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"I like cell shading." "Oooh yeah.. Well, I'll cell shade you!!"
2003-12-20, 9:15 PM #1
Ok, so I was bored last night, and decided to play around in photoshop. Midget Basher had inspired me with one of his pictures to try out cell shading. The following are the results.

Original Pic:
[http://www.zaccohn.com/marisa.jpg]

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What do you think? Anywhere I should focus on and try to fix?

Comments/Suggestions/Flames?

[Edit- Oh http://... how I loath you.]
[Edit2- Bugger. I keep forgetting to fix the part where the real shirt overlapped and came out of the black line.. Ignore that, and I'll fix it tomorow morning. It's 0316 right now..]
[Edit3- Ok, so apparently this is called Vectorizing, not cell shading. *shrug*]
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2003-12-20, 9:20 PM #2
The eyes. You can't really see them in the original picture.

Otherwise, uh... good. I think. Sort of zonked right now.

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2003-12-20, 10:43 PM #3
Body: Good.
Face: Mannish. (Not good.)
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2003-12-20, 11:12 PM #4
Yea, everything looks good but the face. Mainly the eyes and mouth (lips).

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2003-12-20, 11:35 PM #5
And the nose looks... pig-like. blocky and pig-like.

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2003-12-20, 11:37 PM #6
More cow-like.

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2003-12-20, 11:39 PM #7
Pretty much what they all said about the face.

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2003-12-21, 2:11 AM #8
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gothicX:
More cow-like.

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... [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2003-12-21, 2:45 AM #9
[http://gas.outlaw-inc.com/imagecorner/24/5.jpg] OMG BRUCE WITH THE HUGE NOSTRIL!...I dunno, I got bored....PHEAR MY 1337 MS PAINT SKILLZ

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2003-12-21, 4:15 AM #10
Mr. Threadjacker, please come with me.

It all looks great excepting perhaps the part where you painted over the lines on the left (I guess there isn't anything you can do about that now), and you might want to work on the lines inder the breasts; they really don't match the shading.
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2003-12-21, 4:43 AM #11
happydud, here's a tip. Start from dark and moderate up to the lights. That sorta works for me. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

Keep in mind of the darks (like around the eyes, ears, etc)

Great job though.

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2003-12-21, 5:03 AM #12
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by happydud:
Midget Basher had inspired me with one of his pictures to try out cell shading. The following are the results.

</font>


Hrmmm... his picture? No offense to midget basher if this is him in the photo... but it sure does look like a woman to me. Maybe... its just the feminine figure... and the breats.

Anyways, other than that i just think its too blocky. Make thing curvier and you can prolly make areas where things are too big a lot more accurate.


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2003-12-21, 5:18 AM #13
Thanks for the tips guys.

Acharjay and the Face Bashers- Hmm.. I see that now. I'll work on it some more.

Grissy- Actually, I can fix that coloring-out-of-the-lines. It's still saved as a .psd, so I'll just use the eyedropper tool and just swath over it. It'll work, damnit!

Echoman- Thanks for the tip. I did light to dark.. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]
Cazor- That wasn't Midget, it was his feminine like friend. This is the guy his was done over: http://corktooth.dyndns.org/~tenebram/chelleorig.png (sorry about the load time, apparently he doesn't like jpgs.. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif])

Oh yeah, and does anyone have any tips on how to do the mouth/teeth? I'm at a loss..

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2003-12-21, 5:43 AM #14
You seem to have left out a lot of detail, but then you put a lot of unneseccary and incorrect detail into the face. Wassupwidat?

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2003-12-21, 5:57 AM #15
Refresh for an update pic. Still working on the mouth.

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2003-12-21, 8:22 AM #16
It's called vectorizing, but normally done with a vector graphics program (flash, illustrator, freehand). Cell shading is more like the chelleorig.png image.

There's an entire art community devoted to vector graphics (I'm assuming yours aren't actually vector, but the techniques still apply mostly).

http://juniatwork.mrtio.com/ <--- best vector work ever, but he uses meshes. You won't be able to get that shading without em heh, which in turn requires illustrator.

http://graphic-forums.com/showthread.php?s=ff944d504def106bfdb63a121638f198&threadid=5482&perpage=15&pagenumber=1 <-- great for examples on stuff (teeth etc.). It's a thread where people are showing off vector work. I'll warn that there is a pic or two of naked women (very well done, I might add). So it's NWS/NSS.

I personally don't dig vector work, so I can't give any tips.
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2003-12-21, 5:56 PM #17
The eyes should be more shadowed, I think. Other than that, it looks good.

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2003-12-21, 6:33 PM #18
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by happydud:
Acharjay and the Face Bashers</font>


If I ever start a band, that's what I'm gonna call it. Thanks!
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2003-12-21, 6:44 PM #19
No problem Achar. I live to serve. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

And the this next update (at the top again) is probably one of the last. I'm approaching the launch date! The original picture sucked.. I wish the res. was higher. Anyway. I redid all of the black lines, so everything is more defined now, fixed some kindergarden errors (coloring outside the lines), and removed some unneccesary black lines.

Kudos to MadQuack for the idea for the new(er) mouth.

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2003-12-21, 9:14 PM #20
I need your help. Which do you think looks better:

1.
[http://www.zaccohn.com/cellris.jpg]

2.
[http://www.zaccohn.com/cellris2.jpg]

Decisions, decisions.. She's coming over and I'm showing it to her in T-7 hours, so i need some votes by then!

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2003-12-21, 9:16 PM #21
You could always like... show her both, and let her tell you which she likes best [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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2003-12-21, 9:19 PM #22
Background one.

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2003-12-21, 10:20 PM #23
It's like she went from white to being asian in a matter of seconds.

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2003-12-22, 12:04 AM #24
Her face looks even more like a guy now [http://forums.massassi.net/html/eek.gif]

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The cartoony version looks better, but the face is too strong-ish..

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2003-12-22, 7:47 AM #25
they eyes need more shadow. their alot darker in the photo and look unnatural now.
Also, the eyes are not open as wide in the photo.

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2003-12-22, 2:37 PM #26
Keep the background. And the skin tone is much much much to orange. Think a peach color. Upper lip is too fat. I don't know how possible but need shadows for the cheeks so that clearly shows she's smiling.

But you're coming along. Keep it up!

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2003-12-22, 3:25 PM #27
Gah, I haven't been here in ages, but happydud just linked me to here.
Good Job, happydud. It's interesting that you used only straight lines for borders...

By way of note, the image that you linked to is the image I'm working on with all the color and lighting layers removed. Here is the image with the current color and lighting layers in. I'm still right in the middle of the face, and I think it looks like crap right now.

Anyway, yeah, good job. Face is nice. Mouth needs work. Good Job overall.

[edit]Gandalf's right, skin tone is off. Try sampling a color from the original to get a good skin tone.[/edit]

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2003-12-22, 5:09 PM #28
Delete the face and start over.

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2003-12-23, 12:49 PM #29
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2003-12-23, 6:37 PM #30
Maybe try some outlines around the face.

Also, its cel shading with one "l" [http://forums.massassi.net/html/smile.gif]

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2003-12-23, 6:49 PM #31
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">his feminine like friend</font>


At least it actually was a girl.
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2003-12-23, 7:41 PM #32
The cartoon is hotter than the real thing.

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2003-12-24, 8:48 AM #33
That's not very nice.

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2003-12-24, 6:14 PM #34
or true. did you show it to her yet?

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2003-12-25, 4:10 PM #35
Yup. She really liked it. 'Cept for the mouth..



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