http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news/2004-03-29-classic-rock-kids_x.htm

Great article. Restores my faith somewhat of the youth of America. Somewhat.

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I've listened to classic rock since I was a kid

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This might be better suited for the Music Forum.

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Oh yeah, kinda forgot we had one.

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I shall move it Jeff

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about DAMN time they stopped listening to crap like linkin park, limp bizkit, and simple plan...

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Jamie Horton... I SALUTE YOU

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That's good, but I'm sick of people thinking that the only good music in the 70's were Floyd or Zepplin or Queen. There's so many other good bands from that era, like Big Star. The kids are just listening to the music that everyone else listens to from that time period.

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Because there is a lot of it and doesn't involve much searching... especially for me, we have every Queen, Zep, Beatles, Floyd & Doors album downstairs.

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Drugs & Stupidity, Tons of it.

Modern music is in such a sorry state compared to classic rock and oldies. I listen to modern hip-hop, and I just dont feel the effort and emotion that was put into music 20 or more years ago.

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You know what... I bet this relates to the drops in record sales that the RIAA is reporting. Kids aren't buying modern albums because they suck, and are turning to older music. That article states that sales of older music from one catalog are actually up as much as 17% over last years sales.

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yay for closed minded musical intolerance!

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Lets get one thing straight, not ALL of modern rock is crap. If that's what you think, you need a new radio station.

That said, I listen to both classic and modern rock. Over a third of my playlist is classic rock. Another third is independent stuff I started getting from friends recently, and the last third is the more modern stuff.

DSettahr has it right. Modern rock just isn't anywhere near as good as the oldies. I'd say that if the oldies were a 10, 80% of modern rock would be about a 5 or a 6. The remaining 20%, to me, comes in at about 8. Very , VERY rarely, maybe 3% out of that 20% can come in at about 9 or 10.

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I have always loved classic rock, but i also love Modern rock, its not that hard to like both, i don't see why some people take a time period or genre and just listen to JUST that and say everything else sucks..


I mean, i have listened to pop, R&B, ect. ect. and i can truly say that i really don't like any of those genres, save for a artists.



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One person simply liking classic rock shouldn't really restore your faith in America. Personally I don't think its that much of a big deal - tons of people already listen to classic rock - a few of them in this thread. (I'm not one of them)

As for Modern rock being not so good as classic - I couldn't say because I didn't grow up with classic rock and I think what you grow up with affects you a lot.


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Sweet irony...

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...And what's wrong with Queensryche anyway?

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You shouldn't judge music by the decade it was made in. There's plenty of music today that's as good as the stuff back then, you're just not looking hard enough if you can't find it.

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I like old music, but not that old. I like Black Sabbath And Metallica, Pantera, Slayer - and I'd hate it if all that bands where so old that I couldn't see em live!

Additionaly there are a lot of smaller bands that rock, like Moldy Peaches. Than we have new stuff like the White Stripes that is rather cool new rock. The Hives... and much more.
And if you don't like any of it, go on and make your own! Old stuff gets boring if you listen to it excusively.
There are often local bands that are realy cool, have a look at em.

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A point about the White Stripes:

Anyone who thinks that they suck or compared to the classic rock gods, Jack White IS better than SRV and probably anyone else he has said he's better than. It's the truth. I saw the White Stripes live and Jack White was ****ing amazing.

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I just don't think they sound very good.

I love you dry gear.

I kinda get sick of all of this oldie stuff. "Classic rock or die" is the impression I get all the time, and it's really ignorant. The way I see it... people think they are superior to the people who listen to modern rock, but they are exactly the same way. Led Zeppelin was the Linkin Park of the 60s; everybody listened to them. All of those classic bands were started the same reason today's popular bands were started... money.

Also, it's common sense; music evolves and progresses, so logically new music is going to sound a whole lot better, technically and musically. The only reason I can see people loving old stuff is for nostalgia, which is cool. I've listened to "classics" all the time, and there is just so much better stuff. Just like what dry gear said, you just have to find it.

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I still think there is a point to be made though about modern albums having only one or two good songs, and the rest being filler to validate the 20 dollar price tag.

