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Why is hardcore stuff so popular?
2005-09-12, 6:04 PM #1
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2005-09-12, 6:13 PM #2
Because it's something that's semi-underground and people can call their own.

Also, because no one else likes it because they can't understand what the singer is singing.
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2005-09-12, 6:21 PM #3
Some of it is really good.

Minor Threat... State of Alert... Bad Brains...

They're good bands with interesting things to say. DC Hardcore is the best.
former entrepreneur
2005-09-12, 7:27 PM #4
I swear, it came out of freaking nowhere. Everyone in my school was either listening to Korn or Taking Back Sunday, then bam. Everyone was sporting a Terror, Bane, or Comeback Kid t-shirt, bragging about how straight-edge they were, making fun of the kids who had every right to be in the scene as they did, and just being all around trendwhores and elitist jerks. I like some hardcore (I-Defy, Forensics, Majority Rule), but this is ridiculous.

I realize that Virginia is famous for it's hardcore scene (Strike Anywhere and countless other great, influential hardcore bands came out of here), but tons of poser bands are popping up like daisies. I feel bad for the true fans who have been in the scene for years, only to have it attacked by the teeming masses unquenchable desire for the "next big thing". I don't think anything kills a scene's integrity like corporate and fashion entities pouring over and milking the **** out of everything it stands for. I'm not big on hardcore, but it's a respectable community and music genre that deserves more respect than corporate and fashion America could ever give.

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2005-09-12, 8:25 PM #5
That owned.


Also, since when is how good of a musician you are directly related to how fast your can play or how much distortion you can crank out? Don't get me wrong, I like distortion, but... ugh... cranking the drive all the way up does not give good tone. I'm reasonably happy with clean tones just as much as with distortion.

AND WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO BEING FREAKIN' CREATIVE!?
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2005-09-12, 8:40 PM #6
Originally posted by DogSRoOL:
AND WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO BEING FREAKIN' CREATIVE!?


All the creativity fell into electronic music >.>
2005-09-12, 8:43 PM #7
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2005-09-12, 9:51 PM #8
Dillinger Escape Plan (featuring Mike Patton on vocals) - When Good Dogs Do Bad Things

I enjoy that song.
2005-09-12, 9:59 PM #9
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
']All the creativity fell into electronic music >.>



Hahaha! Right... :rolleyes:
2005-09-12, 10:18 PM #10
Because it's HAAARDCOORRRRRRRRRRE.
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2005-09-13, 12:09 AM #11
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
']All the creativity fell into electronic music >.>

Fell into its grave maybe...

:p
2005-09-13, 7:57 AM #12
Originally posted by DogSRoOL:
That owned.


Also, since when is how good of a musician you are directly related to how fast your can play or how much distortion you can crank out? Don't get me wrong, I like distortion, but... ugh... cranking the drive all the way up does not give good tone. I'm reasonably happy with clean tones just as much as with distortion.

AND WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO BEING FREAKIN' CREATIVE!?


1. People who write and preform hardcore songs seldom ever claim to be 'good musicians'.
2. Good Hardcore bands are creative.


I don't think there have been any good hardcore bands since the mid 1980s though.
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2005-09-13, 11:36 PM #13
Quote:
AND WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO BEING FREAKIN' CREATIVE!?
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2005-09-14, 1:00 PM #14
Originally posted by Demon_Nightmare:
Hahaha! Right... :rolleyes:


;)
2005-09-14, 2:35 PM #15
Originally posted by Sarn_Cadrill:
I love you. That's why bands like Pink Floyd will always rule. :)



You can't really toss off an entire genre like that, sorry to say.
former entrepreneur
2005-09-14, 8:50 PM #16
I avoid anything -core like the plague.
2005-09-14, 8:52 PM #17
Originally posted by Rob:
I avoid anything -core like the plague.


Wh-what about nerdcore
2005-09-14, 10:06 PM #18
Rob, you wear stormtrooper outfits. If that isn't nerdcore I don't know what is! :p
2005-09-14, 10:09 PM #19
It's -core, therefore it is avoided, like the plague.
2005-09-14, 11:01 PM #20
My core is harder than yours.
2005-09-15, 8:07 AM #21
I vote slowcore as the stupidest name ever.
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2005-09-15, 9:27 AM #22
Stupidcore!
2005-09-15, 9:51 AM #23
I don't think I've heard any of this "hardcore" music, but if the song above (When Good Dogs Do Bad Things) is an example of said music, I'd have to say that it sounds like a bunch of satanists banging around on what almost sounds like instruments. It's very unique how they torture dogs and bears into making noises instead of having humans sing. That in itself proves the genres uniqueness.
2005-09-15, 9:59 AM #24
Originally posted by MentatMM:
I don't think I've heard any of this "hardcore" music, but if the song above (When Good Dogs Do Bad Things) is an example of said music, I'd have to say that it sounds like a bunch of satanists banging around on what almost sounds like instruments. It's very unique how they torture dogs and bears into making noises instead of having humans sing. That in itself proves the genres uniqueness.


