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Music Video
2004-03-21, 4:07 AM #1
I started making a music video for one of my songs. The song is at http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/hidingintherhubarbmusic.htm it's for the song 'apple juice'.

Here are some stills...I don't have a good enough host to post a video..sorry.

[http://voteandy.com/images/nate.jpg]

[http://voteandy.com/images/nate2.jpg]

[http://voteandy.com/images/nate3.jpg]

[http://voteandy.com/images/nate4.jpg]

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gree gree.
2004-03-21, 4:17 AM #2
Oh snap boy-e..

I mean what kind of camera do you have? My friend and I need one that looks good and spiffy like that.

(In be fo da move)

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[This message has been edited by SAJN_Master (edited March 21, 2004).]
Think while it's still legal.
2004-03-21, 4:29 AM #3
I just have a pretty low-end panasonic miniDV camera. It gets me pretty good results. For this video I actually desaturated the video a bit to give it more of a washed out look.

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gree gree.
2004-03-21, 4:43 AM #4
Low end? *twitches*

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I’m not going to die, I’m going to see if I was ever alive. - Spike
It's not your right to decide whether they live or die. They deserve a chance! - Vash
BABIES EVERYWHERE!!!

[This message has been edited by SAJN_Master (edited March 21, 2004).]
Think while it's still legal.
2004-03-21, 4:58 AM #5
are you talking about price? I paid a little under 500 for it, and that was back when it was new. Since then they've come out with at least 1 newer version of the same camera.

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gree gree.
2004-03-21, 12:43 PM #6
That doesn't look low end to me...

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All the prism in the world couldn't make hue.
2004-03-22, 2:16 AM #7
It looks good... and how can you be so sure of image quality when the picture is that small.

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2004-03-22, 6:17 PM #8
that sounds awsome
can I have the tabs???
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2004-03-23, 1:22 AM #9
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BoRnOfFiRe:

can I have the tabs???
</font>


I'd say yes, but we haven't taken the time to write the song out in tabs yet...if we ever get a chance I'll post 'em.

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gree gree.
2004-03-24, 5:23 PM #10
Bonus points for the aspect ratio and the focus on the brances in foreground with character in another plane. HARD to do that with a "camcorder."

Song's a little slow and long. Needs a ramp up near the end. Good sound though.

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2004-03-24, 6:13 PM #11
Wow! great work! I would love to see the whole thing. If possible could you send to to me over AIM?

My SN is: IDBNytro

Edit: I should be getting a .com in a few weeks to put my films on. All depending on bandwith, ect I might be able to host your video for you.

[This message has been edited by Nytro (edited March 24, 2004).]
2004-03-25, 5:02 AM #12
Nytro - I was able to upload the video to my website for our school 'presidential election.' The bandwidth can't support all of massassi, but I'll IM you the link.

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gree gree.
2004-03-25, 12:19 PM #13
mkay, as of today the 'election' is over. Although we don't have the bandwidth for me to post the movie here, I can give individuals the link to it. If you're interested IM me at starving4rtist

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gree gree.
2004-03-25, 1:26 PM #14
How big Murc? I can upload for you.

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2004-03-25, 3:03 PM #15
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Ubuu:
How big Murc? I can upload for you.

</font>


I just re-compressed it down to 11 megs. If you're willing to host it that would be great.

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gree gree.
2004-03-26, 3:56 AM #16
The song sounds pretty good accually, I like it. Hey, if you need help in picking out profession streaming software and equipment, I have some film cameras of my own (which dont really work because I dropped it a while back, so I need to get it repaired :S). Just ask and Ill post the list of equipment in this topic.

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2004-03-26, 4:00 AM #17
Hmmmm, I couldnt edit my post, so ill just post what I was going to say in here:

OMGOMGOMGOMG! CAN I HAVE YOUR AUTOGRAPH!??!@ KTHXBYE!?>!

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2004-03-26, 4:06 AM #18
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jenny_Kitty:
Just ask and Ill post the list of equipment in this topic.
</font>


Yeah, if you wouldn't mind I'd be interested to hear what you use.


