And it's got to have a LOT of watts for under 1 grand.

So what do you recomend? (besides marshall)

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are you sure you actually NEED one?

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...no, sir, I WANT one.

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It took you two minutes to figure that out?

What kind of music do you play?

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i'm serious sound guys hate large amps because of the excessive stage volume... great for places where they don't mic the amps... but places where they do...

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Yeah they'll just make you turn it down so they can get a half-decent signal, and it sounds like crap when the tubes and speakers aren't driven, so...

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now for another point... if you do get a half stack look into getting a good attenuator so you can still drive the head and keep the volume levels managable

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I agree with the above.

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What kind of guitar do you have?
What kind of music do you play?
What sound do you like?
Where will you be playing?

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If you want loud for cheap, you could check for Peavy on eBay.

Otherwise, I'd suggest Hughes and Kettner - loud, great-sounding, and not too expensive. I don't know if you could get a half stack for under a grand, but you could easily get a 2x12 100W combo.

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Ditto on Peavy, but you should also check out an all-tube Fender combo. You can get some lines for under a grand.

Orange amps kick *** . A good head will cost you around $599 and the cabs are about the same price but... seriously they're awesome.

Marshalls, overrated and geared for metal and punk for the most part.

I'm happier just playing out of a combo amp anyday than a stack. As said above, cranking it up and using mics is better than not.


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I've tried out some Orange stacks, and they rocked totally. I could probably find a good stack for like $1,120 if I save up a little more.

Peavy or Fender would probably be my second choices, though I'd probably choose Fender since I like the sound more than Peavy's.

And I agree, Marshall's are sooo overrated.

To answere your question, I play mostly classic rock.

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Marshalls are not overrated or metal amps... the overrated metal amps are the triple rectifiers... i mean they are good amp but EVERYONE uses/wants to use them... me i really want a marshall but i also want [rather long list of amps here]

my first half stack will probably be Marshall 1960AV cabinet with a Randall RH200 head... now THAT is metal at it's most rude moment nothing but nasty aggressive "2METAL4U" tone...

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Randall amps kick *** . Disturbed ply with Randall amps if I remember right.

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I disagree with this. Since I got my peavey 5130 MkII stack I have played about 30 gigs, and not once has it been a problem for any sound guy, not to mention I have never heard from anyone else who plays live with a stack that it's a problem. Good venues usually use SM58 mics to mic up your quadbox - very capable mics. And they only mic up one speaker, not all 4, so it really makes no difference to the sound guy. Generally it's better for them, since if it's loud enough on stage, they wont have to put your guitar through the foldbacks.

trust me they don't say anything but they hate it... i know enough sound guys to hear what they say when the band can't hear them

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Interesting. My drummer is nearly finished his diploma in sound production, and has been mixing live bands at least once a month for the last 2 years, and he's never even hinted that they are a problem. His teachers and lecturers are all people who used to work in the industry, and if they told him, he would tell us. The guy who recorded our EP mixes bands live all the time, as well as records bands in studios as his bread and butter. He also plays in a band, and he, and his other guitarist both use stacks. Also, more than half the bands we play with will be using stacks. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I am saying from my experience and the people I hang around with at live venues, bands members etc, that I find what you're saying a little difficult to believe.

Gallen-Kreuger makes a good amp. I am probably misspelling, but I am also going to bed as soon as I click "Submit Reply."