Well there was a surprisingly good response to the shots I posted last time, so here are some updates. These are shots of the entertainment district of Coruscant. Anybody who's played Bounty Hunter will recognise a lot of the things in these shots.









www.thedarktide.com

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Drugs & Stupidity, Tons of it.

<3

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<Genki> oh, where are you going, with beards all a waggin, no knowin no knowin what bring dear Mr. Baggins, and Balin, and Dwalin, here down in the vally Ah ha!

http://forums.massassi.net/html/Forum5/HTML/010232.html <3 . I have been waiting for updates since then. That is on my favorites. Good job

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Gondor has no pants.
Gondor needs no pants.

IS THAT DF?!!?

(Well someone was going to say it )

Looks incredible!



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WARNING: THIS POST MAY CONTAIN TRACES OF PEANUT!!!
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Amazing.

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"The Oracle told me I would die with my boots on. I've worn tennis shoes ever since." - Axis

Glad you like them Yup it's DF alright, though with many custom textures and a heavily modified palettte. Out of interest, do any of you guys own DF? If so, have any of you ever worked on any DF mods?

Yes, I own DF.
No, I haven't edited it.

Looks NICE though (especially for Dark Forces).

Now, back to the dropping jaw...


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I am Darth Slaw.
The Dark Lord of the Sith,
And part of the Nightfire mod team

[This message has been edited by Darth Slaw (edited January 28, 2004).]

Holy crap man, nice job!

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"Honey, you got real ugly."

...I nearly crapped my pants when I clicked on this thread.

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The future is here, and all bets are off.

.. So it couldn't wait until you saw the pictures? Geez, GBK. (j/k)

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Have a good one,
Freelancer

My editing career (As far as FPS games go) started in DF, lol. Loved editing it. Still got an amazingly large stockpile of DF resources.

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Wolf Moon
Cast Your Spell On Me
Beware
The Woods At Night
The Wolf Has Come

Great job!

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Snail racing: (500 posts per line)
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...why would you bother editing for DF?

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Happy "Diseased" dud: You said I'd be like this guy. Boycotting everything..
Happy "Diseased" dud: ted kazcnisky. That's who it was.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wait, That's the unibomer.
Happy "Diseased" dud: Wrong guy.

Because it's a great game (better than JK), and we're still finding new things to do with it.

Hmm, those look familiar.

[Edit: Er... wait... no they don't.

Heh. Looking good... didja ever find/make/aquire a good railing "floor" texture?]

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The Mega-ZZTer's Gaming Haven!

Bot Pack JO | Let's Roll JK | Bespin JA | Patch Enforcer JK/Mots | Pac-Man JK

[This message has been edited by The_Mega_ZZTer (edited January 29, 2004).]

I would have to disagree.

Those shot are amazing.



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Signatures are overrated.

"You can run but you will only die tired."

I cant believe that's DF. Jeez. It looks like JK.

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Madquack and Firbnic have a signature.
*Remnant Temple beta almost done*
Light And Darkness

Looks pretty good.

/me digs Dark Forces from pile of games

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<landfish> FastGamerr > Satan

Mega: Not yet. I'm not too sure if i will or not. Seperating the rails that lie along the x plain from the z plain, in order to add different floors textures, may result in awful homming.



I mean in terms of the quality and quantity of custom SP missions available. There doesn't seem to be too many great SP JK levels around. I'm glad you like my shots though

Yeah, I personally preferred the plot/gameplay of DF. And there were a lot of awesome SP levels. The quality of several of these were better than almost every SP JK level I've ever seen. (Code Red, Mt. Kurak, Star's End, Assassinate Darth Vader, Tie Defender Base... to name a few...)

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Wolf Moon
Cast Your Spell On Me
Beware
The Woods At Night
The Wolf Has Come

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Member of the Minneassian Council

That's more detailed than many JK levels I've seen. Personally, I think DF and JK are equally great but for different reasons.

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[Insert witty anti-signature here.]

If only Mattias Welander finished his Direct3D version of Dark Forces...

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-There are easier things in life than finding a good woman, like nailing Jello to a tree, for instance

-Tazz

Dark3D? He's still working on it.

If Dark Forces was to have 16-bit textures, that would easily blow JK away. Either way, that looks awesome.

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"The future is not determined by a throw of the dice, but is determined by the conscious decisions of you and me."
I am addicted to ellipses!!! AHHH!!! ...

I thought . . . I thought he went nuts . . and killed his family . . .

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The future is here, and all bets are off.

So no I have to go to Massassi to see all of the DT IV screenies?

Still looking good... For what, the third year running?

I've done editing in both DF and JK, and have released a marginally-decent level for DF.

In comparing DF and JK, there are only two things that are in favor of JK, even if they're somewhat major:

The reduction of distance HOMing (from the ~80m limit in DF to the ~12000m limit in JK), and
The capacity of .cog files.

