I'm so bad at staying focused...







I had to brighten them some... FRAPS has a tendency to take VERY DARK screens... they're probably still too dark. I'm slowly progressing beyond this part of the level, although I'm still stumped as to why Emon's new skybox textures are refusing to work...

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I'm going to kill you and eat your brains, therefore stealing your talent in the process.

... WRAAA!!!

Ugh, it's boxy, I see DFLT, and please lose the FULLBRIGHT LIGHTING. 50 rocket launchers in a few dflt boxes does not a level make. Come back with something to show.

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I should also note that I have yet to figure out exactly what I'm going to do with the roof... I'm trying to keep the archi fairly straight-forward... but the idiot inside me is all "MAX OUT THE DETAILS THAT'S TOO SPARSE". Especially after playing through EF2...

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DFLT..? Where?? What you talking about?


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Gandalf is in da houuusssee!

Hahaha... he is just mad because he cant edit like gonk great work, man! i love it.

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You don't hug the Cazor... the Cazor hugs You.

Is that steampunk?

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"Well, if I am not drunk, I am mad, but I trust I can behave like a gentleman in either
condition."... G. K. Chesterton

I like your architecture and texturing. It looks a lot more realistic than JO's origional fluffy lookin archi.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke

"Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right." -Isaac Asimov

[This message has been edited by Bobbert006 (edited July 05, 2003).]

Gonk.
Leave massassi...
And become a professional leveler using that engine.
Do it for the love of God.
Because those images make me wanna cry (partly out of jealousy).

if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}

i remember when Gonk first started using Radient for RtcW like 6months before JO came out...so many memories *sniff*


anywhos. looks great m'boy, i wouldnt change a single thing.

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Democrats: Like Bill Clinton, we think with our genitals. Republicans: Like Richard Nixon, we don't bother thinking.

Floor lacks detail.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.

It sucks in designing when you are stuck in something like that.

Your stuff looks beautiful. The texturing makes it very . . . sexy.

Raven textures are a pain in the @ss.

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Multiplayer Game Alias: II88BlackOps

Live long JK2. You rock.

See my blood sweat and tears in the SP map Corrupted Paths. Screens here: http://imagebase.freewebspace.com/photo.html

These threads die off so damned fast if you don't feed 'em constantly...







And lastly, who better to help give a sense of scale than some poor hapless stormies?



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It looks amazing Gonk. I envy your skills. Too bad I don't have a computer capable of running JO.../me cries

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Very nice, just one question... well... two.

1) Why the massive roof height?

2) SP or MP? I'd KILL for some good SP additions to JO.

Originally posted by Emon:
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Floor lacks detail.
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could be cuz he had to turn the settings down to be able to take the shot. or im just really stupid and need to shut up cuz i think those are tiles on the ground


Gonk in screen 3 how did you get that light beam?



[This message has been edited by st_thomas (edited July 06, 2003).]

Some more screens:









You'd be amazed at how the new ceiling actually seems to brighten up the room. Really strange.

And to answer your questions, phoenix:

1.) Because I can.

2.) SP.

[Edit] I forgot to mention that I'm going to be adding a BIT more light to the top of the ceiling, above the grating there, just to make the pipes and such that are running above it stand out a bit more. I may also change the grating texture.
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[This message has been edited by Gonk (edited July 06, 2003).]

I believe Emon meant that it lacks detail in the sense that it's one, unbroken, flat plain of a texture. I may or may not alleviate this. I dunno yet. As for the light beam, it's actually the standard beam shader from Q3, just in JO. That's all.

[Edit] I also had originally taken those first two sets of screens at 1280x1024x32, with 6xAA/16xAF, and the last bunch is the same resolution at 4xAA/16xAF. I'm just trying out different combinations of AA and AF on my card. (9800 Pro) Obviously all of the shots are resized to 800x600.

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[This message has been edited by Gonk (edited July 06, 2003).]

quake 3 the game or the engine?

The game.

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New cieling looks awesome, Gonk. Keep up the good work.

(IT would be cool to get some sort of skylight type thing in a room like that elseweherein the level)

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Wow.

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-Emon

Yes, you should break it up some more. Maybe some extruding lights or something.

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Bassoon, n. A brazen instrument into which a fool blows out his brains.

This map looks very good . . . AND ITS SP! w00t!

I don't have Q3, but I want to get that beam shader (I haven't found the in JO directories). Can I get it from the internet someplace like PlanetQuake?

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Multiplayer Game Alias: II88BlackOps

Live long JK2. You rock.

See my blood sweat and tears in the SP map Corrupted Paths. Screens here: http://imagebase.freewebspace.com/photo.html

Gonk. You suck. I don't know why you still try editting. Seriously, find a new hobbie.

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Die.

On a side note, your level is absolutely beautiful. /me huggles Gonk's level

as always it looks great.

one idea, maby you could put some sort of catwalk up between those wierd hanging pannels are at the top of the sloped hallway.
Does that make sense?

Just a suggestion.

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Immorality- 1 Cor. 6:18, 2 Tim. 2:22
Impure thoughts- Col. 3:2, Phil. 4:8
Alcohol- Eph. 5:18, Prov. 20:1
Anger- Gal. 5:22, Porv. 20:3
Pride- 1 Peter 5:5, Dan. 4:37
Worry- 1 Peter 5:7, Phil. 4:7-6
speech- James 1:26, Eph. 4:29-5:2

Truly amazing work Gonk. of course i have to pop this question (as I havn't in a long time): "For those of us with slower systems, HOW DOES IT RUN?" My system had problems with JO's original archi, and that was pretty sparse, so it'd be interesting to find out how well it runs on an older system (though chances are that i will never play this map unless i get a new copy of JO...)

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I have created Artificial Inteligence that's as smart as a Squirel!!!

Well, best way to appropriate how it'll run on ANY system is to use r_speeds. (just type r_speeds 1 in the console, after typing in devmapall to enable cheats)... what you're looking for is the tris count...

Basically, the r_speeds as you see it in those shots, sans enemies/player model is in the neighborhood of 10-12k, which is quite surprising, really. Technically your limit BEFORE adding player models/enemy models, etc. should be in the 12-14k range in MP. (of course, that's largely dependant upon the limits you set as an author. But before enemies/NPCs/players and such, that's pretty good.)

You can go up to around 20-25k even _SOMETIMES_ in SP just because the lag issues aren't present, etc. Of course, cleaning up the construction of the map and using hint brushes to help divide up the vis will save you a lot as well. I'd also like to note that I haven't done that yet. I should, but it's not terribly difficult and I might just procrastinate and do it later in the final stages...

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