We've all heard the song by The Eagles. I just turned the song into a level (not completely done, but mostly). Anyway, I'd say it's a pretty descent level (much better than my others). I'll be posting some screenies soon. BTW, I am working on locker rooms for the pool area and I need a good locker .mat. If anyone has any that they'd be willing to share, I'd really appreciate it.

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The Editor of bad levels such as:

Battle Ground Oasis The Forgotten Tomb
Office Building Arena
SpacePort Oasis
Wookie Camp
Fade to Black
Thriving Desert

Alright! I wanted to do this, but I suck at level editors. So, what are you going for? A gothic horror setting like the story at Fiction Press? (http://www.fictionpress.com/read.php?storyid=481329) Or more of a country style setting with something slightly off, like in the quote in my sig?

-I could describe mine better for you.

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"I'm Thomas. Thomas Johnson. I'll be there if you leave the microwave open. I'll be there if you touch the third rail. I'll be there if you turn on the gas before you light the match, or lose a round of Russian roulette. I am at the end of every road. I await you past the last heartbeat. I am the Grim Reaper. I will be the death of you."
-Thomas Johnson, the Black Angel of Death

"I wonder... what might happen if I were to open this door. This simple, wood paneled door. What would happen? Would I find a closet? A bathroom? A kitchenette? Or would I be treated to a nightmarish vision of a universe beyond ours, a universe of meaningless powers and frightful entities with a need to express their sadistic urges? Or a bedroom?"
-St. George in the Hotel California

Ooooooh me wants

/me plays Hotel California on guitar

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I love it when they scream.

maeve: most people with new weird names, I have to check the email before I know who it is, but "I love it when they scream" so obviously you
jagged: only coz it's my sig on massassi though, rite? Or would your definition of stalker include my name?
maeve: Pretty much!
jagged: *sigh*

"I am the signature virus! Copy me into your signature so that I can take over the world! Moohahahee!"

I'm actually going to make it look like a regular hotel for those who like to RPG. Then, I have an area that goes outside of the hotel into a mall type area for those people who like to play with guns (there's a gun shop). And also, I've included a blocked off floor to the hotel that die-hard Eagles fans will want to see...

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The Editor of bad levels such as:

Battle Ground Oasis The Forgotten Tomb
Office Building Arena
SpacePort Oasis
Wookie Camp
Fade to Black
Thriving Desert

Alrighty, here's some screenies of the "Eagle Suite".





And here's some screenies of something different I was working on.




Sorry for the picture quality, I don't know why they turned out that way.

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The Editor of bad levels such as:

Battle Ground Oasis The Forgotten Tomb
Office Building Arena
SpacePort Oasis
Wookie Camp
Fade to Black
Thriving Desert

JPG compression does that.

PLEASE tell me you're going to have lighting in this

I can't STAND it when people make really massive and really cool levels and then don't include lights...

And I can't stand it when people say they've done lighting, but they've actually just stuck lights everywhere so it's fully lit

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I love it when they scream.

maeve: most people with new weird names, I have to check the email before I know who it is, but "I love it when they scream" so obviously you
jagged: only coz it's my sig on massassi though, rite? Or would your definition of stalker include my name?
maeve: Pretty much!
jagged: *sigh*

"I am the signature virus! Copy me into your signature so that I can take over the world! Moohahahee!"

Which areas are you talking about? The hotel or the other one? The other one has dynamic lighting, but the screen shot doesn't really show it, and the hotel I used lighting by sector to try to minimize the ping. Just keep in mind that these are only screenies from one room and not the entire hotel

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The Editor of bad levels such as:

Battle Ground Oasis The Forgotten Tomb
Office Building Arena
SpacePort Oasis
Wookie Camp
Fade to Black
Thriving Desert

Standard Lighting has little-to-no effect on ping and very little effect on framerate (in the JK engine).

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Watch out for this guy => :banned:

Be it as it may, but I'm keeping the little guy in mind. The guy who doesn't have a good video card and wants to have fun. I'd do the dynamic lighting on the hotel, but if the standard lighting has any effect at all on the reduction of ping, then I'm gonna use it.

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The Editor of bad levels such as:

Battle Ground Oasis The Forgotten Tomb
Office Building Arena
SpacePort Oasis
Wookie Camp
Fade to Black
Thriving Desert

Are there any little guys left? Hell, I've had a 3d accelerator for the last 4 years.

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PetroRock
WLP
MDS

"Mirrors On The Cieling" No
"Sweet Chapeigne(SP?) on ice" No
Dance In The Courtyard No

I WANT THEM ALL!

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Epic: Episode I TC, Epic: Podracing Mod MP/SP, Epic: Starbattles Mod MP/SP

I don't think that the song was literally about an actual hotel, but cool nonetheless.

