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pushing it to the limit is the only way to go...
2003-07-24, 6:29 AM #1
Well, I had this strange desire this morning to make something else that JK could not handle... dont ask why...
[http://67.87.115.203:81/brad_s/hp/highpolytube1.jpg]
[http://67.87.115.203:81/brad_s/hp/highpolytube2.jpg]
Then the test... Ingame:
[http://67.87.115.203:81/brad_s/hp/hp1.jpg]
Looks pretty good!
[http://67.87.115.203:81/brad_s/hp/hp2.jpg]
But alas, if I went all the way to the end and looked down the tube...
[http://67.87.115.203:81/brad_s/hp/hp3.jpg]

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2003-07-24, 6:34 AM #2
cooool

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2003-07-24, 6:38 AM #3
[Insert rude and glorifing comment]

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2003-07-24, 8:33 AM #4
Is that HOM your showing in the last pic? If so, and you need sugguestions, try making sure the surfaces have been successfully adjoined and are placed back to back, also, try checking CC. Other than that, it's simply beautiful.

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2003-07-24, 9:48 AM #5
The reason for the HOM is so many sectors.

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2003-07-24, 9:50 AM #6
Everybody to the limit!

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2003-07-24, 9:51 AM #7
Why'd didn't you just use a 3do for the catawalk? If you did that; you would have a very interesting/homless corridor!

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2003-07-24, 9:57 AM #8
the catwalk IS a 3do

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2003-07-24, 10:40 AM #9
Make the textures scrolling. Im sure that's what your planning, but maybe not. Then put a space texture on it, and you got one of those tunnels that makes you feel like your gonna fall over.

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2003-07-24, 12:40 PM #10
Make the ring supports as 3dos!

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2003-07-24, 12:45 PM #11
That should not reach adjoin limit...

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2003-07-24, 1:17 PM #12
It shouldn't be anywhere near the adjoin limit.

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2003-07-24, 1:54 PM #13
it should be if that hand rail is made from sector arch

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2003-07-24, 1:58 PM #14
I've experimented with hallways that are a bit more complex than this one and most of the time I haven't had any HOM. Are those ring columns 3do's as well? If so, you're nowhere near complex enough to have HOM.

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2003-07-24, 4:27 PM #15
No, they are archi... it gives me HOM
but im making them 3dos and giving this a new twist... be back with updates later

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2003-07-24, 4:30 PM #16
[http://67.87.115.203:81/brad_s/hp/hp4.jpg]

there's the archi

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2003-07-24, 4:52 PM #17
this easily pushes it to the limits... and it's only one box

http://members.aol.com/DrkJedi82/hom.jpg

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2003-07-24, 5:31 PM #18
Well, this quickly took a drastic turn towards a DT type level... I'm not sure if thats good or not... But anyhow, I present the spinning blades of DOOM!!! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]
[http://67.87.115.203:81/brad_s/hp/hp02.jpg]
[http://67.87.115.203:81/brad_s/hp/hp01.jpg]

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2003-07-24, 7:01 PM #19
Awesome!

[downloads Brad's knowledge of JED into his "way too busy with a million other things to really get into JED" mind]

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2003-07-24, 10:24 PM #20
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DeTRiTiC-iQ:
It shouldn't be anywhere near the adjoin limit.

</font>


Look closely, if the hand rail is a 3do, that would mean the tube has to be a straight shot sector all the way down. That requires sector cleavingt that EASILY pushes the limit.

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2003-07-25, 2:45 AM #21
make the railing in pieces... that way they fit in said sectors.

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2003-07-25, 4:52 AM #22
Yeah, or you could "flicker" COG it, but I'd rather split it, as that method's really a hack.

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2003-07-25, 7:17 AM #23
I like HOM.

It would really freak some people out in that part of the level....ooooh! The rings cause people to die! I see a well...and....7 days...why isn't this in Japanese? lost...pretty...I like it, brad....dead

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2003-07-25, 7:57 AM #24
wtf

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2003-07-25, 7:59 AM #25
O_o

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2003-07-25, 8:25 AM #26
*humps Brad*
2003-07-25, 2:31 PM #27
If you created a simple cylinder, then used that whatsit plugin, yknow - the one that does wonderful curvy corridors - to add a "corridor" around the outside, you wouldnt have the random cleaves you get by cutting the inner cylinder out of the extruding parts. And then end up with quite a few less adjoins.

