And here you have bullet holes. But not just any bullet holes; bullet holes that are actually "on the walls"! I don't know for sure, but this is likely the first time it's been done this way (without using sprites). And 3do colliding is removed, so no more floating bullet holes from jk making bad collision calculations and hitting droids :).

And you'll also get to look at the current P99 model (textures are still a work in progress). Just for fun, I gave it Bond's tux arms and some nice hands, since 007 != Kyle

And we have a bullet counter (for the amount of the clip remaining) and we are improving the HUD.

More bulletholyness!


Now, let's whip out the M4A1 and zoom in on some unsuspecting grans down this corridor. What's this? Ohh, optional (pixelated :p) blood feature.

Now let's unload some action on that other gran and watch him go "ouch!"

Ahh, I love the smell of roasted reeyees in the morning :D.


Also, if you are interested in lending a hand to the mod, talk to a_person. We particularly need mappers. Thx.

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for(i = 0; i < 00; i = i + 1) Print("massassi is good");
PrintInt(i); //print the integer value of infinity

Excellent job on the bullet holes. I worked on something like that a while back

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I felt like destroying something beautiful.

I have no frickin idea how most of that is done.

Your models are fast improving.
Can you keyframe??

if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}

Pretty holes, now to make sure that you can rip those Grans to shreds. XD

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"Do... or do not... there is no try"-Yoda

Is that my P99?

JediKirby

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<]-[ellequin> Nothing is quite as satisfying as placing a .177 lead pellet in between the eyes of a cat.
<]-[ellequin> I think I will leave it's corpse there, to warn all the other cats to keep out of my hibiscus patch

Live on, Adam.

Sweet...

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Have you ever been philosophical? It's pretty fun.
Well don't just sit there, REPLY!!!

Thats my bullethole system. Make sure you credit me.

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Major projects working on:
SATNRT
JK Pistol Mod
Aliens TC

[This message has been edited by Descent_pilot (edited June 06, 2004).]

heh, thanks.

Yes, I can keyframe, it just takes a while with close to 40 meshes (well, I only have to set up about half for most animations) to get the basic pose for the key; then it gets easier.


Yup.

Ripping grans to shreds is my specialty I do it every day. Anyone else know that level by heart? I'm sure I'm not alone...

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for(i = 0; i < 00; i = i + 1) Print("massassi is good");
PrintInt(i); //print the integer value of infinity

Sorry, you're mistaken; I did this (referring to the bulletholes) all on my own.
(actually, I borrowed SM's grapple template from the Datamaster -- that's the only thing that's not mine, aside from the bullethole texture I photoraped from an image on page 3# of a google image search for "bullet holes")

I'll post the cog and template if you don't believe me.

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for(i = 0; i < 00; i = i + 1) Print("massassi is good");
PrintInt(i); //print the integer value of infinity

[This message has been edited by Darth Slaw (edited June 06, 2004).]

Yea I'd like to see. Sorry, but with the messages for the cog, seems an awful like the one I did.

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Major projects working on:
SATNRT
JK Pistol Mod
Aliens TC

This TC smells of "illegal" Other peoples cogs, gun models, images....

Also the hud needs a lot of work.

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OSC Empire | A.H.N.U.L.D.
[Jim7 PING reply]: 666secs

Bullethole image source:
http://www.theprankstore.com/prank/bullet.html

I used Bubba's Bullet Holes.

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for(i = 0; i < 00; i = i + 1) Print("massassi is good");
PrintInt(i); //print the integer value of infinity (if we ever get there)

[This message has been edited by Darth Slaw (edited June 06, 2004).]

Oh NO! Thats MINE! I did it myself in MS word! (Not knowing code from left elbow*)

Thank you. Sorry That is not my system. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

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Major projects working on:
SATNRT
JK Pistol Mod
Aliens TC

Wannabe
just kidding...

Btw Sajn, jEDIkIRBY made the P99 model specifically for Nightfire (to my understanding; even if not, he's still a modeller for the mod, and I was told he was donating it to the mod). The hands, as you know, are mine (yeah, I tried to pull a ruthven ), complete with modified LEC hand textures to make texturing in ForceRemap easier.

Here's the credits I can remember at this moment for the "illegal" stuff (these are for people not on the editing team -- wow, quite a few):
-reloading code (heavily modified, and refined many times), template base for bullets and their smoke explosions, and current P99 firing sound -- Ben Allen's James Bond mod
-M4A1 current firing sound -- Chad's Anti-Terrorism TC
-bullethole texture -- photoraped from an image at www.theprankstore.com
-Seifer POV cog -- who else but *_seifer_*, and the original resources for it (the cog and template) were provided by clan ruthervain
-Rocket Fire -- the use of the particles is now similar to Zagibu's PWP2 and 3 mods; DogSRoOL, Hell Raiser, EH_AceCSF, jEDIkIRBY, and lucky_jackpot helped me on the Editing Forum with the original particles and also with the idea of having a flame texture on the rocket itself
-Sentinel Guided Rocket -- based on zoom concept by Heideki
-Clip counter -- this idea borrowed from Heideki's Sniper Arena mod
-Idle POV animations inspired by clan ruthervain's Stargate teaser and SavageX's SS3 mod
-Bullethole template base -- SaberMaster

To put it simply, I have not much defense for the texture "theft", 'cause I can't texture worth beans, at least not detailed crap.

