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Wake me up, when September ends (new mix, old recording)
2006-06-07, 11:16 AM #1
Just finished a remix of a cover my old band did last summer during our shows. The basic tracks are of incredibly ****ty quality, so mixing this half decent was a job and a half. I didn't know half of what I know about mic placement now, last year. :o

Guitar is a MIM Stock Tele, through a Boss pedal set (Overdrive and Super Distortion, IIRC), into a Roland JC-120, mic'ed with a single SM57 (one of the few decent mics we had that day). Took a direct signal of the guitar, and ran it through NI Guitar Rig (Rat into a Bassman model), delayed it and panned the two guitar parts hard left and right.

Drums were mic'ed with my drummer's mics, which didn't even indicate a brand on them, used weird non-standard connectors and sounded like ****. Only decent mic in the kit is a SM58 on the snare, and my Apex 420 as one of the overheads. :o My drummer was being a real *****, too, he doesn't have a hole in the skin of his kick drum for mic'ing, and didn't want to take the skin off for the recording, so I wound up just sticking the mic in front, and it sounds like poo. :mad:

Bass is DI'ed through a Sansamp TRI-AC (which I sold long ago), and the ambient garage "tone" (if you want to call it that) picked up by the drum overheads is very bass heavy.

Vox are done on a SM58. We had been rehearsing 4 days in a row, 4-5 hour sessions. Our singer's voice was finished, unfortunately, when we recorded this. He usually has a fantastic voice. Keep in mind that he's a frenchie singing an English song.

OMFQ LIEK CLIK HEAR

Remixed in my "living-room studio," mastered at school in a somewhat more controlled acoustic environment. I think someone ****ed with the sub at school again (all the ****ing DJ and electronic music dudes always play with it :mad: ) so the bass balance might be off. Any input is welcome.
2006-06-07, 11:24 AM #2
It sounds really good, but I can't help but laugh at his canadian accent. You silly leaf blower.
Think while it's still legal.
2006-06-07, 11:26 AM #3
Thanks. :p

That's a Quebecois accent. Canadians are much more goofy sounding. Just look at Mike Myers, eh?
2006-06-07, 11:50 AM #4
good recording quality, still dont like the song though :P
2006-06-08, 11:20 AM #5
:P
2006-06-11, 3:52 PM #6
You guys suck.
2006-06-11, 4:23 PM #7
They played this on the radio ALL of October, November, December, and ****ing January.
And each time, they would say "someone call Armstrong! Lolz!"

-This sounds pretty good.
2006-06-12, 2:27 AM #8
[QUOTE=Victor Van Dort]It sounds really good, but I can't help but laugh at his canadian accent. You silly leaf blower.[/QUOTE]

You know, the Canadian accent actually helps making it sound as whiny as the original :P

Recording quality is good though.
2006-06-12, 11:29 AM #9
Good, even though I hate Greenday. Do a remake of Annihilation By The Hands of God - Roadrunner United next! Woo!
2006-06-14, 10:30 AM #10
I really don't care for Greenday but it sounds pretty good. He has a good voice.
"Those ****ing amateurs... You left your dog, you idiots!"
2006-06-14, 10:49 AM #11
Originally posted by -Monoxide-:
Good, even though I hate Greenday. Do a remake of Annihilation By The Hands of God - Roadrunner United next! Woo!

<3 robb flynn.
2006-06-15, 4:05 PM #12
What a whiny little schoolboy song. :mad:

But you guys sound quite good. Better song next time, eh? :D
2006-06-15, 6:32 PM #13
Good voice.
The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

-G Man
2006-06-15, 9:29 PM #14
I don't care much for the song, but the recording is pretty good. But it's also way too ****ing loud. ReplayGain calculated a -9.21 dB gain across the track. I did a quick adjustment in Audacity and reencoded it at 128 Kbps with LAME, so there is a slight decrease in quality (I was not able to differentiate during an ABX with my Etymotic ER-6s out of my E-MU 1212m card, just fyi that LAME kicks ***), because I was too lazy to download MP3Gain to do it correctly.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2006-06-15, 9:56 PM #15
It's not uncommon to see -9dB RMS on commercial recordings, unfortunately. Way too smashed, I know, just going with the market. As a general rule, I aim for -14dB unless I'm doing metal or stuff like that.

Your ajustment sounds good, BTW. I'm thinking of remixing the whole thing again, it's just way too boomy, the kick doesn't have any punch (****ty source), so I'm thinking of replacing the drums with samples (Drumagog to the rescue), and reamping the guitar track through my tube preamp to take out some of the high-end harshness. I'm thinking of retracking the bass with something more punchy as well.
2006-06-15, 10:17 PM #16
Also, I don't like how the guitars are panned left/right so hard. It reminds me of listening to old recordings by The Doors before they realized how to actually use stereo. I would at soften the panning at least a little to bring them closer to the center. Listen with headphones, it's annoying to listen to without a crossfeed. The left side also "feels" stronger than the right. I say "feels" because that's just how it sounds, I'm just listening to it right now without looking at the actual waveform. Whether or not it is louder, it seems like it. If that's what you're going for, that's fine, but it sounds a little akward to me.
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.
2006-06-16, 1:29 PM #17
Whenever I mix a trio, I always mix one side louder than the other for guitars. It's not actually louder in peak dBfs but probably in RMS. I always hard pan as well unless I have more than one part. Both guitars are the exact same thing, just with a delay between the two. It'll start to sound weird mixed together, that's why they're hard-panned.
2006-06-17, 12:13 AM #18
Ah, well you have more experience than me, so do what you think is best. I just think it sounded a little akward. I'm not a recording artist, just an avid audio enthusiast (not an audiophile since I don't spend $500 on cables).
Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.

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