Or just go with **** 3do's as the railings and the protruding areas. So much easier.


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2003-07-25, 4:17 PM #28
no, that's teh absolute WRONG way to do it. The way to make that archi with the fewest possible adjoins would be to make several cylinders, with two sizes. This leaves you with just two adjoins per section instead of (insert number of lines that make up the circle's circumference) adjoins per section. Silly. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/wink.gif] That wireframe screen is a little hard to get much out of though... could you
post a top, side, and front view? Might be easier to discern. I liek it though [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] [Is this teh thing I saw in your EC earlier?]


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2003-07-25, 4:35 PM #29
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GeneralRamos:
no, that's teh absolute WRONG way to do it. The way to make that archi with the fewest possible adjoins would be to make several cylinders, with two sizes. This leaves you with just two adjoins per section instead of (insert number of lines that make up the circle's circumference) adjoins per section. </font>


We were working along the lines of a single sector all the way through the middle - to have one single 3do for the platform instead of it chopped up like your method would require.

Admittedly that way would be better, but if you read the entire thread, it has been suggested [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]



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2003-07-25, 6:07 PM #30
Unfortunately JK can only have a certain number of adjoins on screen at a single time. It doesn't matter how many adjoins you can see through, as long as you have as few as possible.

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2003-07-25, 6:11 PM #31
well then, simply cut a rectangular shape between vertices and on teh bigger ones cleave it flush with the smaller one on the outside, then merge the rectangles
it'll still use far less adjoins. Actually, a triangle would be more efficient, but it depends on teh size and position of teh catwalk
If you don't mind, i'll post a shot fo what I mean, if you want the pics removed, jsut let me know.

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/12043.jpg]

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/12044.jpg]

Technically, making teh basic catwalk itself uses less adjoins, but if you want to keep it as a 3do...

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2003-07-26, 9:42 AM #32
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jon`C:
Unfortunately JK can only have a certain number of adjoins on screen at a single time. It doesn't matter how many adjoins you can see through, as long as you have as few as possible.
</font>


Thank you, Mr. Obvious. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/rolleyes.gif]



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2003-07-26, 5:30 PM #33
Actually, before you posted that, I made this..
[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/12049.jpg]
I need a cog to get it to spin continuously, or a cog to run a .key animation that I made over and over again...
I want it so when that blade hits you, it causes damage/kills you, or knocks you off the platforms..

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2003-07-27, 6:13 AM #34
Just rip open the fan.cog for 'Blades Of Death' and give that blade the same properties.

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2003-07-27, 6:43 PM #35
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Friend14:
Thank you, Mr. Obvious. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/rolleyes.gif]

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You're welcome, Mr. 10 year old.

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2003-07-27, 7:27 PM #36
Ouch.

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2003-07-28, 4:45 AM #37
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jon`C:
You're welcome, Mr. 10 year old.

</font>


DISSSSSSSS

....

Anyway, yea, like it was said above, rip apart the blades of death cog. To make it spin, you could also probably use some of the cogs from the pipes in the fuel tanker level in JKSP.

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2003-07-28, 5:43 AM #38
I asked GoY on chat what was wrong with this cog, and he told me how to fix it, but I got disconnected before I could copy it down..
Can someone help real quick?

Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
# Jedi Knight Cog Script
#
#SpinnerRotationCog

symbols
message startup

int -1
thing spinner
keyframe spinny=spinny.key
end

code
startup:
playkey(thing, int keyframe, 2);
return;
end


</font>


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2003-07-28, 10:21 AM #39
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jon`C:
You're welcome, Mr. 10 year old.

</font>


And your maturity level drops yet another notch.



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2003-07-28, 10:46 AM #40
Put a sleep statement after the startup. You have to have it sleep for a period of time before executing any code, or else JK won't be ready to run it when it tries to execute, and it won't execute it.

The statement should be:
sleep(1);

The fan will start spinning one second after the level starts.

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