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My first JO player model
2003-09-01, 9:00 AM #1
<an attempt> just getting the body done, not worrying about bones or weighting or even skinning yet...
reference pic i drew:
[http://members.accesstoledo.com/sev0193/reference.jpg]
WIP (and this is a smoothed version, the poly count is actually very low) :
[http://members.accesstoledo.com/sev0193/head.jpg]

Comments, flames, down syndrom japaneese?

-S (and no its not a protoss, we already went over this)

<EDIT>cant spell...
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[This message has been edited by JEDI-Salvation (edited September 01, 2003).]
"...Those living for death will die by their own hand, Life's no ordeal if you come to terms, Reject the system dictating the norms..."
2003-09-01, 9:12 AM #2
..Flatshades. Please.

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In case you didn't notice in the post above; my English teacher is NOT my best friend...
2003-09-01, 9:19 AM #3
[http://members.accesstoledo.com/sev0193/head2.jpg]
Granted...

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"...Those living for death will die by their own hand, Life's no ordeal if you come to terms, Reject the system dictating the norms..."
2003-09-01, 9:25 AM #4
Yum.

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2003-09-01, 9:29 AM #5
Holy ****ocky mushrooms! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif] Not only do you have an insane gift at drawing, but you have an insane gift a modelling!! That's your first model ever, and it looks far superior to many models made my people who have made more than one. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif] again!
DO NOT WANT.
2003-09-01, 9:33 AM #6
thanks [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] but not my first model model, just my first humanoid model that i hope to put into JO

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"...Those living for death will die by their own hand, Life's no ordeal if you come to terms, Reject the system dictating the norms..."
2003-09-01, 9:38 AM #7
... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif]....

I love you.

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In case you didn't notice in the post above; my English teacher is NOT my best friend...
2003-09-01, 9:39 AM #8
Well, it's still utter ownage. How does that guy talk to normal humans who have mouths?
DO NOT WANT.
2003-09-01, 9:47 AM #9
He brings his laptop wich has a text-to-wave converter [http://forums.massassi.net/html/tongue.gif]

That's one awesome model!

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2003-09-01, 9:51 AM #10
that looks awesome

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2003-09-01, 9:56 AM #11
[http://members.accesstoledo.com/sev0193/refernce2.jpg]

The Bone in the lower front of its face forms a hollow and the muscles internally form sounds. In esscense it sounds like its talking through a mask. It takes in air through the back of its head and uses the organs on the side of its neck (bumps under the skin) to hear as noted . I guess the holes above the eyes are like for smell I guess, havnt quite worked that out...not like it matters too much anyway. Im open to suggestions [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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"...Those living for death will die by their own hand, Life's no ordeal if you come to terms, Reject the system dictating the norms..."
2003-09-01, 10:17 AM #12
Awesome. Just... awesome. You have quite an imagination. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]
DO NOT WANT.
2003-09-01, 10:38 AM #13
very nice, reminds be of the guy from Enemy Mine.

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On a Swedish chainsaw: "Do not attempt to stop chain with your hands or genitals."
2003-09-01, 10:43 AM #14
Great work

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2003-09-01, 1:16 PM #15
Wooooooooooooooooooo!

Very VERY nice work!

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2003-09-01, 2:06 PM #16
UPDATE:
[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/12522.jpg]

Body is done, and thus the easy part is over...now I gotta learn how to do the rest of this crap [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

-S

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"...Those living for death will die by their own hand, Life's no ordeal if you come to terms, Reject the system dictating the norms..."
2003-09-01, 2:17 PM #17
He has a... wang-udder.

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2003-09-01, 2:19 PM #18
haha wang udder...
for you flat shade lovers:
[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/12523.jpg]

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"...Those living for death will die by their own hand, Life's no ordeal if you come to terms, Reject the system dictating the norms..."
2003-09-01, 2:38 PM #19
Ohh... i guess thats his jedi robe kinda dealy? if it is make it less...uh...bionic so it doesnt look like some kinda alien organ. And if it is an alien organ... uh... eww. Oh yeah and the but looks kinda weird for having clothing over it, like his rectum is sucking the kilt only into his buttcrack. okay so now that i have sickened many... i will get back to doing nothing.

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2003-09-01, 2:43 PM #20
[http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif]JEDI-Salvation, that model is incredible! [http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif]

Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JEDI-Salvation:

It takes in air through the back of its head and uses the organs on the side of its neck (bumps under the skin) to hear as noted.
</font>


So would he suffocate if he lied down on his back with his head on a pillow?

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2003-09-01, 3:03 PM #21
do you lie face down on a pillow? And its my alien da**it, he doesnt sleep or doesnt breathe for 12 hours...pick one [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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"...Those living for death will die by their own hand, Life's no ordeal if you come to terms, Reject the system dictating the norms..."
2003-09-01, 4:31 PM #22
I see ALOT of polys you can save in that model, other then that, looks ok to me.

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2003-09-01, 4:55 PM #23
I think it's fine. JO's are anywhere from two to four thousand, so he should be fine.

