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(what is this... the fourth time ive done this? Yeah, its not lit yet, and im using a buttload of ydnar textures) oh and it's the valley of the jedi tower))

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[This message has been edited by Cazor (edited April 02, 2004).]

Yes!

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hehehehe good luck

Cool!

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Nice, but most of those were made by ydnar and possibly edited by rgoer

<3

I love that level. Ahhh memories...

yeah i just noticed that. it says rgoer on the directory but ydnar on some of the textures, so i got kinda confused.

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meh... I dont like it yet.

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Lat rocks my box with sox

It needs work... also, I think the original tower was slightly cone-shaped... if you could do that here, give the exterior walls a slight slant, it would look a lot better.

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It looks great so far, but definately still needs work.

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Ive built this design so many times, and tried to slant it every time, but it didn't work. every time i try it either gives sparklies, misalighned brushes, or both. this is the most simple design yet(and the one with the least errors(none that i have seen so far(yay))), and it still wont let me do that. I really wanted to have it slanted, but it just wont work.


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There are two asses in Massassi... and I'm one of them.
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Addes light sources in the cargo areas.


And for inside the tower.


And for the platform.(sine also suggested that i rotate the metal texture near the mechanical things hanging off the walls, and scaled up the outer grey texture)

(Note: of course these lights arent going to light the whole map, most are for places that dont get natural light from the skybox. yeah, there are four of those those small square lights inside each of the top areas near the doors. If you dont understand, just wait until i actually do the lightmap)

and yeah, i dont know what happened but i batch converted the 3 files and they saved over themselves and the resize wasnt as smoothe as it should have been. sorry for the quality.

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Interesting. I love it when people recreate classic maps for other games... but theres one thing that always bugged me about the original map... there was that HUGE ship just floating there, but it made no sound. It's as silent as the UFOs on those Sci-Fi channel abduction documentaries... heck, I've heard louder monks than that ship.

Please, I beg of you, make some noise!

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[This message has been edited by halucid (edited April 02, 2004).]

Good this far. Unfortunately I am mr. poopypants and say that it needs the canyon around it, like in the original level. Good work, however.

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Yeah, im working on that. Im thinking about how i can do it without it looking like crap. Prolly gonna end up making a portalsky... if i can figure out how to do that.

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Looks good, though I think it would be nice you made a classic version of the map and a more detailed version (I know it's supposed to replicate the old one but I think the map would look better with more detail).

It's gradually going to get more detailed, but if you wanna get technical, the old one had 8 sides, and this has 32, so about 3/4 of the map is 4 times as detailed, plus the many map models, maybe bumps it up to 5. But yeah, it will get more detailed over time. I guess if you want a map that is the same detail as the old one, you could download my first map of this: http://massassi.net/levels/files/2630.shtml although extended use may result in limb loss.

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Nice! All that's missing now is a very detailed Maw...

if i do make a SP version, ill probably use this: http://jk2files.com/file.info?ID=3961

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I highly suggest that you devote some thought and effort into making the walls slanted. It will improve the quality of the map tremedously... Having the walls straight like that... just doesnt work asthetically, imo.

Also, are you going to add more detail to the catwalks? Like guardrails, and some support beams underneath?

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If i could make them slanted, then i cant have the models on the walls, which i really like. Possibly if i can slant the walls that are under the two docking rooms, but that would be all i can do. I have put a lot of effort into it. like i said, ive made the design sevral times and this is the first one that doesnt give errors, and i kinda want to keep it that way. Possibly if i try something with striaght, slanted patch meshes under the docking rooms (big square holes in the sides if you dont follow me) it could give a more JK-ish look. Oh, and yeah, some supports will be added, since parts of the orignal level defied the laws of even star wars physics in Jk, but probably not gaurd rails. I think that would get too crowded, and would lose the Jk-ness of it.


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[This message has been edited by Cazor (edited April 03, 2004).]

"If i could make them slanted, then i cant have the models on the walls"

Would I be correct in assuming you don't know you can rotate models around all 3 axis using the key angles (note that 's' at the end) and 3 values "yaw pitch roll"?

...you... can? sweet(although i wish they would have put that in the misc_model entity info :\). well that would take care of the model problem, but the problem with the docking areas still is the main reason why i cant do it, but thanks for telling me about that.

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There are two asses in Massassi... and I'm one of them.
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Woah, that's not the same ship that was there in JK, right? I don't remember... that was so long ago
But I don't remember it looking like that...

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you also can use -patchmeta to get rid of sparklies... JA's -patchmeta is much better than JO's.

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Except that there is no difference. And patchmeta sucks on a map compile - you'd be better off compiling it into an ASE.

Looks pretty good. I hate the ship though.

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-thank you man, raly appriciate it