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Methinks I need to learn more riffs...
2004-07-14, 4:28 PM #1
For quite some time, all my impromptu guitar solos and riffs have been more or less the same. Sure, you could call that my personal style, but when I get bored with my own playing, it becomes a problem. So I need some suggestions for some songs with interesting riffs to learn and/or websites to teach some new riffs (preferrably the latter).

[And please don't suggest songs loaded down with swearing or about some guy and his ho'. I consider it crap regardless of the musical quality.]

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[This message has been edited by DogSRoOL (edited July 14, 2004).]
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2004-07-14, 4:31 PM #2
Rammstein! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2004-07-14, 4:58 PM #3
Baby Steps Thrawn.

You will all hate me but, Tourniquet.

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2004-07-14, 6:39 PM #4
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Thrawn42689:
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DogSRoOL:
...songs...</font>
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2004-07-14, 6:40 PM #5
Study jazz!

*runs*

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2004-07-14, 6:44 PM #6
Mmmmm.... no.
Not that I have anything against jazz. I just don't find it interesting.
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2004-07-14, 6:53 PM #7
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SAJN_Master:
You will all hate me but, Tourniquet.</font>
Oooooo!

Some of those riffs are things I already do.

[I like the song, but I really dislike the feeling I get after listening to it.]

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2004-07-14, 9:14 PM #8
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DogSRoOL:
Mmmmm.... no.
Not that I have anything against jazz. I just don't find it interesting.</font>


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2004-07-14, 10:49 PM #9
Radiohead has some really interesting riffs and solos.

Jimmy Page.... cant really go wrong with him.

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2004-07-15, 12:12 AM #10
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DogSRoOL:
Mmmmm.... no.
Not that I have anything against jazz. I just don't find it interesting.</font>


?

That's strange, because if I had to name one characteristic about jazz is that it's varied/interesting. That's not even a matter of personal taste. The number of substyles is demented, as in LARGE.

Of course you don't have to like it, but if anything, jazz IS objectively interesting.
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2004-07-15, 2:38 AM #11
Jazz can be anything, so long it fits the boundaries of jazz-style, and even then, you can roam and do whatever the **** you please.

Anyway, on to riffage... Iced Earth songs, namely, Wolf, Dante's Inferno, Angel's Holocaust, Stormrider. Stuff that will eventually get your rythm picking very sharp and regular, while being able to add that jumpy feeling.

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2004-07-15, 4:36 AM #12
Strapping Young Lad
The Mars Volta

I'm sorry that you can't see past swearing in music to recognise the actual musical quality... seems like a very very very strange take on music if I must say.

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2004-07-15, 6:31 AM #13
I'm talking about songs that just consist largely of swearing. I don't really have a problem with a song that uses it here or there.
That's why I said "...loaded down with swearing." [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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[This message has been edited by DogSRoOL (edited July 15, 2004).]
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2004-07-15, 9:08 AM #14
Blink 182. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/rolleyes.gif]
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2004-07-15, 10:22 AM #15
Learning Jazz is the single most bestest thing you can do to improve your soloing. And no, I'm not exaggerating at all. But if you don't find it interesting, it'd simply be a chore to learn. So....damn. G'luck! =D


Actually, if you spend some time memorizing scales/key signatures and practice appegios and a couple other exercises, you could improve your soloing and riffing a ton, too. This would be advisable against just learning more riffs from other bands, as it's actually applicable.
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2004-07-15, 10:47 AM #16
I know my scales. But playing impromptu requires a bit more than that. 90% of my playing is made up on-the-spot, so I need to have a bit more in my mind. The most successful technique for me is 'riff compilation'. If I try just using my knowledge of scales, it usually sounds horrid.

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[This message has been edited by DogSRoOL (edited July 15, 2004).]
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2004-07-15, 2:47 PM #17
Pie.

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2004-07-15, 3:36 PM #18
There's a couple things you can do. Play-along books (that come with CDs) in the style you like can be helpful. Personally though, I prefer this Band-in-a-Box program...you type in the changes to a song, pick the style, and it does a pretty good job of being a band.

There's two parts to getting better at improvising: knowing the theory and putting in the practise. If you're already knowledgable about music (or are super-talented) you just need to jam with other people or play against a recording of yourself.

If you have the motivation, you could just lift licks from good soloists.

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2004-07-15, 3:59 PM #19
Dante's Inferno. Eruption. That should keep you busy. unless your like a thousand times better than me.

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2004-07-15, 4:08 PM #20
oh and learn to play Cold from At the Gates. it has a good solo, some nice sounding riffs, and no cursing. But then again if your not into death metal you might not be able to undertsnad the lyrics at all.

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2004-07-15, 5:20 PM #21
Tracer, tell me about this band-in-a-box?

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2004-07-15, 7:08 PM #22
http://www.pgmusic.com/bandbox.htm

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2004-07-15, 8:04 PM #23
^Beat me to it.

