I have been working on a good version of Canyon Oasis from the original Jedi Knight. This version was NOT converted using the utility provided by dr0id but it was scaled using the utility. So I have come up with a very accurate, no leak representation of Canyon Oasis. I have some things left to do however (such as remake all the textures because LEC frowns on giving out textures to their other games). But before I start on that I would like people’s opinions as to what they would like done with it. Should I go for exact architecture or should I try and enhance it? Any other suggestions would be appreciated. I realize there is already a canyon oasis remake on Massassi but I wasn't satisfied with its quality. Thanks in advance for your ideas!





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looks nice, but I would definatly recomend enchancing it.

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By enhancing, improve the textures

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I know I need to improve the textures... but before I do I want to know what people want

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Ok a few more pictures for the collection:


[edit] Removed JK-JO comparison look below for better pictures
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[This message has been edited by SwedishBorgie (edited October 31, 2003).]

I'm not sure if you noticed this, but all of your textures are 4 times too small.

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I noticed this but being as I have to redo all of the textures I haven't fixed it. I would imagine lucasarts isn't too fond of copying textures to copyrighted games. I intend to fix the problem simply by making new textures for everything

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Uhhhmmm... okay. Tell us when its updated then, cause yeah... using Jk's textures is illegal as you stated.

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He already said he's going to replace the textures twice. And I don't see why you're complaining about the textures, 'cause that's not what he's showcasing.

Personally, I'd say do two versions; original and "enhanced (or whatever you would like to call it)." That conversion is too sweet to not have an original version.. it's quite nostalgic.

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Wow, it looks like crap! Hey, just like the origional!

With all the possibilities of the q3 engine, you decide to make a remake of a level that looks like crap because it was made for an engine with serious limitations. And it wasn't really optimized much, because user-made levels have proven that much better architecture is possible in JK.

IF, you really intend to continue this. I'd say keep only, and I mean ONLY, the origional layout of Oasis. Make something beatifull, with realistic rock walls, metal girders, complex architecture, good textures (you're already working on them, good! remember don't try to imitate lec's textures, make better ones, much better ones. Or download textures with a similar feel.)
If you do these things, I think it would be great. Because it would be great to have a better version of Oasis for JO. But I don't see the need for an exact replica, with all it's flaws still intact.

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and on a sidenote, compress your images! I had to download 3 megs to view this thread.

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Dude... it's not hard to scale all the textures in the level up by 4 even just for a screenie or two.

Select al the brushesby inverting an empty selection, and then either scale up vertically and horizontally 4x, or use the surface inspector to do it. Easy.

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[This message has been edited by Gebohq (edited December 28, 2003).]

Add a nice bit more to it. And, detail will be your new best friend for awhile....make a note of it.

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I'd have to say I prefer Dad`Mad's version. You didn't even scale up the textures. And yes, it does need more detail.

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I never thought I'd actually say this and mean it, but the JK version looks better.

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add aritechtural detail.
make the rock walls look like rock.

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Pride- 1 Peter 5:5, Dan. 4:37
Worry- 1 Peter 5:7, Phil. 4:7-6
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I AM NOT USING THOSE TEXTURES!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just thought I'd note that for people who didn't read my other posts I am changing them so they look more realistic. Basicly I was just showing off the architexture which was supposed to be identical to the JK version. I will attempt to put more screenies up soon but this weekend is busy. For all the people who really care about scaling them up I suppose I can post a enlarged tex. Screenshot or two.

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The levels looks big (maybe the illusions by the textures)

By the way, could you have a third person view in both versions of level so we can compare size
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[This message has been edited by Echoman (edited October 30, 2003).]

Ok here are the streched tex pics with a reference point. My version looks a little smaller but I think thats just the way the engines render the levels. I based my scale off of being able to fit in holes and how it looked just tabbing back and forth but it looks pretty good and once again I AM NOT SUBMITTING WITH THESE TEXTURES. Thank you

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Water's too bright, and the texture in the pool walls needs to be moved down so the stripes are at the waterline.

IJS"LJ"PF"LPFJ:LFKJL:FJFL:KJG:LFKJGL:KFJLKGJLF:KJFD:JDFL:GFL:FDJ *generally goes bonkers*

WILL PEOPLE STOP COMMENTING ON THE TEXTURES!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!!??!?!

I AM NOT USING THESE!!! THEY WILL BE CHANGED!!!

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING!!!!!

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He wasn't complaining about the texture, he was telling you to reposition it so it would fit correctly instead of looking how it does now. Next time read through the post thoroughly before yelling at him.

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[This message has been edited by Gebohq (edited December 28, 2003).]

Looks good, (incidently Dad*Mad's version sucked, it was wayyyyy too small), it'd be nice to see some architectural enhancements though.

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Whoa, calm down. I was just suggesting you reposition those textures, not change them, as Dark Knight said.

He is changing them however. So what is the point of repositioning it if it's going to be changed anyways? So in part, his rant was warranted. Textures don't really matter. Though two things, please change the shadows, make them come at an angle or something instead of right down under the catwalks. Also, darken the pool of water. And it'd be cool if you could get the sky to move like the original (talking about how it moved and looked in general, but nicer newer texture would be good...)

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Yep sorry about that fellas lol but I saw textures for the sixth or so time and I just lost it lol. I plan to make the sky move with a portal skybox if that makes any sence. I'll post it when I get it sorry about the rant

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