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Writing Lyrics
2004-08-23, 12:36 PM #1
Anyone have any tips on writing lyrics? Like the form and rhyming things and stuff. I'm trying to write a song, but the way it rhymes just ends up being corny.

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2004-08-23, 12:52 PM #2
I have that problem too. :[

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2004-08-23, 1:46 PM #3
As a crystal anchor weighing, pulling
A demon's halo crowns my head
Trying to stay in complication
A siren caller finds my bed

With hands like razors,
I break her for my own
And a soul that yearns for reparation
Finds respite in her bones

Oozing from these thousand wounds
With razored hands to aggravate
Itching leaves me naught but skin
And scars to contemplate


Rhyming sucks. (I was going to quote something I wrote that didn't have rhyming, but then I decided to just rub it in your face that I can rhyme and you can't [just kidding I really suck])

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2004-08-23, 2:22 PM #4
If you can't make it rhyme (and be satisfied with it) don't bother making it rhyme. Just write honest lyrics, honest. Don't use any words you don't mean. This of course will also depend on the style of music for which these lyrics are intended. For example (in my opinion) rap lyrics that have no rhythm and rhyme will probably make up a pretty crappy song.
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2004-08-23, 2:25 PM #5
yeah you don't always have to rhyme all the time

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2004-08-23, 3:11 PM #6
I see
Is there a way to make lyrics flow better then?

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mir·ow ( V ) Pronunciation Key (meer-oh)
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2004-08-23, 3:32 PM #7
Try to tell a story through your lyrics. only split the lines once you adapt them to a song. at least, that's how I work.

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2004-08-23, 4:35 PM #8
In songs the words don't really flow on their own, a lot comes from how they're sung.
You could practice writing lyrics to famous songs. That might help.

I have the opposite problem from you. I can write lyrics and come up with a tune, but I can't write the music.
I'll post some lyrics of mine. It's a love song about a guy, even though I'm straight.

It's called The Dayne of My Existance

Dayne Dayne Dayne Dayne Dayne
Now you've gone and done it again
You've broken my heart
You hearted my broken
I'm a fish and you're water and without you I'm choking

Chorus
Oh I thought that I had died
When I think I saw you look in my eyes
Yes I think that I could die
Every time you don't look in my eyes

Do you remember when we met?
T'was years ago but I can't forget
Working at a 7-11
And in you walked
I gave you too much change when you bought yourself a cake
But you counted it all and the cash you didn't take
You gave me back the money just for my own sake

And that's when I fell in love

*back to chorus*

Well I saw you today
And I thought that it was time
I was thinking of what to say
To declare my love undying
But you walked away
Maybe you just didn't hear

I had my foot in the door but you slammed it on me

*back to beginning, then end*

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2004-08-23, 4:40 PM #9
Cliche lyrics aren't necesarily bad either. Some people gobble that crap up. I've had comments about my lyrics about how they are so 'deep and meaningful' and 'brilliant' and how they can 'see my message' truth is I just write it for the hell of it, I don't even intend any message, but people usually find them anyway.

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2004-08-23, 6:18 PM #10
Cliche lyrics aren't good, who cares if some whiny teens eat it up, but it still sucks? Please do us a favor, dont write about how your girlfriend left you, or how you want to take your razorblade fingers and slice up your heart(or someone elses :P).

Write poetry, write GOOD poetry, then make a song out of it. It doesn't neccesarily need to rhyme, you can still make a song without rhyming. That should always help.

Once you get the hang of it, continue through there if you want to go into a differnt style of writing, but please, meaningful lyrics are a lot of what writing good lyrics are.

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2004-08-23, 6:34 PM #11
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SAJN_Master:
Cliche lyrics aren't necesarily bad either. Some people gobble that crap up. I've had comments about my lyrics about how they are so 'deep and meaningful' and 'brilliant' and how they can 'see my message' truth is I just write it for the hell of it, I don't even intend any message, but people usually find them anyway.

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That's good. I'm sick of people who try too hard to be deep and try to get everyone to think that they are.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Cliche lyrics aren't good, who cares if some whiny teens eat it up, but it still sucks? Please do us a favor, dont write about how your girlfriend left you, or how you want to take your razorblade fingers and slice up your heart(or someone elses :P).

Write poetry, write GOOD poetry, then make a song out of it. It doesn't neccesarily need to rhyme, you can still make a song without rhyming. That should always help.

Once you get the hang of it, continue through there if you want to go into a differnt style of writing, but please, meaningful lyrics are a lot of what writing good lyrics are.</font>

There's nothing wrong with writing lyrics that don't have much depth, especially if you're having fun with it. For example, the lyrics I posted would make horrible poetry (using a fish that would die out of water as a metaphor), but I think they make decent lyrics.

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All you need is love.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-08-23, 7:12 PM #12
All I want to do at the moment is write a song about playing Dungeons and Dragons... yeah

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mir·ow ( V ) Pronunciation Key (meer-oh)
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2004-08-23, 7:55 PM #13
Awesome!

Votimor the halfling enters the dungeon
The Dungeon Master says that there appear some wild mice
I say, "well then, his head I will bludgeon!"
And so I roll the dice

My roll comes up short, my attack misses
DM throws the dice, the rat hits for 10
I open another Mountain Dew and it fizzes
And then... and then... and then...

I wish myself luck and the dice I now roll
Does no good but to make the swung sword whistle
After he attacks I use a scroll
And slay the villain with Magic Missle
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Whaddya think? I could probably do better if I spent more time on it, but you should be able to do at least as well as this. Go ahead and steal some of my rhymes, as long as you post the finished lyrics when you're done.

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All you need is love.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-08-23, 8:00 PM #14
Yay! I dont know if I'll use anything from yours, but yours gives me an example of something I could go by, thanks^^

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mir·ow ( V ) Pronunciation Key (meer-oh)
Someone or something that possesses unfathomable awesomeness
2004-08-23, 8:16 PM #15
I'm glad I could help [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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All you need is love.
It's not the side effects of cocaine, so then I'm thinking that it must be love
2004-08-23, 8:42 PM #16
dry gear the frog I was just about to do something like that....you bas**** [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif]

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2004-08-24, 11:43 AM #17
A lot of lyrics seem to be around an 8th grade level or less. Don't be afraid of discriptive words. They allow you to say more by saying less.

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2004-08-26, 2:19 AM #18
I can write the music part of a song, but I don't have the first clue when it comes to lyrics. Thats what singers are for.
2004-08-26, 7:28 AM #19
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DogSRoOL:
A lot of lyrics seem to be around an 8th grade level or less. Don't be afraid of discriptive words. They allow you to say more by saying less.

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At the same time, dont overdo it because then it's just lame. The point is to connect with an audience. Unless you're one of those 'artists'.


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2004-08-28, 10:09 AM #20
Try multi-rhyming. It's fun! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

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Rip his page-to-bits show him who the major-is;

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2004-08-28, 10:40 AM #21
think in the shower, thats were most people sing, maybe you'll think of something, only downside is you'll have to remember it when you get out.

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