Here is my new model of the briar pistol for my upcoming mod The Jedi Order (Based off SBX 3.1, it includes new models, a few more moves, and some wicked rpg features)



Tell me what you think. If you want me to upgrade some stuff let me know

Very nice, if you're trying to emulate the JO Bryar. Personally, I'd rather not be reminded of that game though. The model is still good, but the textures might need some work. Also, jEDIkIRBY has already made a new Bryar model recently, so if you're making it soley for the sake of a better Bryar, just ask him for his model. If you're just making it for fun or for learning, in that case, good job, enjoy, and by all means continue.

I personally think that looks excellent. It's like a mix between the JK and JO version, and I like it a lot.

Please make a better bowcaster/repeater/rail det

I also have a few new models, like my Storm Trooper rifle, and a new skin.

STrifle:



Skin:



Most of these have at least 300 - 400 shapes lol

Who here beleives it would be better to replace fists with a blastech pistol? Or replace another weapon...

Those fists look good, but the texture is strange and the hands are way too big compared with the rest of the model.

That and the face is a different skin color than the hands.

And some of the other body proportions are off, too.

The bryar and e-11 look very nice, their current position onscreen doesn't do them justice. Try the patented 'seifer technique' to show them off a little better. If you don't know what that is, ask and I'm sure someone more helpful than I will tell you.

Also, these RPG features seem interesting. Can you give us some examples?

Did someone say EULA violation of MOTS--->JK!!

Did someone say that it doesn't matter as long as you don't directly port any materials from MOTS to JK?

I made a custom model and textures, no mots lol

im just asking if it would make people happyer with it than other guns.. (im not removing the briar :P)

Just have both.

And it's spelt Bryar, not Briar.

Jed spells it 'briar', so that might be part of it...

SWEET LAVA

Those are my textures, several of them, to be precise. And the level looks very much like mine too. Check out my level 'ORJ Secret Temple - Preview' - it's hosted here on Massassi:

http://www.massassi.net/levels/files/2943.shtml



Xzero, it's cool my level 'inspired' you. But don't you think the level looks a little too much like mine? I don't want to say 'rip off'.... but....geez it IS a rip-off of my level, face it. If this is what you're gonna do with them, you don't have my permission to use the textures, sorry. Try to be more original... besides you should have asked about those textures in the first place!

Don't imitate people's levels man, please! And especially not when you're going to use the same textures too!!! (I'm not saying you should only change the textures, I'm saying you should scratch that level - anyone can see it's a rip-off.)

Other than that, cool work on the mod. It's an adaptation of SBX isn't it?

Your lava texture, my changed valley of the jedi textures, the platform was a idea from the preview, my carpet mat, most of it is mine, but yeah, as stated in the orj forums, im scratchin the level to work on my older level i havent touched in a while.

Trust me when i say, i hate making levels when it turns out to look like another, like several of my other levels.

lol briar bryar, same thing lol

You also used my glowing wall textures (adapted from the VotJ textures, true- but I can see they're mine nonetheless - the bottom of the platform for example - my texture, my idea, only used in a different place). And with the pillars and the platform you have basically the same level except for the bridges.

oh forgot about that one, ok thats the last one, i went thraugh them, i hope it doesnt cause problems between us, im replacing them right now and going to change the structure of the level instead of scratching it since i have enaugh in it

anyway this isnt about the level, its the mod lol

Pay attention to this screenshot:



Youll see i made those textures if you want proof.

With all of my harsh criticism, I have to say I don't like either of those maps... they're nothing more than a square room with lava at the bottom and long stone catwalks (with no supports preventing them from falling into the lava?!) The textures are cartoony and hard on the eyes.... and I'm sorry to say it JoS, but you're not the 1st to make and release a cube sector with catwalks and lava... You should feel honored that anyone even bothered enough to emmulate your map....

Look, I understand artist's pride.... I've been there before. But it isn't like he ripped archi outta you're original GOB and rereleased it. I agree, he shudda asked you 1st for those textures... but seriously man, let him use them if he wants to. I mean, what are you hording them for? An open source community doesn't die easily. Let him slide JoS, it's just not worth it.

Alright doesnt mattrer, this post is about the mod not the maps lol

can anyone who reads this ignore the map thing, and jsut comment the models and mod?

The bryar model is beautiful. I'd say don't bother using a seifer cog on it as it doesn't appear to have any clipping errors. The way it's displayed on screen is very good looking; it probably wouldn't hurt to try and point it at where the crosshair is aiming a little more, but it's not a big deal.