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gree gree.
2004-03-26, 6:14 AM #19
Note, this Info is from England so convert the money to your zone:

Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
SHOOTING KIT
This is where the hands-on digital filmmaking really starts. To get the kit you need to blag it, rent it or buy it. The basic kit you need will be:

•DV camera and tapes
If you can't get a DVcam try Hi-8. There's been an explosion of DVcams in time for Christmas. A consumer level gizmo of around £1500 will get you a camera which will record to a quality that until recently could only have been achieved through professional cameras costing much more. The Sony VX1000, which isn't as dinky as the handycam versions, but is packed with features can be got for around £2-2500. This has become an early standard to buy, because it's got all the necessary manual overrides as well as being stupidly easy to use. It also, importantly films not only at the usual screen ratio for TV, but also for widescreen, which is de riguer if you want to be flash (which of course you should do, you are after all an early adopter of this fantastic new technology).
•Tripod
Although not strictly necessary, a tripod will bring discipline into your camerawork and give you a much more professional look and quality when you come to shooting. A good quality tripod from between £50-100 will do the trick nicely. Try to look for one with an adjustable head, or a cheaper tripod designed for moving image work. This way you'll get smoother pans and tilts. Practically, if you try to shoot a long film with all handheld camerawork, the cameraman is likely to end up in hospital with a bad back, and the audience may all start to feel motion sickness.

•Sound recorder
It's best not to rely on your camera's internal microphone to pick up dialogue. These are general mics which pick up general sound just as much as the dialogue you want, so passing sirens are likely to drown out that intimate little conversation in that crucial heart-to-heart scene. Get a Mini-diskman with a good shotgun microphone or a small lapel microphones which you can hide to get nearer to the actors speaking, for clearer sound. You can match up the sound with the images later in your desktop PC.

•Lighting equipment
Video generally requires less light than film, but it's still necessary to be careful with lighting so actor's faces are lit properly and not totally obliterated by shadow. A portable lighting rig will be useful, depending on your ambition, or if you are going minimalist use photoflood lightbulbs for interiors will be fine. This is what Robert Rodriguez used for El Mariachi, the famous low budget film, made initially for a reputed $7000 and then picked up by Colombia pictures for worldwide distribution.
</font>


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<GothiX> Jenny = goddess
* GothiX <3 Jenny
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Projects:
-The Matrix Unplugged: http://ut2k3net.com/cazor

Companies:
-Hi-Fi Entertainment: http://www.hifi-entertainment.com
-Capcom USA: www.capcom.com
2004-03-26, 1:20 PM #20
BTW, is that you singing?

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2004-03-26, 2:08 PM #21
Well, its his song, so yeah. Most Lyricists dont let other people sing their own songs unless they are in the group itself.

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<GothiX> Jenny = goddess
* GothiX <3 Jenny
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Projects:
-The Matrix Unplugged: http://ut2k3net.com/cazor

Companies:
-Hi-Fi Entertainment: http://www.hifi-entertainment.com
-Capcom USA: www.capcom.com
2004-03-27, 8:35 AM #22
Hey, if you want, I can host the music video for you. If you have msn messenger, you can catch me at jenny_kitty18@hotmail.com and ill host it at www.hifi-entertainment.com

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<GothiX> Jenny = goddess
* GothiX <3 Jenny
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Projects:
-The Matrix Unplugged: http://ut2k3net.com/cazor

Companies:
-Hi-Fi Entertainment: http://www.hifi-entertainment.com
-Capcom USA: www.capcom.com
2004-03-27, 2:55 PM #23
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jenny_Kitty:
Well, its his song, so yeah. Most Lyricists dont let other people sing their own songs unless they are in the group itself.</font>


Unless you look at popstars... who usually are to stupid to even write.

Interesting, I'd like to see the full clip.


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2004-03-27, 6:06 PM #24
Thanks for all the interest and replies. I just finished editing it tonight, so I'll prolly make a web-sized version sometime tomorrow. For now, a few more pics:

[http://voteandy.com/images/a1.jpg]

[http://voteandy.com/images/a2.jpg]

[http://voteandy.com/images/a3.jpg]

[http://voteandy.com/images/a4.jpg]

[http://voteandy.com/images/a5.jpg]

[http://voteandy.com/images/a6.jpg]

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gree gree.

