomaniac, Thread-Killer, 2-time Ban Recipient, and 6th Grade Spelling Champ*

That just wasn't fuuny

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I'm not an actor. I just play one on TV.

I haven't got that, but I do have this.



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Frogblast the Vent Core!

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