The adjoin HOMing is actually something that JK could use improvement on, considering that since JK is fully 3D, its limit of 128 portals to DF's 48 is more harmful.

Both games can be "stretched":

Some of my work with JK is comparable in appearance to UT (the first one, of course, not 2k3). However, most of the time I try this, I get severe HOMing, my framerate drops from ~70fps to <1fps, and sometimes it crashes.

Much of the better work for DF (such as DT IV here), is massively beyond what people at Lucasarts envisioned DF being able to do. Since DF uses 3DOs almost identical to those of JK, most of the full-3D effects can be simulated (such as slopes and reflective floors), and players typically don't notice things that it can't simulate (such as continuous tripple adjoins to the same wall, which would be split into multiple surfaces in JK).

When it comes down to it, DF seems to have a much greater capactiy for highly complex levels. Sectors don't have to be convex, and often are doughnut-shaped, or use only one for a collumn-filled hall. INF and VUEs can handle most of the things people expect out of COGs, and perform really cool effects (such as the erruption of Mt. Kurek, the ship in Star's End, and the space battle in Condition Red). Although they may be nice, 16-bit textures have NEVER been neccessary. In fact, I see no reason to use them in my JK level.

Also, because there are less things to distract one in making DF levels, and thus out of only around 300 levels, there are about a whole dozen that are good enough to blow away even the most hardened of modern 3D fans.

Also, as a final strike, DF has Mines, the levvel than cannot be bested!

...Of course, there's also Operation Cakewalk: Kyle Likes Cake!...

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Nes digs around in the trash can.
Nes finds a hamburger!
Nes puts the hamburger in his backpack.

[This message has been edited by nottheking (edited January 30, 2004).]

Nice one NTK Where can I download some of your JK work?
I've only been working on this level for about a year and four months. I hope it'll be out before 3 years.

Omg... DF-21 is invading Massassi!

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The Mega-ZZTer's Gaming Haven!

Bot Pack JO | Let's Roll JK | Bespin JA | Patch Enforcer JK/Mots | Pac-Man JK

I'm hoping it'l be out before 2 years... I'm now about 6 months into working with it, and have about 1400 sectors. I'll post some older screenshots, because the better-looking areas now crash the game... I'll have to fix that.

All your Base are belong to us!
(And I think we have more Death Stars than Massassi...)

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Nes digs around in the trash can.
Nes finds a hamburger!
Nes puts the hamburger in his backpack.

We got Deathstar, We got Deathstar, etc.

MY GOD!!!!!! oh ye u aint kidding about the regonising from bounty hunter!! the bounty hunter Coruscant lvl was perfect and yours looks just like it!! i feel like going play it right now hehe

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Snake

Barry, could I talk you into giving us figures on how much has been done in each of the four levels (sectors, verticies, objects, textures used), along with an estimate of how complete you'd say each is?

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Nes digs around in the trash can.
Nes finds a hamburger!
Nes puts the hamburger in his backpack.

If I counted correctly, I have three, and you have... Thirteen.



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Nes digs around in the trash can.
Nes finds a hamburger!
Nes puts the hamburger in his backpack.

Without a shadow of a doubt - VERY spiffy !!!

I really should drop by here more often - I suppose I will when I finally get close to releasing something

But other than that Barry - fantastic looking visuals, especially the custom textures - nearly said "mats" then for JK, because if I hadn't seen the yellow/orange text in the first screeny, I'd have thought it could have been a JK screenshot. Damn you - build my hopes up and then dash them all

Looks fantastic - keep up the great work

-Jackpot

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"lucky_jackpot is the smily god..." - gothicX

"Life is mostly froth and bubble,
But two things stand in stone,
Kindness in another's trouble,
Courage in your own"
("Ye Wearie Wayfarer" - by Adam Lindsay Gordon)

Dude, that's really cool..

I do have just one suggestion about your trailer (posted in the earlier thread). At the part where it says "Itimate knowledge of Imperial methods," you might want to change it to "Intimate knowledge of Imperial tactics."

Other than that... Dang.

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Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin
http://www.writings-emag.net The next big thing since individually wrapped cheese slices (coming soon).

It shouldn't be too dificult for you to get a (legitimate) copy of DF... LucasArts still sells them at their website (try http://www.lucasarts.com/products/darkforces/splash.htm ). Or, you could pick up a copy from EBay... there are several auctions ending in a few hours, that go for about $5US at the top end...)

Also, with work like this, it might be understandable to confuse some of it with JK. There is obviously extensive use of 3DOs, and Barry figured out how to double the scaling of a wall texture (but not floor/ceiling textures, though).

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Nes digs around in the trash can.
Nes finds a hamburger!
Nes puts the hamburger in his backpack.