The ST rifle replacement just needs a better mount animation so it's held at a better angle; I can't tell that much about it from the screenshot, but it doesn't look bad from what I can see. I'd recommend not showing any flesh (like the hand under the barrel) if possible, as it detracts from the continuity when using a character with non-standard hand textures in multiplayer.

I'm not very impressed by the character model. I've seen those hands before, the textures for clothing are indistinct, and the head and neck really don't match the rest of the body. There's also something kinda bleh happening at the belt.

QM

If you have to use a magnifying lens to tell two levels apart, it's still a rip-off.

lol who cares its the mod we are tlaking bout. i got rid of level anyway.

Xzero and I settled it. We know eachother, so no biggie.

It's not like I'm asking to ban him. I was just a li'l upset to see a redo of my level.

As far as the criticism on my level goes:
I'll humbly admit that my level isn't the greatest thing out there, I know it's limitations, but that's also why it was a preview. I redid the room for my final release version (the entire temple) and I can assure you it'll be lots better. I know the bridges aren't supported, etc. The final version will look much rounder in places, and will have some new features. I have to say I personally like the texturing (I like the old JK temple textures, if put to good use.) But that's just a matter of taste I guess. But it IS my first level and I am still proud of it! People love it.

But the main idea behind the room is the gameplay, which is pretty good in my own humble opinion. If you play mods like SBX (which we do continuously), it really works. We duel on the narrowest bridges, it's totally designed for that. I have downloaded about 70% of the levels on massassi, and I know there are more rooms with lava, but nothing quite exacly like this. Nothing that has this kind of gameplay. It is designed to do Obi/QuiGon vs. Maul type-duels, jumping from one bridge to the other, down to the pillars, etc. Chasing eachother. All the possible jumps in the level are calculated. Of course the duel of the Fates level has lots of bridges too, but they're all too wide for our duelling tastes and too high up and far apart for smooth gameplay. Plus lava is cooler than just nothing at all down there. Ok, enough about my level.

Xzero, that bryar looks great, but you could have taken better screenies, lol. The skin is awesome too. I could never do that. Are those 16 bit textures? The hands look a little too big or is it me?

glad we settled it lol, anyway its 16 bit textures on all the models, and yeah the hands are big lol

i used some regular SBX mats for him, except the face, those are me when i had short hair (now its very long lol and its straight instead of curly as it would have been if it was long, but since winter its been straight :D)

anyway the models hold about 400 textures or so, and im making a new skin along with a new Blastech Pistol (I havent figured out which weapon to replace yet, someone give sugestions)

Ok heres a screenshot of my blastech pistol.



What do you think?

it has 472 shapes

Wow... you're skilled enough to match and or beat me at modeling. Great job. Would you be interested in assisting me with texturing sometime? I'm a capable modeler and would be willing to donate any models you might need, including a bowcaster model, etc.

JediKirby

lol thanks

if its possible can u get me a repeater and rail detonator model? im kinda lazy to make those right now, im busu with lightsabers lol

dont need textures i think i have some tho lol

Yeah, that's because it's the model from Jedi Academy. Looks like a modified version of the internal model, to be precise.

BUSTED!

what?!


omg i knew it was good but i didnt think it was THAT good...

how the hell am i suposed to get it from JA? the bryar isnt even in there is it? iv never seen it

plus, i only have JA for Xbox

trust me on this, its pure jed at its maximum

They were talking about the blastech pistol.

I was talking about the DL-44 actually.

EDIT: Dominik said it first

oh, its still not a take from JA, i have no way of getting it into jk, plus i heard something from a friend taht the models are 100x bigger....

please dont tell me that its a rip from JO or JA... i hate it when i take up a whole day to make something and someone says its from a different game or its riped. just makes it feel like a waste of time.

I'm looking at the two models side by side. This is your last chance to admit you ripped it before I post the picture.

BURN!

lol guyz i maed thiz zelda mod 4 jk and its almost 300gb its realy good will somebody host it on teh intrweb plz

Oh do post a pic thrawn, it will be almost as entertaining as the discussion forum

Nah, I'm going to give him a chance to back out of this.

CAUSE I'M EVER SO NICE

You didn't make those circled textures. You are both obviously liars. Furthermore, I would submit that the levels look similiar because they are both big empty boxes with bad architecture and worse texturing. No matter how many times you accuse someone of stealing your crap, it's still crap.

Dangit JM, you ruined my fun! I still have to see if he'll admit to stealing the gun.