Also, I wouldnt be surprised in the least if the majority of popular modern music groups werent widely listened to 20 or more years from now. I agree that yes there probably is some modern music that is just as good, but it has yet to proove itself against the test of time in the way popular classic rock has.

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Good, then I suppose he'll have no problem playing a Dream Theater song.


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Well that might not be true about all artists. The artists still have a good degree of control over what goes on the CD, and some of them prefer to take more time and work up a high quality product.

But then, I can't say I've really bought any albums recently... or at all!

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Have you seen SRV live? If no, then dont compare them. I highly doubt he has the skill of SRV, or Jimi. If he does, ill have to catch a concert

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Yea, Jack White being compared to either of those two is ridiculous. Same with him being above Eddie Van Halen on the top 100 guitar player list let alone being on it at all. I will have to listen to him live though to see what im missing, although i saw him at the grammies live but i dont suppose that counts.

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Please... Just because this article is written doesn't mean that as of two days ago, there was a boost of record sales. This has been going on four countless years. All my friends listen to classic rock, and have since they became serious about music.



You grossly generalize. There are tons of bands out there now with tons of integrity. Pearl Jam, Coldplay, Counting Crows, Radiohead, REM, Red Hot Chili Peppers. They have not yet struggled to face the test of time because they have not been around for long enough.

You all totally glorify the 60s and 70s. Its not like every single song released from 1960 to 1979 was awesome, and once the 80s came it sucked. Listen to some of Zeppelin's "In Through the Out Door". Total crap on that album, with some exceptions which actually make good use of a synthesizer. However, the point I make is that not every song written in the 60s and 70s has survived to the 21st century. Tons of crap music was released in those years, and I'd like to see anyone argue that.

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I won't argue it, but I personally feel that the music back then had SO much more actual content to it. At least the stuff I've been listening to has.

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I have to back you up, except I have no idea who SRV is. I haven't seen them live, but have heard plenty of people testify to Jack White's ability. From what I hear he mostly does slide guitar.

Whelly: Yep, you've hit the nail on the head with the second paragraph. With the third one, I have to point out that we can remaster old music pretty well.
I hate the label Classic Rock. It's a pretty narrow genre despite being the year it was in. Some more 60's/70's bands that aren't classic rock but are awesome:
Velvet Underground
Lou Reed
David Bowie
The Stooges
The New York Dolls
Spirit
*early punk bands*
Syd Barrett
Tom Waits
Alex Chilton
The Stranglers

Why does classic rock ignore all these people? Because it's a very narrow genre that's basically manufactured and presented in the same way as modern rock for teenagers.


I keep hearing people say this, but I've never experienced it. Maybe you just need to listen to better modern music. Can you give an example of when this has happened to you?


The vast majority of popular music 20 years ago has been forgotten.



Yeah, because we all know that any good guitarist has to play metal style.


See my response to the other posts on this topic.

Eversor: You speak the truth.

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eh, you are arguing which of them has better guitar skills? Did I understand that right?

They are all great! If I had only the half of the skill of the worst...

Who cares how good they play their guitar anyway? That's rocknroll and not some classic music, For me in Rock the feeling counts, Sex drugs and Rocknroll !!

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An example of a good guitar player would be one who could play everything, fast or slow, rock or punk. From what ive seen, and i have seen him live, Jack White would not be capable of playing a Dream Theater solo let alone song. Sure, his slide stuff sounds nice and crazy, but an overall best guitar player, no.



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I'm fine with him being a specialist in one area and not a jack of all trades.

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well then we are both right.

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One who would be good at all? Is that possible?

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Okay, that was completely ignorant.

Dream Theater is -NOT- metal, it's progressive rock, and this is NOT the same thing at all. You see, it so happens that John Petrucci is one of the best guitarists ever, up there with Steve Vai and Satriani (two other guitar players that don't play metal as you so fearfully say), Vai playing a mixture of shred guitar with a big funk/blues influence, while Satriani is an allround modern bluesman. YOU just assumed that because I was a general metal listener, my opinion was biased on the GENRE, and not the TALENT of the guy. And This I don't like.

Check your facts before you make irrelevent statements.

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