I think it's pretty sweet (especially if you don't have a rhythm section that's better than you to jam with every day). It does a whole bunch of stuff I don't even use, or know how to use - I just enter in chord changes and go. It's got hundreds of styles (I use about three), and all sorts of other stuff. You can set it to take solos to, which is kind of fun/funny.

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2004-07-15, 9:39 PM #24
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I like the song, but I really dislike the feeling I get after listening to it.]</font>


Bad feeling? It's Christian rock for kak's sake. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

And the best rock EVER may I add.

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Think while it's still legal.
2004-07-16, 2:27 AM #25
Wow, this is really nice. I've been looking for a decent "jam program" for ages. thanks =D

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2004-07-16, 5:16 AM #26
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SAJN_Master:
Bad feeling? It's Christian rock for kak's sake. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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No kidding? I thought all the references to God and salvation and Christ meant something else.
I did some research on the band and discovered that they are no longer Christian. After having found that out, I don't get the feeling I was getting... which makes no sense. *shrug*
[grumble]Stupid feelings.[/grumble]

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For a healty meal, eat mashed potatoes, peas, and catloaf.
Valuable Life Lesson: Frog + Potato Gun = Blindness
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2004-07-16, 6:33 AM #27
Anywhere you read that says they aren't Christian, is a silly liar and a whore. They are still Christian, and they always will be. Their latest CD has psalms written all over it [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

My best friend knows the band personally and made there website [/end slight brag]

www.tourniquet.net

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Haggis: "For God's sake, snap out of it man! That bottle is empty! It's been empty since the first day we got to this godforsaken place and you drank it all! You're losing touch with reality!"
Otter stares at Haggis, a suspicious expression on his face.
Otter: "You just want my whiskey! I'm on to you!"

[This message has been edited by SAJN_Master (edited July 16, 2004).]
Think while it's still legal.
2004-07-16, 7:19 AM #28
Give me a moment, and I'll find the article.


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2004-07-16, 7:45 AM #29
Here we go:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story?id=5936155

[Language warning]

[This message has been edited by DogSRoOL (edited July 16, 2004).]
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2004-07-16, 8:10 AM #30
Bwahahah! I was talking about the band Tourniquet, not the song Tourniquet by Evanescence. Tehehehe. Looks like we were both confused!

Check out some REALLY good music www.tourniquet.net <-- yes, they are Christian rock. go to media you can listen to songs from every album!

As for some Tourniquet guirar riffs and tabs and what-have-you...

http://users3.ev1.net/~langs/tqt/all/archi.txt <-- Thats a good one IMO

http://users3.ev1.net/%7Elangs/tqt/tabs.htm <-- the full list.

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Haggis: "For God's sake, snap out of it man! That bottle is empty! It's been empty since the first day we got to this godforsaken place and you drank it all! You're losing touch with reality!"
Otter stares at Haggis, a suspicious expression on his face.
Otter: "You just want my whiskey! I'm on to you!"

[This message has been edited by SAJN_Master (edited July 16, 2004).]
Think while it's still legal.
2004-07-16, 8:26 AM #31
Bah. I searched for Tourniquet and Evanescence's song came up. I've seen them mentioned around here quite a few times, so I assumed...

Anyway, let me try this again...
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2004-07-16, 9:55 AM #32
DogSRoOL, what kind(s) of jazz have you heard? There might be some other types that you might like better.
2004-07-16, 10:42 AM #33
Red Hot Chili Peppers - the guitarist does amazing simple things that sound great.

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2004-07-16, 7:41 PM #34
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MaD CoW:
Red Hot Chili Peppers - the guitarist does amazing simple things that sound great.

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2004-07-16, 10:00 PM #35
You can build solos out of basic powerchord structures too. But it'll make you reliant on the box pattern.

I dont do riffs, I do vocal melodies.

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2004-07-17, 5:40 AM #36
I do both of those, too (although is most often based on double-bar chords).
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2004-07-17, 7:25 AM #37
....Burn your hand in a freak caravan accident and learn how to play with 3 fingers, then change your name to something cool like Mango Dienhardt.

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new album Between the Dim and the Dark available now
"Those ****ing amateurs... You left your dog, you idiots!"
2004-07-17, 9:01 AM #38
Yay! My "stretchability" has already increased. I can play across 5 of the smaller frets without straining myself or sliding. That'll make all those formerly impossible things I've tried much easier!

Maybe I'll post a little diddy later.

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2004-07-17, 4:27 PM #39
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Schming:
....Burn your hand in a freak caravan accident and learn how to play with 3 fingers, then change your name to something cool like Mango Dienhardt.

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Ha ha! 'Mango'!

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2004-07-18, 1:09 AM #40
Django's incredible man. 3 fingers and he plays some superfast runs. Humbled every time.

Check out some cool videos on http://www.about-django.com/news/videos/videos.php

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