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The Jedi's Demsie
2003-12-30, 4:54 PM #1
Hello all, I am Zappa of Jedi-Outcast Movies. We have put out a trailer for The Jedi's Demise, a fan film made from JO and JA. You can find the trailer here:

http://www.pcgamemods.com/3633/

You need real media player to view it. We will be releasing the whole movie very soon. The movie has been planned to be over 2hrs long. Our website is http://www.jedioutcastmovies.2ya.com .
2003-12-30, 5:21 PM #2
"Much anticipation I sense in you" LOL!

It was great, i like the look of it.
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2003-12-30, 5:22 PM #3
That looks cool. It must be an aweful lot of work! I really like your music editing, it matched the trailer quite well.

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2003-12-30, 5:23 PM #4
good thing you have a fast server thats hosting it if its gonna be over 2 hours long! that was...interesting. extremely choppy and bad voice acting though. ill wait for the final though.

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2003-12-31, 10:12 AM #5
1. Set RealMedia on fire and use a better format. Hell, even QUICKTIME is better.

2. For the love of god, get a better framerate. It was painful just watching it.

3. Either use better timing on the music, or don't use it at all.



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2003-12-31, 4:40 PM #6
Well I would use something else but Real Media is the smallest file size we can get the movie right now.I will try to get a .mov file up sometime later. And sound and music time was fine, your pc must be lagging. For the rest thanks for the positive comments.
2003-12-31, 5:57 PM #7
Well... I didn't like the movie one bit. It was ugly, choppy, and very cheasy.

I'm not sure if you can do animations in JA yet, and if you can, by god, make some.

The voice acting is... scary. But of course, this is a group of people working in their spare time, it's still a scary group of people working in their spare time.

JediKirby

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2003-12-31, 6:57 PM #8
your mom is a scary group of people working in their spare time.


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2004-01-01, 5:05 PM #9
Ugly, I see nothing ugly about it.
Its not that choppy either.
Very cheasy, I think not.

I would like to see you make a movie from a game! And if your gonna post comments about other things, dont even bother posting at all!
2004-01-02, 8:40 AM #10
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Zappa:
Ugly, I see nothing ugly about it.
Its not that choppy either.
Very cheasy, I think not.

I would like to see you make a movie from a game!
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2004-01-02, 8:55 AM #11
<3 thrawn[numbersgohere]

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2004-01-02, 9:09 AM #12
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2004-01-02, 9:12 AM #13
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Zappa:
I would like to see you make a movie from a game! And if your gonna post comments about other things, dont even bother posting at all!</font>


See, why in the hell would you post that movie here if you weren't willing to accept criticism... I mean, did you post it in hopes everyone would bow and call you a god?

I was trying to help you, and wasn't as blunt and hurtful as I could have been, because this movie down-right sucks, but at least your trying. And just because I haven't made a movie in a game, doesn't mean I can't tell when a movie-game isn't up to my own standards. If they have eyes, they will criticise.

JediKirby

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2004-01-02, 10:39 AM #14
Use XviD or DivX

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2004-01-02, 11:32 AM #15
From what i saw, it look promising, thats all i can say really...

It must be dificult to make a movie using resources like a game, lay off him a little

the voice acting for the padme character was kinda weird, but and the vidoe quality was bad, but since this is a trailer i expect you to be polishing that up later.

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2004-01-02, 11:38 AM #16
Yeah, I'd love to see this thing but I can't view it because I have no earthly clue what a .rm file is [http://forums.massassi.net/html/frown.gif]

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2004-01-02, 12:15 PM #17
real media?

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2004-01-03, 12:14 PM #18
Grant the female character is Lara Sparx. Also I am listening, im thinking of investing into FRAPS for the next movie. Kirby this wasnt the whole movie, it was a trailer of the movie to come. And Kirby what is your so called standards, please share those with the rest of us. And yes the trailor is in Real Media format.
2004-01-03, 4:49 PM #19
Visuals that make sense, a bit more artistic way of showing who's talking, rather than just a closeup of their face, Non-choppy media-formates and framerates, voice acting that doesn't make me want to grasp my ears and cry 'For the love of Davey Crocket, make it stop!', some decent control over events, as to actually understand what the final movie might actually be about, except yoda talking like he's giving birth, a golden mandelorian shooting a green mandelorian, and Someone who seemed to sound like he was a 13 year old boy giving someone else the clone army.

