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I like to draw (pen and paper), and do so often, I don't believe I've ever showcased something here, though. I never had any lessons or anything, so I don't know all the tricks, but I progressed a lot in the last few years, on my own. IMHO.

Now with drawing on my pc, that's a different story. I tried a couple times, but it always ended up like utter rubbish. I just don't have the control over a mouse like I have over a pencil. (Ofcourse that could be solved with such a USB pencil thingy, but meh. I just like the effects you can do with carbon, it's easy to shade things and make sharp lines with the same tool (the pencil))

Now I thought, maybe I could enhance my drawings on my pc. With a pencil I can only do greyshades. What If I colour the thing in Paint Shop Pro.

So I got working on it. I don't have much PSP experience (nor any other painting program for that matter.) but I kind of like how it turned out, certainly for a first try!

I didn't compressed it much, because JPG already screwed up all the layers, and compression made it even worse. So you'll have to chew the large filesize.

Now here's the origional drawing:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~ceekelen/drawing/coenotext.jpg

It's a drawing I made nearly a year ago, it's not as good as my recent ones. I now use more variations in tone (for the shades) and make my drawings usually darker. (oh, and it's inspired by Final Fantasy, a little bit.)

This is my end result:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~ceekelen/drawing/coecolour.jpg

Some notes:

-Yes the background is just a standard PSP texture, it's just a placeholder
-The eyes were intended that way, she's the Goddess of Darkness after all
-Didn't have time yet to smooth out the silhoutte, it's still jaggy. But I'll remove that in time.

I'd like your opinions on it.

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Call me Vedder.
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[This message has been edited by ZOOIkes (edited December 10, 2003).]

nice

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I like the original drawing far more than the colored.

Suggestions:
• Get rid of the bright colors if you want this to be a Goddess of Darkness.
• Make her skin tone darker.
• Give her a misty-looking black aura.

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They came to sieze and take whatever they please,
Then all they gave back was death and disease.

I agrees with Arjay

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One ring to rule them all. One to find them. One ring ti bring them all and in the darkness bind them. In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

Yea, great drawing. I would suggest what archerjay said, lose the blue and yellow... other than that, its great!

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Well I had already had the bright colours in mind when I hadn't even thought of colouring yet. The idea is, that balance must been maintained. And since she's so dark from the 'inside' (morals, way of thinking etc.) her bright apperal balances that out. Plus this way it'll fit better in the book I'm 'using' this character in.
I was already thinking about changing the flag though, the white contrasts too much with the black symbol.

The black aura is an excellent idea! I'll defenitely implement that! I don't know exactly how I'm going to make it yet, but I'm sure I'll figure something out.

I'm also looking for a fitting background, I might use a screenshot of my JO level for it (modified to fit the scene ofcourse.)

I also just noticed (after a friend pointed it out) that the shadow at the left armpit is too intense, I'll have to fix that too.

I'll post some updates as soon as I have had time to work on it again.

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Call me Vedder.
Author of: A Pirate's Tale (Mots SP)
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<phantom> You're always going to be aloser if you attempt to aspire to massassi standards.
<phantom> They're a bunch of socially inadequate <beep> whores who have little or no lives.

[This message has been edited by ZOOIkes (edited December 04, 2003).]

Yeah... I wondered why she had a black armpit. O_o

awesome drawing man...my only complaint is I never pictured the goddess of darkness to be in an eggshell blue "pretty pretty princess" dress...but to each his own.

Cheers
-S

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[This message has been edited by JEDI-Salvation (edited December 04, 2003).]

Erm, where are my manners. I forgot to say that the drawing is very well done.

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They came to sieze and take whatever they please,
Then all they gave back was death and disease.

Thanks

Hmm, I might also make the yellow parts on her dress black, because I think it stands out too much and black would indeed fit better.

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Call me Vedder.
Author of: A Pirate's Tale (Mots SP)
APT homepage
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<phantom> You're always going to be aloser if you attempt to aspire to massassi standards.
<phantom> They're a bunch of socially inadequate <beep> whores who have little or no lives.

Whoa. I hadn't commented earlier, because as the first picture loaded I said to myself that you had shown it to me before. The new one is excellent.

My only complaint as far as the actual drawing goes is that the transition from *cough* uhh... chest to stomache doesn't look quite right to me... Too wide or something, perhaps..

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Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin
http://www.writings-emag.net The next big thing since individually wrapped cheese slices (coming soon).

Yeah, thats great and all . . . but where is my goddess of light?

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Fight the future.

thats really nice both the original and the coloured - altho whats that dark mark near her left armpit

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Rah!

Update!