You happy now? (you better be because this took me a while to write)
btw, no aggression intended.

[edit]Don't worry about it Decent_pilot Happens all the time, and sometimes for the strangest things (i.e. "big booms" sounds like something else when you're across the classroom...)

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for(i = 0; i < 00; i = i + 1) Print("massassi is good");
PrintInt(i); //print the integer value of infinity (if we ever get there)

[This message has been edited by Darth Slaw (edited June 06, 2004).]

Hey nice work slaw. That hand looks really great. I like the bullet hole idea.

And yes Kirby modeled the p99 for nightfire.

[edit]email it to me [/edit]

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~Nightfire Mod~

[This message has been edited by a_person (edited June 06, 2004).]

Very sweet work Slaw - I especially like the blood and bullet holes work

...and as an apologetic sidenote, I've been away from editing this mod for FAR too long - if you guys (the mod team) are still interested in my help, then let me know what there is still left that I can contribute towards and I'll do my best to make it happen

-Jackpot

PS: Personally, I like the HUD

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"lucky_jackpot is the smily god..." - gothicX

"Life is mostly froth and bubble, but two things stand in stone,
Kindness in another's trouble, courage in your own"
("Ye Wearie Wayfarer" - by Adam Lindsay Gordon)

And he's finally off the starting grid --> Zooooom -@%

You can email me the grapple hook. Also ill give you another cog when you email me.

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~Nightfire Mod~

Nice.



Aye. Every nook. Every cranny. I can play through it with my monitor turned off. ;(

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Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow, and did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind.
:wq

Pros:
-Awesome bullet holes (this could really be expanded for things like rocket blasts, and blood stains)
-blood
-The gun model and hand

Cons:
-blood (I'm sure with the bullet hole cog you can make blood splats stick to walls -- It's cool, but needs some work)
-The texturing on the gun model needs a bit of work (hence the WIP)
-The HUD. It's not awful, but looks like an MSPaint job.


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-There are easier things in life than finding a good woman, like nailing Jello to a tree, for instance

-Tazz

[This message has been edited by Tazz (edited June 07, 2004).]

I'm personally loving the HUD. It's supposed to look something like the Nightfire one, and it reminds me a whole lot.

Oh, and yeah. I'm modeling for Nightfire, and I modeled that specifically for Nightfire.

JediKirby

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-Proud Leader of the Minnessassian Council
<]-[ellequin> Nothing is quite as satisfying as placing a .177 lead pellet in between the eyes of a cat.
<]-[ellequin> I think I will leave it's corpse there, to warn all the other cats to keep out of my hibiscus patch

Live on, Adam.

Why the hell do you people still mod for an old, inflexible and outdated game engine?

Move on, christ.

Personally I think the hud looks like crap. The thing on the right is good, but the thing on the left is something I can make in paint in less than a minute. It also COMPLETELY doesn't fit with the rest of the hud. The Crosshair is way to thick. make it one pixel thick everywhere (maybe 2 or 3) at it'll look fine.

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Author of: A Pirate's Tale (Mots SP)
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<phantom> You're always going to be aloser if you attempt to aspire to massassi standards.
<phantom> They're a bunch of socially inadequate <beep> whores who have little or no lives.

[This message has been edited by ZOOIkes (edited June 07, 2004).]

I hope you get banned, you've been nothing but a huge jerk ever since you starte posting. Leave now.

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OSC Empire | A.H.N.U.L.D.
[Jim7 PING reply]: 666secs

Say that to his mod again, I'll smack you.
Say that to me and my mod, I'll castrate you.

if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}

OK - we all know what to do with infidels who sell their soul to Massassi, knowing full well that they are joining a Star Wars web-site that encourages editing of "an old, inflexible and outdated game engine?"

The general equation follows as such (can vary from individual to individual):
Shwuck + Slow + painful + death = "your lack of purpose being here".

I don't suppose it crossed your mind, Shwuck, that we edit for several reasons:

a) Because we can. Enough said.
b) Because we want to. Also self explanatory.
c) Because we enjoy each other's company. That's what being part of an online community is all about .

Failing that, if you don't have anything constructive to say, the general concensus is "keep your thoughts to yourself". "Criticism" is useful, whether it be positive or negative, as a form of feedback for the editors; usually on how they can tweak and improve various aspects of their mod. Pointless comments like yours serve no purpose for the community, nor the editors who are posting here with aspirations of improving a game that we all love to death. Why else do you think we're here? It certainly isn't to play marbles!

-Jackpot

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"lucky_jackpot is the smily god..." - gothicX

"Life is mostly froth and bubble, but two things stand in stone,
Kindness in another's trouble, courage in your own"
("Ye Wearie Wayfarer" - by Adam Lindsay Gordon)

And he's finally off the starting grid --> Zooooom -@%

Shwuck, why did you join a forum dedicated to modding an "old, inflexible and outdated game engine" if you're just going to insult everyone that does just that? Leave if you don't like it here. We'll be just fine without you.

