This is a screenshot of the underground base in my new level. Questions? Comments? And gothicX and Cazor keep the critic level down please.

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There ya go.

That ceiling texture is in awful need of changing. Better than my first "real" level, though! By far!

[This message has been edited by Zell (edited September 18, 2003).]

Gah, I thought gothicX was a tad less critical than most. Cazor too. Cazor just likes to flaunt his 'skills' with words like 'vertex' and 'bezier patches'


I'm just kidding btw, cazor.

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[This message has been edited by Thrawn42689 (edited September 18, 2003).]

I think you should be addressing jedikirby, if anyone, about critical levels...

It reminds me a little too much of the Cairn level from the original game to be honest.



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I very rarely give hard crits unless the level really needs work, i have seen better from the author in the past, or i dont like the author. This Only needs some logical light sources... and please get it to JA. I cannot stand looking at JO anymore Its just so primative.

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Has a nice look to it, lack of light sources excepted. You maybe should lose that strangely shaped beam on the far wall, too. Trim along some of the edges, specifically where textures just run off, would make it look a lot more professional. $.02

If you were referring to my "review" of your first map; well, that one just deserved it.

And as for your Showcase: Looks pretty imperial, only think I don't really like is the fact that some things don't look logical. As mentioned the lighting, but also the "pillar" which is directly next to the wall. Doesn't look quite realistic, as it wouldn't be able to support anything. As well, the texture on those brushes in the middle doesn't look very good, as well as the ceiling one and the one below the lookout.

For the rest, I don't have that many bad comments. I think it looks much better than your first level, and you improved quite well. In the lookout, I also see some nice shadows (I think) which indicates good use of q3map2 shadow opions. Is this gonna be the same map as the one from the outdoor, greyscale you posted a while ago in your EC?

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There must be something wrong here because i cant see any of the posts on my thread.

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I'm not a bad reviewer, I'm just critical.

and I've got lots of problems with this level.

There are way too many cuts and bumps that are supposed to make the level look better, but they're only proving to be useless and out of place. The beam running along the wall to the right serves no purpose, the beems in the catwalk would do absolutely nothing for the catwalk, and the stuff below the catwalk on the wall look strange as well. I feel a loss of human symmetry, as where the room just plain feels shaped wrong. I like the texture use, but the lighting needs great work. It could also just be a horrible POV...

JediKirby

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About a week or so before JO was released, I had a dream about playing it. I was playing I a room with a walkway type thing on part of the ceiling, boxes around the place, and a funky space ship in the middle. And from what I can see in that screen shot, it looks almost exactly like the level I had a dream about playing.


Oh, nice work btw.

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I second that comment directed at kirby.

The level looks nice. the stuff coming out of the walls looks weird though... not really needed



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I agree, the ceiling texture just looks way out of place. I can't give you pointers on the technical aspect of this map since I know jack **** about level design. But it doesn't look that bad. Some better lighting too. But keep it up!



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OK, I was short for words earlier, and obiously poor with them as well (I was being rushed to get off the computer at school) now I can do a propper assesment:

The JPG compression is pretty bad, so that might be part of it, but the lighting looks increadably misplaced, whereas there really aren't any light sources at all besides the hanging florescent light that doesn't really actually seem to be immiting light what so ever.

The random brushes sticking out of the wall are completely out of place, and don't really make it look decored at all, simply because the place looks too industrial to have any archi-detail like that.

I'm sensing a lack of symmetry from the catwalk, as there are support beams on the upper corner, but a catwalk couldn't support itself like that unless that side was up against a wall (Which I though it was, at first, but after a second look, I discovered it wasn't) but it isn't.

Overall, the entire thing is all too busy, but some people like that, I'm just someone that doesn't. Technically, this level is great, you did a wonderful job with the tools, but visually it lacks for me.

In any case, good job with the nice brush development.

JediKirby

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You'd be much more coherent if you stopped trying to use elevated grammar and diction, because you're failing miserably.

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Ok im finally seeing the posts on my thread and yes gothicX this is the same level as the one in the EC. Its the underground part of the level. This is going to be a two level game. I will release the first level when i am almost done with the first one. Then i will release the next level.

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BTW sorry i screwed up on the picture. Compuserve hates all. Ill try some of the suggestions but whenever you change something someone always thinks its worse.

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Ive submitted a new screenshot. Its at the EC. If anyone would put the pic on this thread id be greatful because my ISP probably wont let me do it. I think this is the EC link

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Looks ok, but maybe you should darken it? It seems to have too much lightning in my opinion, and you should add sources fór the lights. Keep it up.
(edit: Oh, and you should do something for that part of the wall near the ceiling, you should align it correctly!)

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[This message has been edited by Heke7 (edited September 21, 2003).]

ZING!

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Hmm,that little box in the last shot looks misplaced, as well as the floor texture. Also, try to experiment a bit more with shadows, they can make your level twice as good if used correctly.

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Yes, the floor needs better texture... Also, just noticed that the corridor you se in the picture, has wall textures not aligned.

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Why is Kyle so skinny looking in the last screen shot?

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Crappy jpeg compression, Ganondorf.

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Hmmph, looks like part of the picture was stretched to me.

And I like the first screenie, just the aforementioned texture. And in the second screenie, also those textures near the ceiling need alignment, as mentioned.

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Yah i didnt feel like doing a real great job fitting the screenshot.

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Here's one thing that bothers me about both screens... I can't stand the textures! Sorry to say, but it's true. :/

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Now I wonder, Xizor, did you already try to solve the problems mentioned in this thread? If so, please post a screenshot.

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actually, i havent yet. Ive had about this >< much time. Ill get around to it eventually.

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Ill post another pic tom. just to keep the thread alive. Now Ive actually figured out how to post pics so its all good.

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Ok here it is. The outside of the level before you go into the underground part where my previous screenshots are seen.


I like the lighting here so dont try to make me change it cause it aint happening.

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Get GTK and q3map2 so you can compile and have the rocks cast nice shadows.

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[This message has been edited by gothicX (edited September 27, 2003).]

And change it to JA so the overall quality is better.

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I dont have JA yet Cazor and I probably wont get it until next month.

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I gave a lot more space here to fight the boss reborns BTW.

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