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Call me Vedder.
Author of: A Pirate's Tale (Mots SP)
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<phantom> You're always going to be aloser if you attempt to aspire to massassi standards.
<phantom> They're a bunch of socially inadequate <beep> whores who have little or no lives.

wee update! Looks cool.. Did you do anything with her armpit? Still looks dark. The flag looks a lot better, and the black aura thing is cool, though it seems to clash with her hair a bit. Not sure what to do there, but you might want to fiddle with that a bit. Also, you might want to apply some sort of edge-preserving blur or something to her, because she looks sort of... speckled, which wouldn't be a problem if the background looked that way, but since the background is smooth, it makes something seem out of place.

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Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin
http://www.writings-emag.net The next big thing since individually wrapped cheese slices (coming soon).

The hair does indeed clash with the aura thingy, but I didn't really knew what to do against it, without losing the detail of the hair. (ie fading it into each other) Any suggestions are appreciated.

About the armpit still being dark, what would you suggest: a) make it lighter, or b) make all the shadows darker. I tend to go for option b...

I want to keep the speckledness, since it's part of my 'style' and I like it. This will obviously lead to the fact that I have to change backgrounds again. And most likely have to draw it myself with a pencil to get the same effect. Now drawing non-humanoid creatures isn't exactly my forté, but it's worth a try since it will add a lot I think.
I'm thinking about some temple-like background.

I also want to make the eyes a tad brighter again to what the were in the first colourpicture. It's overdone now, I think

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Call me Vedder.
Author of: A Pirate's Tale (Mots SP)
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<phantom> You're always going to be aloser if you attempt to aspire to massassi standards.
<phantom> They're a bunch of socially inadequate <beep> whores who have little or no lives.

This is what I'm planning to use as a background, it's a very simple sketch into which I didn't put too much effort, but it's only for a background (and I don't really enjoy drawing buildings). I believe I got the perspective right, eventhough it would have probably been wiser to use a ruler, since my freehand straight line drawing ability is very poor as you might see

Going to colour this and implement it later.

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Call me Vedder.
Author of: A Pirate's Tale (Mots SP)
APT homepage
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<phantom> You're always going to be aloser if you attempt to aspire to massassi standards.
<phantom> They're a bunch of socially inadequate <beep> whores who have little or no lives.

[This message has been edited by ZOOIkes (edited December 10, 2003).]

You wouldn't mind me using that last sketch as a reference for my WIP's hallway, would you?

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go right ahead

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Call me Vedder.
Author of: A Pirate's Tale (Mots SP)
APT homepage
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<phantom> You're always going to be aloser if you attempt to aspire to massassi standards.
<phantom> They're a bunch of socially inadequate <beep> whores who have little or no lives.

And then I'd like to show the final result:



I think it's about done!

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Call me Vedder.
Author of: A Pirate's Tale (Mots SP)
APT homepage
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<phantom> You're always going to be aloser if you attempt to aspire to massassi standards.
<phantom> They're a bunch of socially inadequate <beep> whores who have little or no lives.

Looks really good... She still seems a touch overly-speckly around the edges... You might consider smoothing that just a tad... Other than that, great work...

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Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin
http://www.writings-emag.net The next big thing since individually wrapped cheese slices (coming soon).

Why do Dutch people keep making awesome things?

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I'd personally suggest changing dress color to white or something (Would make even more sense with your idea of balance) The anatomy looks a bit off in areas. The elbow in particular... That, might be possible, I'll emphasize the might, but it'd be rather difficult, uncomfortable, and irregular. The shadows on her left arm seem too dark. And the torso looks a bit off for a woman, unless she's wearing a corset or something. It's generally a curve instead of a straight line. Looks pretty good overall, though.

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i love what you call 'insanely large' pictures... sometime i'm gonna post my 2480x1600 desktop images, photos, or art.

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oh yeh wlel i jsut gots finesht wiht my morrwoind mod for teh JO An it takes up teh 900 gigabiets of spaec but i wlil not sowh yuo gyz teh scrnshoots becasue we dunat kare wut u gyz tihnk ne1 no wear i kan get ti hostad 4 dounlowd!!!!11!111 --Checksum

Hehe , that was to make sure I wouldn't have people moaning about topic loading time

That the anatomy might be a bit off, is because I drew her without any example or anything.

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Call me Vedder.
Author of: A Pirate's Tale (Mots SP)
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<phantom> You're always going to be aloser if you attempt to aspire to massassi standards.
<phantom> They're a bunch of socially inadequate <beep> whores who have little or no lives.

If you have time, one of best ways is just a mirror, making sure you can move like that, lol. And as for anatomy of girls, just look at a few...

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Cast Your Spell On Me
Beware
The Woods At Night
The Wolf Has Come

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