Here's a little concept level I whipped up for JK Arena. Basically, it mimics the "noclip" view of more modern engines. Spectators are still confined to a spectatiting area, but they have the ability to "see through walls" and view the entire arena.

Screenshots don't do it justice, so here's a download:

http://dsettahr.massassi.net/download/noclip.zip

It runs as a single player level. The JKA cogs aren't implemented, I just put it together this afternoon as a "proof of concept" and I doubt the gameplay would be all that good.

Ahh, so this is why you wanted to know how to get all sectors always rendered. Cool idea.

Wow, that's a great idea!

How'd you do it? I'm too lazy to sift through the Gob tonight.

hmm remind me of a noclip mod i had once.

No one is interested in my idea?

It's a good idea. If I got it right, you have set the "outer" surfaces of the arena to geo 0. Simple, but effective.

Excellent idea. You should write a quick tutorial for Massassi.

I saw your latest screenshots in the editors corner, and I must say that it's looking great.

Sorry for no reply for a while, but I had an backlog of stuff I had to get out of the way, anyway with all of that crap out of the way I grabbed the chance at checking this out, and I got to say it works great.

trying it now

'Mod'

The question I have is, can anyone actually play in the middle 3do area? Right now, it doesn't look like it exists in a sector so players would just fall/hom. Correct me if I'm wrong or missing something.

I dont have the cogs for JKA implemented but yes, it would work, players would be able to play in the center arena. They wouldnt fall through or anything... to them it would look like they were simply in a room, they wouldnt be able to see the spectator area at all.