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2003-09-01, 5:21 PM #24
polycount 2350

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"...Those living for death will die by their own hand, Life's no ordeal if you come to terms, Reject the system dictating the norms..."
2003-09-01, 7:44 PM #25
Very cool, I want it now [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif] Really though, I like it.

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Semper Fi.
Semper Fi.
2003-09-02, 3:45 AM #26
A quote from your Neo model:

"I don't have time to learn to model, you'll have to live without the trenchcoat and sunglasses. Sorry." - Jedi-Salvation

You lying Son of a gun, you said you couldn't model! Pfff, That model is better then all 236 models I've made, and that's a true blue fact. Now you have absolutely NO excuse to redo the Neo skin, period.

I still say it's extremely original, and looks nothing like a Protoss. If you skin this with as much excelence as I know you have, then I will love you, give you many Ten's on your models and skins, then feed you my first born... hell, my last born too.

JediKirby

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2003-09-02, 4:43 AM #27
lol kirby. thanks. Ive gotten the model capped and everything, but im starting to confuse myself on what to do next. Ive read spacemonkeys tutorial about 4 times by now but im still having trouble. I may have to weld the whole thing back together to form it around the stupid skeleton...not looking foward to that. I dont know how to use 3ds Max yet so thats going to slow the progress here greatly, i modeled the mesh in lightwave. I had to redo the arms at the shoulder because it was too messy there and couldnt segment it properly. Anyway, does anybody know of an easier tutorial for bones set up and segmentation and all that besides spacemonkeys and the addendum? Or would anybody like to help me with this? I could use the advice from somebody whos done it before.
-S

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"...Those living for death will die by their own hand, Life's no ordeal if you come to terms, Reject the system dictating the norms..."
2003-09-02, 7:43 AM #28
Just a minor suggestion, but he's a pretty short little dude. I'm not sure what you had in mind, but personally I'd make his legs a little thicker and huskier and (perhaps) a little longer. In any case, I love the protoss look to this guy.

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2003-09-02, 7:46 AM #29
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jenny_Kitty:
I see ALOT of polys you can save in that model</font>


At that polycount, given the current flow and shape, I wouldn't suggest he take out anything.
2003-09-02, 7:54 AM #30
got it molded to the bones.

[http://www.massassi.net/ec/images/12529.jpg]

Am i doing this right?

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"...Those living for death will die by their own hand, Life's no ordeal if you come to terms, Reject the system dictating the norms..."
2003-09-02, 8:02 AM #31
Why does the face have more bones then the rest of his body? Are there facial expressions in JO!? I've never really took time to notice dissan's facial expressions as I pound him against the wall...

JediKirby

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2003-09-02, 8:18 AM #32
OMQ KRIBAY JOO DIDNT NOTIZE!!

But, indeed, there are. Though i don't know much a bout modeling, i'd say that looks good...

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In case you didn't notice in the post above; my English teacher is NOT my best friend...
2003-09-02, 9:13 AM #33
Well in the cutscenes Kyle did show facial expressions. ^.^

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2003-09-02, 9:49 AM #34
The extreme redness of Kyle's gum still annoys me...

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Call me Vedder.
Author of: A Pirate's Tale (Mots SP)
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<phantom> You're always going to be aloser if you attempt to aspire to massassi standards.
<phantom> They're a bunch of socially inadequate <beep> whores who have little or no lives.
APT 1, 2, 3/4, 5/6
TDT
DMDMD

http://veddertheshredder.com
2003-09-02, 10:17 AM #35
You should see his teeth. They're pretty **** yellow if you check the .jpg.
beautiful model.

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2003-09-02, 11:08 AM #36
Final polycount (after poly-triple) 3304.

Is that acceptable? i know theres like a 500 poly limit to each segment and there are 9 segments or something like that... :-/

-S

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"...Those living for death will die by their own hand, Life's no ordeal if you come to terms, Reject the system dictating the norms..."
2003-09-02, 11:59 AM #37
Godly.

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2003-09-02, 2:03 PM #38
Yes, that is a fine poly count. There's a 1024 vertex limit for each node of an MD3 model, and no limit on GLMs.

Kirby, JO has facial expressions and automatic lip syncing, just like every other relatively modern game.

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2003-09-03, 11:05 AM #39
Two things,

The first? What modeling app didja use? Sure ain't 3d max or milkshape or rinoceros.. Gmax? XSI maybe? Cuz XSI is the primary modeling tool used for most of ravens modeling. Secondary is 3d max.


Secoundly, 1024 for poloys is a limit for any guns or objects in a game? and if I read you correctly, player models have no limit? Inclduing NPC's?

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2003-09-03, 11:44 AM #40
Why would you be shocked at the use of 3ds max? It's great modeling software, Raven uses softimage|XSI because it can natively export to the dotXSI format they need, and probably personal preference on behalf of the modelers.

MD3s have a 1024 vertex limit for each node. Nodes, objects, meshes, it's all the same. An example would be a single hand or arm segment, or the magazine or scope of a gun. MD3s should only be used for map models (which have been phased out by PicoModels for new models), and internal gun models.

As far as I know, the GHOUL2 or GLM model format doesn't have any limits, but I would have to check the specifications in the code. If there are any limits, it isn't likey you would hit them any time soon.

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