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2004-09-09, 1:06 PM #1
[http://www.geocities.com/sparky_t13/JK2lvl.jpg]



Lemme know what you think, I also got more Screenshots if you ask ill post em

If you wana try the lvl ill send it to and email adderss if you give me one
2004-09-09, 1:13 PM #2
very very busy.

the room is fairly bland too, change the wall and floor textures.

maybe give some order to all the walkways and bouncepads too, it just looks a little messy as-is.
2004-09-09, 1:14 PM #3
This level makes baby jesus cry.

#1. Get rid of all the damn 3dos.
#2. Make a real level via architexture, or at least CUSTOM 3dos.
#3. Do some lighting.
#4. Obtain new textures, or at least vary it up a lot more than it is.
#5. For God's sake, don't release the level. Not in this state at least.
2004-09-09, 1:16 PM #4
Ouch that hurts...... i guess thats what the truth does


anyhow im a noob desinger and its my first lvl
2004-09-09, 1:27 PM #5
lose the 3dos and floor and wall colors and tell me what u think of sectors
2004-09-09, 1:29 PM #6
For your first level is it a good start but it need new mats..

maybe you find some good at [url]www.massassi.net[/url]
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2004-09-09, 1:45 PM #7
Quote:
Originally posted by Jedi_Jax98
lose the 3dos and floor and wall colors and tell me what u think of sectors



:confused: sectors?


P.s.: Use the Massassi Editors Corner
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2004-09-09, 2:26 PM #8
I think it looks uber fun.
Think while it's still legal.
2004-09-09, 10:22 PM #9
Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master
I think it looks uber fun.
2004-09-10, 12:05 AM #10
I've seen too many levels like this. This level should NOT be released. Have this level be one of your practice levels. You mastered inserting things. Good job, now go on and practice with the other things, like ramps, corridors, cleaving, and so on. ;)

Here are some links to articles that you really should read. It helps.

http://massassi.net/tutorials.php (Tutorials on how to make great architecture/textures/doors/elevators...etcetera.

http://massassi.net/basics (Basic explanations of tools in JED)

http://www.jediknight.net/darkfall (This has articles on what makes a level good)

P.S. Your first level looks much better than my first level. Mine consisted of more than 50 big sectors all adjoined together with nothing in each room. I thought it was the best level ever. Haha.
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2004-09-10, 12:32 AM #11
This reminds me of my "dark tempest 5" april fool's joke where I took a screenshot of a huge box texured with dflt.mat and filled with catwalks and landing pads.
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2004-09-10, 2:16 AM #12
It needs more sectors connected to it. Also maybe some more system, it looks confucing as it is. But I think it would be fun to play.
2004-09-10, 3:33 AM #13
Everyone starts like this. The gameplay looks fine. I don't have a problem with the default JK textures.

The level looks fun but be sure to heed the constructive criticism and advice from the other posters: you really need to learn how to make architecture using sectors as opposed to solely 3dos. Check out the beams tutorial in the tutorial section, that will get you started.

Don't take these mean people seriously - they're just jaded because we've been seeing levels like this since 1998 and most authors release one and don't take the time to really learn the editor and progress. But don't worry, if you show effort and continue visiting and posting, you will get all the help and eventually all the praise you will ever want.
2004-09-10, 7:33 AM #14
thanks for all the input yall it will help me in my desings im sure:)

ill check out any links you peeps give me. ill do anything to improve



by the way. at least its not another Oasis Clone. OMG there is so many of them

here is 2 more pics to show the saber platform and the outside(some of it)
[http://www.geocities.com/sparky_t13/001.jpg]
[http://www.geocities.com/sparky_t13/003.jpg]
2004-09-10, 7:58 AM #15
I would also like to point out that there ARE other sectors connecting to the main dome.

also I knew i would need better textures but didnt know where to find them or how to make them. i did however make a saber pack using paint and Mat Master

as for sector cleaving, a dome is the best i knew how to make (other than boxes)

if you would like to play this level click the link below(its a zip file)
Megadome.zip
2004-09-10, 8:50 AM #16
I like the outer-area.........
2004-09-10, 12:12 PM #17
By the way, it looks like you are playing JK in software mode. To make it look a lot better, turn on 3d accelleration! http://www.massassi.net/guide/ This should help you find the option to turn it on.
2004-09-10, 1:19 PM #18
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Originally posted by Brian
By the way, it looks like you are playing JK in software mode. To make it look a lot better, turn on 3d accelleration! http://www.massassi.net/guide/ This should help you find the option to turn it on.

You're definitely right! As Jar-Jar would say, Icky poo! (but some Massassian shot Jar-Jar a long time ago, didn't they?)

