My upcoming level. this is only my second one, so go easy, and i'm no pro at lighting (obviously). anyway, hope it doesn't look to bad compared to my last JK MP effort, Sector 3027-AA.

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[This message has been edited by DS-181-4 (edited October 12, 2003).]

[This message has been edited by DS-181-4 (edited October 12, 2003).]

Looks good!

I would love it if you made the floor in the hanger look reflexive.

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"The Tenloss Disruptor was outlawed throughout the galaxy because it's such a stupid gun"

Looks pretty good, but I suggest getting some new textures.

EDIT: Which editor did you use.

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[This message has been edited by MysteriousSith (edited October 12, 2003).]

Yes, new textures are a must. It looks pretty good archi-wise though!

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[This message has been edited by Gebohq (edited December 28, 2003).]

Looks a tad boxy, but before I see boxy I see horrible texturing. Use textures that actually tile pretty.

Lighting IS your friend. Other than all that, you've got some good starting skills.

JediKirby

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I don't like the floor texture too musch. It is a bit...common.

Do you think making the hanger floor reflexive is too hard? If you did that, this would be the first JK level I seen with a nice hanger effect..

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"The Tenloss Disruptor was outlawed throughout the galaxy because it's such a stupid gun"

It's been done, but its hard as hell and it kills framerates if there is anything more than a shuttle in the hanger. It requires you to duplicate the room, upside down, and make the floor translucent. So not only are you doubling the polygons, your using a translucent texture, which only adds to the problems.


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I am addicted to ellipses!!! AHHH!!! ...

I did that in JED once. Making the floor reflexive may kill the framerate, I guess.

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"The Tenloss Disruptor was outlawed throughout the galaxy because it's such a stupid gun"

Actually I did that in JKEdit

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"The Tenloss Disruptor was outlawed throughout the galaxy because it's such a stupid gun"

Actually, i should complement you for being the first person to post a level with original JK textures and stuff in a while

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Thanx for the overall positive feedback. Yeah. sthe textures are a bit repetitive in those particular shots, but that's only a small portion of the whole level.
The lighting in the first shot has been fixed up.
As with the whole reflective floor, i wouldn't be able to do it considering, if you look in the first shot, you'll see a hole in the floor. there is more areas underneath the floor. I agree it would be **** pretty, but as has been said, it would be slow, and i'd be currint into other sectors so it'd look horrible.
I used JED by the way. i dislike JKEdit muchly. I stared using it for my first level Sector 3027-AA, but realised i was barely half done and i'd reached my sector limit, and it looked horrible.
Any way, i'll take into acount the whole texturing thing, but i like some of the textures there, and i'm lazy.
Where can i get some really good mats that would suit the level?

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I applaud you for making those textures actually look pretty good in this level.

However, I do agree with the majority of.. people.. that you probably want to get better ones. massassi has countless mediocre levels with standard textures all over the place, but not many good levels with good textures..

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Nice!
May the force be with you...

The new lighting needs a LOT of work.

JediKirby

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As I can see from the other shots you're not lacking in skills when it comes to architecture and detail.. so you might wanna use those skills more on the main hangar area. It looks very bland.

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*sighhhhh*
Another beautiful level for JA or JO wasted on JK.

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...Die.

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Dude, JK kicks a**!

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JK is not a waste! Keep saying that and you will hurt the "soul" of Massassi..

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"The Tenloss Disruptor was outlawed throughout the galaxy because it's such a stupid gun"

Dude, there would not be a JA or JA if it weren't for how cool JK is.

As far as the level goes, it looks great, but the hangar needs a new texture or two. It seems that everything blends together. If only we knew where some cool Star Destroyer textures were, we'd be in business.

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[This message has been edited by Tazz (edited October 14, 2003).]

Yeah, i realise the hangar is a little bland and empty. I'm gonna throw a few crates or somethin in there, although it's not like hangars really have alot in them.