Anyways, about the mod, I love it so far. My only gripes are these:

-Why did you use a bullethole that's from a sticker company? On google, I'm sure you can find better-looking bullethole textures.
-The blood is also kinda cheesy-looking, it looks like spray-paint.
-I agree with Tazz on the HUD. It looks MSPainty.

Other than that, great job!

[EDIT: Figures I post too late to agree with rutherven in a witty manner and make one really terrible spelling mistake.]

[This message has been edited by Zell (edited June 07, 2004).]

Pfft, Id take cog over ICARUS *any* day. Also, you suck.

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Dear lady, can you hear the wind blow, and did you know
Your stairway lies on the whispering wind.
:wq

Jo/JA editing is too complicated for my mind.

I thought I could deal with at least modelling but I was wrong... I can only reskin stuff.

I like editing for JK better though anyway, even if the skin list system sucks eggs and there's no bot system compatible with more than 1 person in MP.

Btw, ZOOkies, that's the approximate thickness of the crosshair in the game; It can probably live with one less pixel though -- I'll work on that.

Yeah, ruthervain's working on a mod that'll blow most, if not all, JO/JA mods away (with the possible exceptions of the obvious DF TC and such, of course). If you don't want to cross someone, it's definitely him.

Funny how I saw this argument on the RBots froum once... "why are you making a bot system for an old game?" "who the hell lives in the dark ages and still plays JK anyway?"

Oh and btw, JO and JA would NEVER have been without JK and especially DF. And neither would Massassi for that matter.

Zell, it's harder to tell that the blood is all cubes when it's moving fast and only on the screen for a ~ 0.3 second time. It might still look better with slightly smaller particles though. If you were referring to the 3dos on the ground for the leftover drips, that can probably be improved. That's one reason why we showcase stuff

The HUD looks MSPainty because... it kinda is. Like I said, we're still working on it. It'll get better, I promise.

Oh yeah, in my opinion...
COG > *
(That's probably a generalization, I've only taken 2 other languages -- C++, Java -- and Cog > both)

That's about it for this post. You insult JK again I'll say it... oh the hell with it, I'll say it now.
JA ? JK > JO (Don't have JA so I can't make a valid judgement)
How do you like them apples?

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for(i = 0; i < 00; i = i + 1) Print("massassi is good");
PrintInt(i); //print the integer value of infinity (if we ever get there)

[This message has been edited by Darth Slaw (edited June 07, 2004).]

Because it's damn impressive to see what a nearly 10 year old, inflexible game can be forced to pump out given enough coaxing.

That, and what everyone else has said.

For me at least, Jedi Knight will ALWAYS be better than Jedi Outcast or Jedi Academy.

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Frogblast the Vent Core!

--End of Line--

Because it's fun to do. That's like saying, "Why do you people listen to music from an album that was made 7 years ago?" The reason, we like it and we want to.

Anyway, looks pretty good the health hud could use a little more, like a border above the black like the ammo one. Other than that, nice.

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*Takes out his blaster and fires shots at the wall, the blastmarks leave the words "S-TROOPER WUZ 'ERE!!!"

Does this look better?
(Take note that the image is doubled the actual size.)



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for(i = 0; i < 00; i = i + 1) Print("massassi is good");
PrintInt(i); //print the integer value of infinity (if we ever get there)

Change that icky brown color to a slick silverish color

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Member of the Minnessassian Council

I think it looks great

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~Nightfire Mod~

Agreed.

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Map-Review | My Portfolio | The Matrix: Unplugged

I say change both the blue and icky brown to a nice, slick silver color.

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He who passeth in shall passeth out.

Can you change the HUD on the other side (will we be seeing that soon?)

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Snail racing: (500 posts per line)

--------@%

The Massassi JO/JA Single Player contest info

Beautiful. There's something so poetic about blood splattering gran guts...

I too have beef with the HUD.

-The Health/Armor HUD should ressemble the Ammo HUD, or at least not clash with it.

-I don't think the labels are needed at all. Most of us old schoolers know that RED means Health and GREEN means Armor (Sheilds, same thing) The HUD would look so much cleaner w/o labels.

Keep up the bloody brilliant werk!

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"halucid is not really intelligent but is simply a better simulator of human conversation." Googlism

...how easy life would be... if only it came with a consistancy checker.
Fabricator of Neurotic for MLP4

I think the right HUD is cool, but the left needs a bit of work. Great P99 model and bullet hits. Now, my only gripe is that it looks WAY too bloody to be 007 style. But I will say that you made nice use of this new decal system to have blood splats on the ground. Also, can we actually see the M4A1? All you showed was a scoped view.

Nice job, guys.

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[Insert witty anti-signature here.]

Why the hell do you still post on forums for an old, inflexible and outdated game? Move on, Christ, and stop bothering us about what we like to mod.



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