As for the level, it's good to see that you've learned to use 3DOs for arcitecture very well; it's a skill you shouldn't forget. However, you should try to learn to use sector-based arcitecure primarily. Although I can't blame you for using the default textures (it's hard to make surfaces look good without inserting a lot of custom .MATs). However, just as great textures can make mediocre acitecure look good, great arcitecture, with strategic use and selection of mediocre textures (such as the defaul LEC provided ones), can still look great. Try using a LOT of sectors to add details one normalyl wouldn't think of: perhaps the dome should have supporting steel girders, or collumns or pipes running down a hallway (these are just ideas for general level building). Also, try to avoid prism-shaped (read: squarish) rooms and areas whenever possible, by adding extra things. With a good makeover, that could just turn out into another nice addition to Massassi's JK MP maps.

And long after your first level is released (6-10 months), I gauruntee that it will seem very newb-ish to you. Don't worry; it happens to all of us.
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2004-09-10, 2:49 PM #19
Actually, the level may not have any lighting or textures, but the gameplay seems to be solid. Good job.

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2004-09-10, 3:09 PM #20
I tested the level out, and I was expecting to play something crappy, but as it turns out, I loved it! I'm not so easily amused either. =) Nice flow. Very nice. I like how you used those 3do's in a creative way. Here are some suggestions:

- There are some places that are cramped. Try to avoid this.

- Focus the work on the outside area...like do something interesting with the walls and/or the floor (Good start on it so far)

- I suggest you have respawn locations that aren't just in the middle room (less of a chance that someone will kill you when you don't have a good weapon utilized)

This is probably the BEST first level I've ever seen. Keep up the good work Jax.
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2004-09-10, 4:36 PM #21
my mian problem about making this level is, lets put it this way........the computer i use reminds me of every food that i hate in life and makes me want to throw it in the trash...

is the best comp around i can use..... hopefuly ill soon have a better one, thats the reason i dont run 3D accel

after all im not made of money..... im only 17 and still live at home sharing a room we 2 brothers SOMONE HELP ME

thx for the comment on best first level you have seen, that alone makes me wana continue making JK levels

I'd also like to ask where did all the zone players go?Somewhere else?or did they all stop playing?
2004-09-10, 5:20 PM #22
Zone players just left, they recognized the end of JK.
It's really a shame.......

On a good day, you'll see 40 people.
2004-09-10, 5:46 PM #23
Hmm, this is related to ArdenLyn's post...How come massassi players don't come to the zone to play JK? Do you guys even play JK or do you just test levels?...
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2004-09-10, 6:10 PM #24
Because the zone sucks. People use IP adresses now. I hosted a huge All day JK marathon a few months ago. We had a huge turn out. God was I wiped after playing JK for 24 hours.
Think while it's still legal.
2004-09-10, 6:12 PM #25
We usually play by meeting up in the chat. I've got most frequent JKers on my buddy list, and if I want to play a game, I can usually get a good 4-6 people in a game, 8 if I ask everyone.

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2004-09-10, 6:47 PM #26
Quote:
Originally posted by Jedi_Jax98
by the way. at least its not another Oasis Clone. OMG there is so many of them


I wouldn't say that's something to brag about. :p
2004-09-12, 3:09 PM #27
not a brag... just a relief note .... i mean who would want to see more of em?
2004-09-12, 3:17 PM #28
Quote:
Originally posted by Jedi_Jax98
not a brag... just a relief note .... i mean who would want to see more of em?



me!!!!

I like the secrets in your level...
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2004-09-12, 3:20 PM #29
you do like em?.... or is that sarcasam
2004-09-12, 3:23 PM #30
I should better say I like secrets in your levels...
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2004-09-12, 3:25 PM #31
:confused: thats almost the same thing u said before almost
2004-09-12, 3:26 PM #32
Ok, I mean you should include more an more hidden secrets....
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2004-09-12, 3:30 PM #33
Ah, yes good idea... since i only got one real secret
2004-09-12, 5:28 PM #34
Quote:
Originally posted by SAJN_Master
Because the zone sucks. People use IP adresses now. I hosted a huge All day JK marathon a few months ago. We had a huge turn out. God was I wiped after playing JK for 24 hours.


You were wiped because I whiped the floor with you, and my Fatal Resistance Skillz! BUAHAHAHA. :mad:


... I even disturbed myself as I said that... :eek:
2004-09-18, 5:52 PM #35
Playing on the zone and playing in the JK server doesn't make a difference, does it? Well, either way, I'm interested in gaming with you guys, so where do you meet up to chat?...Say, speaking of chats, where's that massassi chat room?

[edit]

:p Haha, nevermind. That chat room is still here. Is that the one you guys were talking about?
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2004-09-20, 7:57 AM #36
This post is in relation to my above post. Yes, I found the massassi chat room, and I'm assuming that's the meeting place for all of you guys. It doesn't work! ... Do I need to download mIRC for this?
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2004-10-08, 3:21 PM #37
Ok, i have done some remodling on my level and im posting the link to download itwww.geocities.com/sparky_t13/NewDome.zip


i don't have screen shots ready yet but I'll have those in my next post

anyone who plays it gimme your thoughts
2004-10-08, 4:25 PM #38
Don't use geocities. Attach the .zip to the next post.
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2004-10-08, 7:52 PM #39
Hey Jax, do you have MSN Messenger? That would be cool if you did, because I want to help beta test your levels and such. ;)
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