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2005-08-06, 6:13 AM #1
I had multiple ideas for a cover for my once-to-be-book, this is the second concept I've drawn out. (the first wasn't really worth showcasing...) I kinda like it myself.

[http://veddertheshredder.com/drawing/FallaciesOfGoodAndEvil02.jpg]

Symbology:

The foetus stands for innocence and/of mankind.
The figure where the umbilical cord is attached to: "Heart of Darkness" (see also: here and here), represents the religion and paradigm of the main character in the book.
The (*) figure stands for "The Eye of the Beholder", meaning a God who beholds everything.
The idea of a God who watches the foetus, also points to the possibility that perhaps the life of the main character was already decided by this God before he was born.

Comments, criticism?
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2005-08-06, 6:47 AM #2
Monster kid
2005-08-06, 7:22 AM #3
Originally posted by ZOOIkes:
The idea of a God who watches the foetus also points to the fact that perhaps the life of the main character was already decided by this God before he was born.

Comments, criticism?


I think it is a mistake to refer to the presence of a possibility as a "fact."
2005-08-06, 7:38 AM #4
Indeed a poor choice of words :)
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2005-08-06, 7:55 AM #5
A fallacy, one might say!


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2005-08-06, 11:12 AM #6
Hey, it seems to be a fantasy story, so why are you fussing about real world religion...
I like the cover, doubt that many people would buy a black book, though.
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2005-08-06, 11:28 AM #7
Originally posted by zagibu:
Hey, it seems to be a fantasy story, so why are you fussing about real world religion...


Who is? No one is. You misread his post. He merely corrected Zooikes for saying "this suggested that fact that possibly" Ie: you can't call something that is only possible a "fact", "idea" would be a better term.

Not bad for the book, but it seems kind of odd and... why would no one buy it because it's black? Thats ridiculous.
2005-08-06, 12:08 PM #8
I've quite some of black books on my shelves (Clive Barker's Coldheart Canyon, Michael Elly's Alpha Centauri Trilogy, Arthur C Clark Collected Stories (well it's got some stars and nebulae as wel), Chuck Palahniuk's Haunted, to name a few).

Below is a small excerpt of what the story of the book is about (copied from my website), which might put the cover drawing more into perspective:

Quote:
FGE is a sci-fi/fantasy story about a man. This man started his life in the gutters of a futuristic world, but during his life he manages to work himself up in the hierarchy of mortal men. Eventually he becomes so powerful in the universe that a God approaches him. The God acknowledges the power and greatness of the man, but fears his extremism. The God, who after billions of years only craves death, forces the man to undergo several quests. In return the man will be able to take the Gods place in the universe. The quests are designed to temperate the mans extremism regarding politics and humanity and to teach the man exactly what is really good or evil. But what will the man learn from his quest when he sees Gods truth and moral, when all his life he has believed in something else? He was after all an atheist before he met God. And is it really this Gods truth and moral that is the most perfect one? In his quest the man will visit various worlds among which:
- Present day Earth
- A post-apocalyptic world which was once wrecked by a meteorite while in their Middle Ages and is now on the verge of industrial revolution.
- A futuristic world under control of a fascist state.
- An alien world, low on iron, where a pretentious God uses biotechnology to create an indestructible army of bioengineered sub races to conquer the universe with.
And that is only the beginning.
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2005-08-06, 1:35 PM #9
[QUOTE=Raoul Duke]Who is? No one is. You misread his post. He merely corrected Zooikes for saying "this suggested that fact that possibly" Ie: you can't call something that is only possible a "fact", "idea" would be a better term.
[/QUOTE]I see.

[QUOTE=Raoul Duke]Not bad for the book, but it seems kind of odd and... why would no one buy it because it's black? Thats ridiculous.[/QUOTE]I used to work in the marketing department of a monthly magazine, and thus know some things about presentation. I've got some black books on the shelf, myself, but they were bought because I already knew the author. Black is quickly associated with Satanism (I know, it sounds stupid, heck it even IS stupid, but it's what I've learnt on the job) and the title AND the picture add to the occult feeling.
I'm not saying noone is going to buy it, but you must understand, that you are narrowing your "first contact" chances by giving the book an occult look.
"Häb Pfrässe, süsch chlepfts!" - The coolest language in the world (besides Cherokee)
2005-08-07, 6:34 PM #10
Originally posted by zagibu:
I see.

I used to work in the marketing department of a monthly magazine, and thus know some things about presentation. I've got some black books on the shelf, myself, but they were bought because I already knew the author. Black is quickly associated with Satanism (I know, it sounds stupid, heck it even IS stupid, but it's what I've learnt on the job) and the title AND the picture add to the occult feeling.
I'm not saying noone is going to buy it, but you must understand, that you are narrowing your "first contact" chances by giving the book an occult look.

Well I think his target audience would be attracted to a book like that. He's not marketing it to middle aged soccer moms. It's made for teenagers and those more into fantasy, who are much more open to, and often directly attracted to, material of a darker nature.
2005-08-08, 4:49 AM #11
And Satanism is mostely an American thing, I doubt one would relate things to Satanism anywhere else in the western world except perhaps in the Vatican.

The content of the book is also pretty dark (or at least important parts of it), so I think a dark cover fits with it. And I also wanted to have the contrast of dark and bright colours because of the "Good and Evil"-thing.
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