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Those who stare in the eyes of death and laugh will be the first to go.

It's about a state of mind (of some kind).

It's Pink Champagne.
And I was just running throught he song in my head while looking at the screens.

Make sure to have a lot of rooms. "Pleanty o' room at the Hotel California".

Put a big desert around it, Neon lights in front, and a long, dark highway past it. "On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair, one smell of coletus rising up through the air. Up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light. My head grew heavy and my sight grew dim; I had to stop for the night."

Make sure the hallways are long and darker than the rooms. "Then she lit up a candle, and she showed me the way. There were voices down the corridor..."

Put a really quiet loop of someone repeating the choruses all over the hotel area. "There were voices down the corridor... And still those voices are calling from far away. Wake you up in the middle of the night, just to hear them say..."

Make it labyrinthine (sp?). "I had to find the passage back to the place I was before..."

-Just a few tips.

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"I'm Thomas. Thomas Johnson. I'll be there if you leave the microwave open. I'll be there if you touch the third rail. I'll be there if you turn on the gas before you light the match, or lose a round of Russian roulette. I am at the end of every road. I await you past the last heartbeat. I am the Grim Reaper. I will be the death of you."
-Thomas Johnson, the Black Angel of Death

"I wonder... what might happen if I were to open this door. This simple, wood paneled door. What would happen? Would I find a closet? A bathroom? A kitchenette? Or would I be treated to a nightmarish vision of a universe beyond ours, a universe of meaningless powers and frightful entities with a need to express their sadistic urges? Or a bedroom?"
-St. George in the Hotel California

ok.. well i dont know about letting you... since the highschool isnt finished and all, but ill take my chances..

as for the crappy looks, that comes from taking a full photoshop image, converting it to a mat, losing the original, converting it back to a bmp, then to a jpg to post online! hows that for a mouthfull..
ADVICE: try making your own textures/3do's its not that hard..

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"Everyone Dies..."
-Fett

My Website
Brad's Highschool Level
Unfinished Levels For Download

Oh for the love of God..... put proper lighting in it. Why would you even bother creating a map if you weren't planning on making it look realistic?

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All's well that ends well; if it ever ends at all.

I'm sorry, but no matter how hard you try to make something look real, you cannot. You may put a lot of detail into it, and it still won't look real. It will look realistic, in the sense that it has a real-like look to it. That's why people say "OMG, is that JO?" when they see realistic JK maps made and think it looks good enough to be JO instead of saying "OMG, is that real life?".

Besides, the more detail that is put into a map, the more the ping increases. High ping kills fun.

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The Editor of bad levels such as:

Battle Ground Oasis The Forgotten Tomb
Office Building Arena
SpacePort Oasis
Wookie Camp
Fade to Black
Thriving Desert

I heard it was a dream the guy had.

[me sings]something something something, hotel California, duh duh duh duh duh duh, such a lovely place, such a lovely place, such a lovely plaeeeeecceee.. duh duh duh duh...[/me sings] etc...



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It is I! JKdude!

I'm sorry, who? I've honestly never heard of them. I haven't had a chance to listen to a radio for awhile. When I do get a chance to listen to music lately, it's been one of my CD's which is commercial free.



*raises hand* Yes, I'm one of them. I'm frankly to poor to go out and buy one for my machine. Mainly becasue if I do that I might as well upgrade the whole **** system. (My computer, in it's entirety, is not worth a 100+ dollar graphics card.)

Framerate != Ping

And how would adding lighting hurt the little guy? JK's multiplayer levels have proper lighting...

Yes, JK's single player levels do have lighting, but if you look at the MP levels, the quality of lighting isn't as good and that's because when you play SP, you play by yourself, when you play online, you're connecting to someone elses game. It would go slower if you connect to an online game especially if LEC used good lighting in their MP levels.

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The Editor of bad levels such as:

Battle Ground Oasis The Forgotten Tomb
Office Building Arena
SpacePort Oasis
Wookie Camp
Fade to Black
Thriving Desert

Standard lighting has NO effect on framerate or ping on anything even close to a modern PC. And I'm talking like a Pentium II 300 here. Even on a system as crappy as that it won't matter. You'll find hardly anyone who has such a crappy PC anymore, even here at Massassi where JK is the name of the game.

The only way lighting, of any kind, could have an affect on ping, is if your PC was so horrible that it couldn't handle the visuals of the level that processing power had to be taken from the network operations and be put to the graphics processing. This is also highly unlikely since JK uses D3D, and D3D is very GPU dependant, and wouldn't draw much from the CPU to get the framerate higher.