I think everyone has said 'most everything in reply to that odd fellow who indirectly said JK was not as good as JO. Graphically, he/she is correct. As far as storyline goes, jk's levels really keep in line with the whole thing and don't have stupid things like floating box rooms in a big pit and no real way to get to them except by jumping about with the force. how many imperial guys use the force? about 3. anyway, my point is JK has a really awesome feel about it, even thought the archi isn't as smooth as outcast.

hmmm. i seem to have reeeeealy long posts recently.

so does anyone know where i can get some cool mats that would suit a SD? please?


...riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. How 'bout no, Cazor, ok?

If someone would like to help me out with lighting 'twould be much appreciated. email me an i'll send you the level. DS1814@death-star.com

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[This message has been edited by DS-181-4 (edited October 15, 2003).]

He was referring to Xizor's comment about JK, I believe.

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Wow, it's the first JK level based on a Star Destroyer that actually looks like a Star Destroyer. Good job! If you made the bridge and showed a pic here that would be awesome...I'm sure you'd make it accurate to the movies.

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False statement. It is easier, if you have the exaperience and skills to do it.

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...Same with JK, gothicX.

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"The Tenloss Disruptor was outlawed throughout the galaxy because it's such a stupid gun"

Gah! The JPEG compression hurts my eyes!

The level looks pretty darned good though.

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"Our technological advancement has ountun our spiritual advancement. We have guided missiles and misguided men."

Looks pretty true to the ISD layout. Some areas are a little boxy..but..some..areas..are..boxy..so, it's fine.

Also, I have a friendly tip for the people hijacking this thread with their argument: stop.

I would make the bridge (and yes i would make it as true to the movies as i could(from memory)), but if you know anything about the layout of a Star Destroyer you'd know that they are quite...sizeable. considering this is a DM level, i don't wanna make it too damned big. If i make a SP version (IF) then i'd prolly have a bridge and make the whole thing a series of levels coz it would be so **** big.

Just thought i'd let ya know that i've retextured the floor of the two hangars (still an LEC mat). I'm thinking of keeping with LEC mats. i can't be bothered getting new ones. i might get one or two though. i'll see.

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*a dancing banana*

It needs lighting, and a better choice of textures in the small hallways. Otherwise, the archi fits fine with the level.

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"The future is not determined by a throw of the dice, but is determined by the conscious decisions of you and me."
I am addicted to ellipses!!! AHHH!!! ...

now that we know that it needs retexturing, can someone tell me where i can get some suitable textures? please.

by the way, i'm not very good at lighting so i can't really fix it up much better than it is. sorry folks.

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Yeah, an ImpStar is big, but remember there's the Star Wars equivilant of turbolifts all over. Just have elevators that move real fast to cover the distance.

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The new shots are nice.

With the comments on JK and JO/JA editing, in my personal experience, it is easier to make better maps with the Q3 engine than with JK, becuause of the brush/patch system. It's just easier, because you don't have to worry where you need to segment your sectors to make your archi work and now hom and stuff... ok I gtg so I can't elaborate heh...

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[This message has been edited by Gebohq (edited December 28, 2003).]

Needs much better texturing. JK/MotS textures are good for small, enclosed areas, and aren't as good for large, expansive areas such as the star destroyer hangar. Plus JK textures are all 8-bit, even though the engine supports 16-bit.

Try making your own textures. I know, I know, it's too much to learn. But it pays off in the end. The more practice you get making your own textures now, the better looking end-result you have.

I recommend PaintShopPro version 6.0 (I hear that the earlier versions were easier to use, but the later versions do have more functions) to build your textures.

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[This message has been edited by bombshellrapture (edited October 20, 2003).]

where can i get paint shop pro for free?

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I just found a million dollars that someone forgot

i'm thinking of making a small dualing level of the bridge just for you two, Saxman and Kievan.

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Sector 3027 - AA

Warez = Forbidden.

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They often give away older versions of programs on magazine coverdisks in an effort to get people to buy the newer version. I had PSP4 for several years via this method. Keep your eyes open.

Also, you can download a demo of PSP from the JASC website: http://www.jasc.com/download_4.asp

Another option is to go for The GIMP. This is open source, so the complete program can be downloaded for free.



Not all 'free' versions of commercial programs are warez.