Hey all, i've finally recorded a first song off my new project.. I don't know what I'll name it yet, so could you guys give me a hand?

this one is more power/heavy metal oriented. In this project i currently have 3 compos, one is very straight metal, the other is more death metal oriented.

I worked hard to make a catchy solo in this one... but I think I did something nice for once.

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Rise Of The Mind

Just so you know before hand, I have all the music you have made saved on my PC, because it rocks. That being said, nothing was really catchy at all. It didn't sound bad it just sounded a bit plain and repetitive. It sounds just like most of your other songs (not that your other songs are all plain and repetitive).

I don't play in a band, so I don't know how simple things are, and I don't know about riffs and blah blah blah, but all I know is what my ears hear. It just sounds really simple and plain. Maybe it's just me.

Overall the song is okay, but in my opinion it's not that great when compared to some of your other things.

this is a new project. if you notice, it's built alot differently than my old stuff. the old stuff was "let's put as many riffs as we can into a song" this one is more to make catchy songs. This one isn't exactly groundbreaking, i made it to see if i could write a generic power metal song. as i said, i touch many genres in this project.

also, this is more of a vocal song, I play whatever I want to in those songs and it really fullfills me. :p

Vocals eh? That sounds like it might sexify the song.

P.S. Thank you for not murdering me for my first post :p

i had everything he had ever released... greenery midis on up... stupid computer crash...
first off, begining sounds... annoying, drums take away from guitar, even though thats repeatitive. I like the lead guitar riffs. again, don't like the chorus-ish bits, sounds like someone is running the volume up and down on it. solo = great. bass is good. over all, everything but the annoying drumming thats like a strobelight of sound is great. ending is superb, too

Yeah, for the most part what Genki said. The riffs inbetween your (and before the first one)solos get repetative, as due the actual solos themselves sometimes. You just repeat lick after lick sometimes, seems to be no progression during the solo; not the whole solo, but you do a lot.

one thing! this is unmastered. i need to master and redo the levels mixing tonight. probably some EQ work. but listen anyway.

The lead parts are not solos. they're melodies. same thing for the fast lead line during the chorus. I don't care if i repeat the same riff. it's a riff.

And I don't need to justify myself as far as the solo goes. I know what I'm doing. I built it myself and I know I don't repeat licks.

i just noticed you had given me the midi to this seb... i feel obligated to attach it so everyone can listen to it... pay no attention to the name and apparently the forums don't support attaching them...

Your guitar tone doesn't really fit the power metal thing. You really really need to get that MP-1 repaired, man! Your pedal sounds fuzzy. It needs more brightness and clarity to it.

I can't complain about the songwriting. I told you this already: a bunch the riffs really seem to imply a vocal melody which is great. The ending is cool. Slap some vocals on it. The only suggestion I have for the leads is that powermetal is meant to be really catchy. Throw in some more vocal-sounding leads to give the listener something to latch onto, perhaps a recurring melodic theme.

Really hypercritical stuff that probably doesn't matter:
The melody stuff around 1:32 has something weird about it, it sounds like the notes are a bit short and tonally something seems off. The fast scalar descent/ascent melody line has something odd about the third or fourth note. Timing around 3:57 is a bit off.

in the fast lead, the rythm goes with two 4 note groups then one 5 note group for the last sequence.

and i know the tone doesn't fit power metal, but as far as direct in goes, that's the best I can get. at least i have audio copies of all my songs.

And this one really needs vocals. I'll be working on this sometime.

as far as recurring theme... when you said that, something ala dragonforce. the driving themes in the song are the first and second riffs, hence why I solo-ed over a verse riff instead of writing one for the solo itself. by the time a riff repeats, you're already into the previous one, and it all creates a familiar feeling.

of course with vocals it'll get much better

And one thing, to those who say it's repetitive. I suggest you go and listen to the metal you love some more. Metal of this style.

I've done enough fiddly stuff for riffs, I just want to have fun with this now. good controlled fun

i wanna hear the death metal, not a fan of this type stuff.

a few things. since the first post i re-recorded the solo, so anyone who listened before this post needs to listen again because i changed quite a bit of it.

also, I'm not going to fix much of the mastering issues, this recording is only a doodle on my new project, the final stuff should come in a year or so while i finish all the composition and lyrics.

Well, power metal is one of my main area's of listening for metal - and I'm working on my own metal album, so here are my comments:

I think that when you ask someone about power metal - most people will say the genre has been saturated by too many bands who offer nothing new.

The bands that make it big in power metal have a refined sound, their own formula, and some killer songs. The other power metal bands release OK songs, but nothing that makes you go "wow".

When I finished listening to your song, I could definatly hear the elements of power metal - but it gave me the 'cliche' band sound. Power metal doesn't interest me as much anymore because there's 100 bands that release mediocre albums versus a band that releases 1 good album.

If you are writing a song to fit the elements of power metal, then of course its going to sound cliche - and only go so far in shock value. It should be the other way around. If you write a song and it happens to include power metal elements - then keep writing it for the right reasons.

Too many bands these day's write songs just because they want to write a certain style/type of song. You should write what you feel and let the music work from there!

Anyways - overall I can see it getting better with vocals, but it needs something original sounding in it. That's my opinion!

Don't shoot me or do a :banned: on me...:(

Yeah but you forget i'm not a power metal band. I'm a metal band. I make whatever the **** i want to.(read original post)

this was an experiment to see if i could go over my usual writing style and compose a cliche power metal song. seems like it suceeded. =D

A song like this in gigs however is going to be killer for the mosh kids.

you need to stop with the 128kbps mp3s... if you want to stick with mp3 160 or 192 are better bitrates without adding too much size... or SCREW DIALUP USERS if you have the webspace use FLAC and compress those songs down to an amazing ~30MB

personally, i prefer 96kbs...

you are dead to me