Alright, I deleted the last post (because I didn't like its name and felt it was getting too crowded with pics of versions of the cantina) and redid it with these new shots of the cantina, which are about a million times better. This is not the Mos Eisley Cantina, this is the Anchorhead cantina, which is smaller. Don't worry, you'll get to see Mos Eisley at the beginning

Like I said before, Chewbacca won't be following you everywhere because it is quite difficult to set Waypoints for him, and he can get hooked up in the slightest details and get blocked from following you, so he will often wander off to some other purpose of your mission, or wait for you somewhere.

On second reflexion, you will get to walk around the cantina, up to Ree-Yees, though I will make it impossible to take out your weapons in there, since there is a No Blasters policy in Tatooine bars (plus I don't want you shooting up bar customers.)

I made all those neon signs with Jabba and the winking Twilek girl, all working on shaders so they glow.

I added some more people, reskinned the Reelo skin to make a new fat rodian bar tender, and I resized the Gamorreans to a better size.










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Cheers, Jepman

It's...Amazing...Can't wait till you post it...

Neon signs look great.

I still say the cantina could do with a little bit of coloured lighting.

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Anthony Piggott - Creator of all things "oaM"
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Superb.

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Is the problem ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care.

Ahh well done.. I was hoping you'd get SotW!

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Anthony Piggott - Creator of all things "oaM"
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Wow...I love those signs! Overall much, much better than the last!

And if NPCs are getting stuck on the details of the level, I believe there's a NPC_clip or monster_clip or something of that sort that adds clipping only for NPCs, to counter that problem.

By the way, you HAVE to have a short scene where Chewie is down inside the Falcon working on something and Han is yelling to him, they have it in most of the movies and books.

Wow I'm really happy I got SotW, I'm actually enjoying JO editing much more then I ever enjoyed JK editing... maybe because its the fact that I can make detail, and making a good tatooine level in jk was impossible, because of all the domes and stuff. then had to be 3dos, and well, sucked in my opinion. Besides the size of my map would have taken me months to day, yet I managed to do it in about 2 weeks.

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Cheers, Jepman

I agree, Jepman. Brush editing is far more efficient and easier than sectors almost always.

Looks great, but if you're going to let Chewie have a gun, let him have his bowcaster.

Its not really the easiness part that bothers me. I just always hated the fact that if I put too much detail in my level, I'd end up with armies of evil HOM.



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Cheers, Jepman

Yea I will, just need to figure out how, and well, thats not my priority right now.

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Cheers, Jepman

Okily-dokily doo. lol

Jepman, I just got a great idea! You should make an aquariam lining the walls of the cantina, intended, so that it's surface is flat with wall above and below it, so it's all flat. You can then make some little fish map models or detail brushes, put them on func_trains and have them move around! That would be so awesome!! You'd have to check the turning and yaw spawnflags on the path_corners for it to work.

Good idea, but I'll leave that out for final touches, since I hear the entity limit isnt all too high, and this prolly gonna be a big level.

But then again, Tatooine is a really hot planet, i doubt fish could survive...

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Cheers, Jepman

That's true, there wouldn't be fish on Tatooine.

Those are great screens

It has a real Classic Star Wars feel rather than the usual generic Tatooine feel in many other maps.

And I like that fish tank idea, it'd really add some uniqueness about Anchorhead and stuff. I remember an old Star Wars comic short in Star Wars Insider(The one with the guy who was insane after having been stranded in space all those years) and he was in a Tatooine cantina and there were fish tanks on the wall, too.

*Listens to the cantina band play a rendition of the Feel Like I Do solo by Peter Frampton*

I don't know if this has been asked before but are droids and people going to be walking around in Anchorhead? your level looks really nice too.

Yea there will definatly be crowds in Anchorhead, and people walking around the city... how many will dpend on entity limits and how far I can push it, (with scripts (spawing NPCs here, removing them there)

A good script i was thinking, I have no clue if its possible, is for civilians, the spawn when u enter a section, and when u leave, npcs spawn in another sectyion, and the section you were just in are removed, and when you walk back in that section they are respawned and the ones in the last section disappear.. possible?


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Cheers, Jepman

Hate to keep bugging you, but will there be spedders,swoops parked in the town?

Very, very nice level when is the exspected release date?

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Wraa... the bar people are just standing there like discarded action figures. They need some sort of subtle animation. And those Gamorreans should NOT be smaller than their table.

I hope, for the cantina, that NPCs will move around, at least some of them. Some should walk around, some should sit, some should stand.

*falls unconscious from amazement*

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Dulce et decorum est pro Deo et patria mori.

There is no entity limit.

JM, brush entities, like func_trains and func_doors max out at 512. If I'm wrong, that means WLS is wrong, and since they got that info from Raven, that means Raven is wrong...

There IS an entity limit for other entities, too. I hit it once by laying down over a hundred turrets (allied with me) and then spawning a Desann... The level crashed and told me it ran out of entities.

Dang!! that look's Great! got a real STAR WARS Feel to it. Keep it up, and win are you exp to releas it?. by the way chewie's leg's are a little bit thin but other then that this is great looking, CANT WAIT!.

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Yes there will be speeders and swoops parked around,

People will of course move around, I hate the plastic figure feel the cantina has right now, but I can't script yet, so I'm making the level, and going to do all this when polishing off the level.

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Cheers, Jepman

I heard there was no entity limit, I've got about a few thousand entities in my level.

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Anthony Piggott - Creator of all things "oaM"
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looks very star wars galaxies-ish,

everything looks sweet so far and if you can get the civ's to "act" real that'll make a huge difference.

I resent that.

However, the only real complaint I have with your level is the sand. It looks too much like the buildings. Maybe just a slight change in the color...

Thats not sand

Part of "New" Anchorhead is built on top of ciment and stuff, but you'll get lots of send aroung the landing area, and the "old" Anchorhead.

And then you also have the imperial stronghold

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Cheers, Jepman

It looks great, but it seems too clean, sterile, and gently lit for a bar. I'm not really sure how to explain it, perhaps some orange light instead of the white to make it a little harsher, and make things look more cluttered, abused, and aged. Like I said before, it looks great, it just doesn't seem like a bar.

AKPIGGOT, theres ONE question ive been wondering for a very long time...

are you mapping for JO? i hope so, I enjoyed your levels in MOTS, and im definatily gonna enjoy JO levels

How many entities beginning with func? There is a limit, whether it be a few thousand or a billion. WLS might have been wrong when they said 512 was the max for func entities.

Looks great, nice tatooine feel. I can't wait to play it.

hell yes. it is beautiful.

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It looks fantastic, but the bar needs colored lighting like AKPiggott said. If you make other rooms (i am sure you will) make them more open and spacious. Remember that this is Tantooine, a hot desert planet. Ventilation is needed. . .

1. Yes, add some subtle colored lighting.

2. Ventilation is needed on Tatooine. You could have some grates placed around the cantina with little target_speakers and a moving air noise.

Perhaps in the back of the cantina you could have a guy passed out on a table. He could be holding a drink in his right hand, and occasionally try to bring it to his mouth. ICARUS has functions to attach GLMs to hands, and you can play Desann's dying animtion (where he lifts up his saber) periodically.

And then you could have some guy follow you with a hunch back continuously doing the "Use/Activate" motion at you saying, "Do you fear me? Do you fear me?" or perhaps even several guys doing that I remember the good old days of JK when I used to follow people around doing wht use/activate motion with the space bar. Ahhh, the good old days.