But anyways, the point is is that standard lighting won't affect your framerate or ping at all. Dynamic lighting can affect your framerate a little, but it sucks anyways. No flicker COGs only help on smaller surfaces. Once you start making surfaces, it starts to suck again. That, and you can only have like 16 of them.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.

Tell that to Valve about Half-Life 2.


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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.

Emon, Half-Life 2 still looks like a video game.

Fine, When (and if) Massassi ever gets their file system back up, I'll post 2 versions of the level. One with dynamic lighting and the other with standard lighting. That way people can have a choice.

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The Editor of bad levels such as:

Battle Ground Oasis The Forgotten Tomb
Office Building Arena
SpacePort Oasis
Wookie Camp
Fade to Black
Thriving Desert

I always thought the song was about an drugs and addiction and stuff.

Sounds like someone considering drugs.

I always thought "it" was referring to pot or something.

Some excuses people have are to remember the good old days or to forget about their problems.

If you are truely and alcoholic, you can quit drinking, but once you take any kind of sedative, you are back at square one, no matter how long it has been since you've drank.

Wow, I did learn something in school....

The shots of the level looked pretty good dude. Keep at it.


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It's a song from 1977 @@ you've had plenty of time to hear it at least once. XD

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"Do... or do not... there is no try"-Yoda

Of course it does, but it looks and feels much more real than anything else. It's the first game where you can really look at a character and think of that character as a real person, or like a character from a movie, instead of some polygons on your screen. The environments create a much more believable atmosphere that just hasn't been done before.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.

correction: Emon, Half-Life 2 still looks like a very lifelike video game where architecture and atmospheric effects are concerned.

EDIT: sorry bout that pun. It was unintended.

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saberopus
<Thrawn|PizzaEating> You're a good mapper

//From the mIRC files\\
<mavispoo> I can't sleep
*Cazor gets into bed
<Cazor> We will "sleep"
<mavispoo> Oh god, I'm not stuck in here with you am I?
<Cazor> ...
<Cazor> yes
<Cazor> hehehehe

[This message has been edited by saberopus (edited June 04, 2003).]

In the first verse, the word "Colitas" (not "Coletus", surprise surprise) pops up. In spanish, this means at least two things. First of all, it's one way of saying small rears, so maybe it's just a general reference to... never mind.
It also can be taken as a referecne to portion of the hemp plant, more potent than the leaves. This is the official meaning of the word, according to the Eagles themselves.

-Ta-da.

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"I'm Thomas. Thomas Johnson. I'll be there if you leave the microwave open. I'll be there if you touch the third rail. I'll be there if you turn on the gas before you light the match, or lose a round of Russian roulette. I am at the end of every road. I await you past the last heartbeat. I am the Grim Reaper. I will be the death of you."
-Thomas Johnson, the Black Angel of Death

"I wonder... what might happen if I were to open this door. This simple, wood paneled door. What would happen? Would I find a closet? A bathroom? A kitchenette? Or would I be treated to a nightmarish vision of a universe beyond ours, a universe of meaningless powers and frightful entities with a need to express their sadistic urges? Or a bedroom?"
-St. George in the Hotel California

Completely correct. Lighting does absolutely nothing to framerate, at all. I have no idea where in the world you got the idea that it did...



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Epic: Episode I TC, Epic: Podracing Mod MP/SP, Epic: Starbattles Mod MP/SP

You know I'm sure they said the same thing about Zelda 64 when it came out? My point is that they can always improve. :\

/me wishes he could lock this thread for stupidity!

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"Everyone Dies..."
-Fett

My Website
Brad's Highschool Level
Unfinished Levels For Download

What's stupid about it?

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The Editor of bad levels such as:

Battle Ground Oasis The Forgotten Tomb
Office Building Arena
SpacePort Oasis
Wookie Camp
Fade to Black
Thriving Desert

I think it's stupid that you're trying to make a level but not trying to make it look good. If you're going to put effort into it, go the distance.

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Dark, Darker, Darko

The level is not done yet. Besides, I'm showcasing what I've done so far, so NO it shouldn't be closed.

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The Editor of bad levels such as:

Battle Ground Oasis The Forgotten Tomb
Office Building Arena
SpacePort Oasis
Wookie Camp
Fade to Black
Thriving Desert

And which you've done so far looks pretty good.

(I felt it was about time for a posative remark)

I have tried making my own textures and 3DO's. If you look at the screenshots, the large TV is one of my 3DO's. I made a locker mat also, but it looked...really cartoonish. I can post it if you wanna see it.

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The Editor of bad levels such as:

Battle Ground Oasis The Forgotten Tomb
Office Building Arena
SpacePort Oasis
Wookie Camp
Fade to Black
Thriving Desert

[This message has been edited by Trige (edited June 09, 2003).]