I'm sorry, I was honest and polite the first time I commented, but you keep on pissing and moaning. It may be difficult, but I have in-fact seen a good movie pulled off, in JO. You have the ICARUS scripting language, plus the fact that JA is 10x better than JO going for you, yet you seem to think that me commenting on your lack of artistic, theatrical, and effort is somehow incorrect because you really worked hard on what I see. Just because you made it, doesn't make it good. You have to accept constructive criticism and be thankful you get it, instead of pissy and in deniel. Honestly, you can just scroll your little mouse-wheel right over my posts, and you know what? I won't loose any sleep over it.

JediKirby

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2004-01-03, 4:54 PM #20
i agree with kirby, for once.

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2004-01-03, 5:44 PM #21
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Zappa:
Ugly, I see nothing ugly about it.
Its not that choppy either.
Very cheasy, I think not.

I would like to see you make a movie from a game! And if your gonna post comments about other things, dont even bother posting at all!
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It is most DEFINATELY choppy. Unless you are so used to playing the game at a framerate of less than 10 fps, then I pity you.

But, as everyone else has said, to sum it all up:

A. Use a better video codec. Divx is very nice. Realplayer, no matter how small, isn't worth it. Divx can produce MUCH better video, and the size isn't that much bigger. Not to mention having RM is like a sin anyway.

B. Get a faster computer or something to record the video. The framerate is so bad that it's literally painful to watch. And no, it wasn't my computer. It wasn't everyone's computer. The video played at 30fps, but the CONTENT recorded did not. The game must have been going at like 5 FPS. So uhh, actually watch your video next time, and don't blame poor video on someone's PC.

C. Use some scripting. JA does a whole lot of it, and works well. So, spend some more time, and script it. You'll be happy you did.

D. If you have a problem with constructive criticism, you came to the wrong place. We are trying to HELP YOU. You can take our advice, or ignore it. But whatever you do, don't throw it in our face.

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2004-01-03, 7:43 PM #22
FRAPS gets you very smooth video, and you can even record sound. Of course, playing in 640x480 or abouts helps a lot.

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2004-01-03, 9:22 PM #23
I agree with Kirby like most of us probably do.

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2004-01-05, 2:55 PM #24
1. The close ups of the face was the only choice because there are no mods out there to my knowlege that lets you do that.

2. I have showed the video to alot more other people, and they did not complain about the video being choppy.

3. The voices, we have done our best to find people to do the voices. We are not a budgeted team. Neither we cant go out and hire Frank Oz and others for voices.

4. The golden Mandlorian is Dun Setta. There is no green mandlorian, but theres a Silver one named Arlas Delsoy.

5. The framerate we use to film is 20fps and it has turned out well. And like I said we are working on the format.

6. I dont like to use scripting, I would rather work with real people. Working with real people with get you better effects and can do more stuff than a computer.

7. Emon have you use FRAPS before and if so can you tell me more about it?
2004-01-07, 6:03 AM #25
Everything you've said is no excuse. The Framerate DOES suck, there's no question about that. The voice acting, AS I mentioned in my first post is fine, since no one is getting paid, but if it were possible, I'd tone down some voices, maybe soften them up (There are free programs that can do all of the above).

and when I say scripts, I mean the game scripts, not actor scripts. If you don't have actor scripts, then it's a bit odd anyway, but if you don't use ICARUS, you might run into a few... errors like we see in your current product.

The entire purpose of the short film is to get across that there will be a movie out, and the movie will be about x and x and also, x. I only understand a vague discription of a few characters, and a few 'epic' speaches that carry no weight when no one has any idea what any of the film is about. SW and LotR can pull off no discription and just visuals fine, but a new storyline requires some details, which yours has not. I don't KNOW why those mandeloreans have signifigence, I don't know why those people are standing in-front of the man at the desk, and I have no idea why the bathroom yoda is talking about the clone wars, because I only see one shot about clones, and I'm not even informed the general timeline of the tale you tell. Overall, just a sloppy job. Stop trying to defend your pride, and admit it needs work, or ignore me. Either way, you need to redo your preview, and I'm guessing the majorety of the movie, if it's done anywhere near similar to this.

JediKirby

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