[This message has been edited by Murc XIII (edited March 27, 2004).]
2004-03-28, 7:15 AM #25
Murc: Just email it to ubuu@massassi.net

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In Tribute to Adam Sliger. Rest in Peace

10/7/85 - 12/9/03
In Tribute to Adam Sliger. Rest in Peace

10/7/85 - 12/9/03
2004-03-28, 9:22 AM #26
Ubuu, check your email.

Until he gets it up (assuming he can still host it for me) here's a link to it. The bandwidth won't hold out for too long, so if you watch it, please tell me what you think.

I'm pretty happy with how it turned out. I would have liked to change some things and do a bit more with it, but it's due tomorrow (it was for school).

The link:
http://voteandy.com/web4.mov


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gree gree.
2004-03-28, 11:20 AM #27
Email it to webmaster@sorrowind.net

I can make a good quality low-size web version of it, and host it for ya. Since, not to be mean, but the quality to filesize ratio on that web4 version is pitiful. [http://forums.massassi.net/html/redface.gif]

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2004-03-28, 11:29 AM #28
I have all the stuff here to compress it, but I'm not very well versed at codecs. That one's with Sorensen3, should I be using a different codec?

Thing I did for filesize:
-resolution (obviously)
-compress sound
-reduce frame rate

Am I missing something?

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gree gree.
2004-03-28, 12:47 PM #29
I loved the music video! The only thing I can say as a Con is the shaking :S Use a tripod or something, but other then that, its great [http://forums.massassi.net/html/biggrin.gif]

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<GothiX> Jenny = goddess
* GothiX <3 Jenny
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Projects:
-The Matrix Unplugged: http://ut2k3net.com/cazor

Companies:
-Hi-Fi Entertainment: http://www.hifi-entertainment.com
-Capcom USA: www.capcom.com
2004-03-28, 2:55 PM #30
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Murc XIII:
I have all the stuff here to compress it, but I'm not very well versed at codecs. That one's with Sorensen3, should I be using a different codec?

Thing I did for filesize:
-resolution (obviously)
-compress sound
-reduce frame rate

Am I missing something?

</font>


Resolution: Unless its massive, you should keep it at 320x240 or even 640x480. I have a widescreen 640x368 video that is only 26MB, and it's four and a half minutes long.

Compress Audio: Use an MP3 codec. Dunno what you used.

Reduce framerate: Again, unless its superhigh, don't do this. It makes it look bad. If it is above 30fps, you should, but I would only reduce it to 24fps, if it isn't at that anyway.

Your biggest problem is you are using .mov. .MOV is not that great of a video filetype. You should use .avi and make it divx. Overall, divx3 alpha probably compresses the best, and is compatible with nearly anything.

If you want to read up on everything codec read up at this awesome guide. http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/avtech/

Some of it is based around anime music videos, but there is a TON of useful information in general about videos and music videos in general.

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I am addicted to ellipses!!! AHHH!!! ...
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2004-03-28, 5:23 PM #31
Mkay...

New version, smaller filesize, bigger and better video.

http://voteandy.com/web4.mov

Now download it and give me some feedback! Please?

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gree gree.
2004-03-29, 10:29 AM #32
Much better. Still the dispicable .mov format, but its better than the previous one.

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"The future is not determined by a throw of the dice, but is determined by the conscious decisions of you and me."
I am addicted to ellipses!!! AHHH!!! ...
Make Sorrowind Worthwhile... join it! http://sorrowind.net
2004-03-29, 4:58 PM #33
I loved the old music video, and loved the new one even more! AWSOME!!!!

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<GothiX> Jenny = goddess
* GothiX <3 Jenny
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Projects:
-The Matrix Unplugged: http://ut2k3net.com/cazor

Companies:
-Hi-Fi Entertainment: http://www.hifi-entertainment.com
-Capcom USA: www.capcom.com
2004-03-29, 5:09 PM #34
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jenny_Kitty:
I loved the old music video, and loved the new one even more! AWSOME!!!!

</font>


Thanks! I hope my teacher feels the same way...

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gree gree.
2004-03-29, 6:31 PM #35
Great video, it really fits the mood the song gives.

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