I agree. From just hearing that "song" I hate that band.
"Those ****ing amateurs... You left your dog, you idiots!"
2005-09-15, 10:14 AM #25
Originally posted by Wuss:
Dillinger Escape Plan (featuring Mike Patton on vocals) - When Good Dogs Do Bad Things

I enjoy that song.


I <3 that song, the whole EP is awesome.

The music is so intricate and Mike Patton is a living legend, I can't think of a singer that even approaches how quality he is.
2005-09-15, 11:17 AM #26
The reason I think the whole "straight edge" culture is so funny is because I percieve it this way:

xXxHardXCoreXDudexXx: Dude I am so straight edge.

xXKRUSHSCREAM0001Xx: Me too. Pot sucks, it gives you brain damage and ruins your lungs.

xXxHardXCoreXDudexXx: Oh yeah! STRAIGHT EDGE FOREVER

xXKRUSHSCREAM0001Xx: Hey, the concert is starting in an hour.

*both rush to the concert, where they get concussions and several broken ribs in the mosh pit*
2005-09-15, 8:24 PM #27
Originally posted by 'Thrawn[numbarz:
']Rob, you wear stormtrooper outfits. If that isn't nerdcore I don't know what is! :p



Don't you DARE bring the awesomeness of stormie armor into this.
2005-09-16, 1:26 AM #28
Originally posted by Whelly:
I vote slowcore as the stupidest name ever.



Ever heard of Nintendocore?
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2005-09-16, 9:13 PM #29
Speaking of "straigh-edge" kids, and drugs.

Theres this band called Leftover Crack, it's not a bad band, and some of their songs are pretty good, but the sing about "not" doing drugs, it kinds of contradicts their name don't you think.

Anyhow, heres an excerpt from one of their songs.

"
And all the boys in the straight-edge scene
are in the basement huffing gasoline
Dead, dead, dead, dead
Yer god is dead to me!"
Flipsides crackers are the best crackers to have ever existed
2005-09-17, 5:54 AM #30
yeah they're all homeless crackheads.
2005-09-17, 9:15 AM #31
Could someone be so kind as to explain the so-called "straight-edge" philosophy?
2005-09-17, 11:46 AM #32
From wikipedia:

Straight edge, also known as sXe, is a lifestyle and (counter cultural) subculture, closely associated with punk or hardcore punk music in the United States, which advocates abstinence in relation to tobacco, alcohol and recreational drug use (especially psychoactive and stimulant drug use), and in relation to promiscuous sexual behaviour.

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2005-09-17, 2:16 PM #33
Why is most music since the 90's popular at all? Most of it's total crap. The last decade of good music was the 80's, and even then a lot of it wasn't very good. Call me "stuck in the past" if you want, but music from the 60's and 70's far surpasses any artist alive today. I'd rather be stuck in the past with timeless classics then in the present with horse ****.
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2005-09-17, 2:46 PM #34
There was plenty of crap then, too. Good stuff survives (sometimes).
2005-09-17, 5:11 PM #35
Yes, but the 90s are long gone, nothing much has survived that is very good.
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2005-09-17, 5:17 PM #36
Originally posted by Emon:
Why is most music since the 90's popular at all? Most of it's total crap. The last decade of good music was the 80's, and even then a lot of it wasn't very good. Call me "stuck in the past" if you want, but music from the 60's and 70's far surpasses any artist alive today. I'd rather be stuck in the past with timeless classics then in the present with horse ****.

But... but... John Mayer!
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2005-09-17, 5:19 PM #37
Originally posted by Emon:
Yes, but the 90s are long gone, nothing much has survived that is very good.

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2005-09-17, 10:28 PM #38
Originally posted by Emon:
Why is most music since the 90's popular at all? Most of it's total crap. The last decade of good music was the 80's, and even then a lot of it wasn't very good. Call me "stuck in the past" if you want, but music from the 60's and 70's far surpasses any artist alive today. I'd rather be stuck in the past with timeless classics then in the present with horse ****.



That's nonsense. If you can't find any new bands that don't appeal to you, you aren't looking hard enough.
former entrepreneur
2005-09-17, 10:33 PM #39
I was referring to the big rock/pop crowd, I'll admit I haven't looked well enough. There are actually quite a few artists that I forgot about that I really like, but most of the stuff the general public loves I find to be rubbish.
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2005-09-18, 9:52 AM #40
I'm with Emon. While there are a few decent new pop/rock bands, the vast majority are rubbish, and the genre seems to be taking a turn for the worst. I find myself leaning more towards other forms of music as I get older, and even rediscovering the classics.
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