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So you didn't like my orbit.
2005-11-03, 8:18 AM #1
Well, I did some more tweaking to the orbit, the battle, the ships and what not. Here's the newest goodies. In fact, I'm very pleased with how the Orbit turned out!

A nice feature of XWA is that it offers Flightgroup colors....

Coruscant
[http://www.bluephantom.de/Images/wips/Orbit1.jpg]

Mustafar
[http://www.bluephantom.de/Images/wips/Orbit2.jpg]

Mon Calamari
[http://www.bluephantom.de/Images/wips/Orbit3.jpg]

Random Movie-style Shot
[http://www.bluephantom.de/Images/wips/IHand8.jpg]
ESS Supreme Commander Vince Trageton
Vince T's X-Wing HQ
The Blue Phantom Project
2005-11-03, 8:24 AM #2
Wow, fantastic. I see my nagging paid off! Great job.
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2005-11-03, 10:14 AM #3
:D
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2005-11-03, 1:55 PM #4
How easy is it to change colors of the atmosphere? Blue isn't cannon with ANY description of Coruscant.
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2005-11-03, 11:58 PM #5
That'd be a simple color change, that atmosphere is actually a texture on ring like the edge of a frying pan
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Vince T's X-Wing HQ
The Blue Phantom Project
2005-11-04, 12:08 AM #6
Originally posted by JediKirby:
How easy is it to change colors of the atmosphere? Blue isn't cannon with ANY description of Coruscant.


[http://www.vision.caltech.edu/feifeili/101_ObjectCategories/cannon/image_0002.jpg] ?
2005-11-04, 3:57 AM #7
So funnay.

And I REALLY need to get XWA for that.

2005-11-04, 4:09 AM #8
Originally posted by JediKirby:
How easy is it to change colors of the atmosphere? Blue isn't cannon with ANY description of Coruscant.


It's true that there shouldn't be any blue glow since there are no oceans to reflect that color back into the atmosphere. I'm not sure what color it should have though.
Dreams of a dreamer from afar to a fardreamer.
2005-11-04, 5:36 AM #9
Then what do you call That color?

I might change the particular blue tone a little to be less cyan, but all it'll stay that way. Period.
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Vince T's X-Wing HQ
The Blue Phantom Project
2005-11-04, 7:38 AM #10
Originally posted by Fardreamer:
It's true that there shouldn't be any blue glow since there are no oceans to reflect that color back into the atmosphere. I'm not sure what color it should have though.


Yeah, that's not why the sky's blue
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2005-11-04, 9:30 AM #11
I believe the ovean is blue due to the reflection of the blue sky, and the sky is blue due to the way air bends/reflects (i honestly don't know) sunlight.
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2005-11-04, 9:45 AM #12
Originally posted by BobTheMasher:
and the sky is blue due to the way air bends/reflects (i honestly don't know) sunlight.


That's true when viewed from the Earth, however I'm not sure it's the same when viewed from space. The fact that the oceans are blue because of the sky doesn't mean blue-wavelength light isn't reflected back. I mean, it obviously is since we see the oceans in blue from space. But then I don't really know what I'm talking about.

Bah, all this is nitpicking anyway. Reduce the cyan value in the tint and it's perfect :p
Dreams of a dreamer from afar to a fardreamer.
2005-11-04, 10:28 AM #13
The sky is blue because when the sun's rays indirectly strike it, the higher-range (red) light bounces off, while the lower range (blue) bounces down toward earth.

2005-11-04, 10:40 AM #14
Everything but blue is absorbed, rather than deflected. Looks at burning nitrogen gas (like a neon bulb, but with N) through a diffraction lens and you'll see the blue bands, hence the color.
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2005-11-04, 11:01 AM #15
Right, but again, that is true when standing ON the planet. If blue light weren't reflected back into space, Earth's oceans wouldn't appear blue. The question is whether the blue tint in the atmosphere, when viewed as a cross section from orbit, is due to direct sunlight refraction or to reflected light from the oceans (or both).
Dreams of a dreamer from afar to a fardreamer.
2005-11-04, 11:13 AM #16
Still amazing.
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2005-11-04, 1:36 PM #17
Oh boy....
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The Blue Phantom Project
2005-11-04, 2:14 PM #18
Welcome to the Massassi Showcase :)
Dreams of a dreamer from afar to a fardreamer.
2005-11-04, 3:26 PM #19
sorry for the stupid question, but what game is this again?
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2005-11-04, 4:14 PM #20
X-wing Alliance
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2005-11-04, 4:28 PM #21
Originally posted by Fardreamer:
Welcome to the Massassi Showcase :)


:confused:

2005-11-04, 5:19 PM #22
In response to
Originally posted by General_Trageton:
Oh boy....
Dreams of a dreamer from afar to a fardreamer.
2005-11-06, 4:07 AM #23
Alright, how's that blue?

[http://www.bluephantom.de/Images/wips/ARC2.jpg]
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The Blue Phantom Project
2005-11-06, 7:54 AM #24
About the scene in general, since this in XWA, are you giving them Hold orders, or are they actually flying around and stuff? And how'd you get the craft to rotate properly? (unless that's an ability in AlliEd that New Horizons doesn't have)
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2005-11-06, 8:05 AM #25
The entire battle is fully functional. You could just as well fly to a safe distance and watch the ships shoot the living crap out of each other. The ships have certain orders and certain paths connected to these.

For example: If the Invisible Hand's hull goes beneath 25% it'll 'kamikaze attack' the planet, i.e. it'll crash into the atmosphere. Of course, the mission will be lost then :) Some ships, when destroyed will 'go down' as well.
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The Blue Phantom Project
2005-11-06, 8:14 AM #26
I REALLY need to find my X-Wing Alliance CD-ROM for this! Quite awesome indeed. I'm curious, how long until you've completely finished this battle? How much more stuff is there to add? Also, will it be part of a huge Episode III campaign once you're done? I didn't care for the new SW movies much, but this rendition of it could be quite a different matter! :D
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2005-11-06, 8:58 AM #27
Originally posted by General_Trageton:
Alright, how's that blue?
Excellent.
Dreams of a dreamer from afar to a fardreamer.
2005-11-06, 9:23 AM #28
Not...
It should be golden, if not, gray. I've seen green interpitations before as well.
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2005-11-06, 10:38 AM #29
It stays blue.

Anyway. Well, for now I planned it to come as a single shipset. That means this mission pluss the ships, all as a standalone installer.

However, there are numerous other sub-projects in the works, related to the Clone Wars in general. DTM, the guy who made the Jedi Interceptor and several other craft, is mainly working on those. But he also stated he originally intended to have each campaign independant.

That's still in theory though. There might as well be a full release, when all parts are completed.

As for the Coruscant stuff, I plan to have it all done by christmas at the worst. Here's the current status
- Jedi Interceptor: Done by DTM
- Tri-Droid: Done by Berruga
- Vulture Droid: EP1 version Done by Darksaber
- Venator Star Destroyer: Done by me
- Invisible Hand: WIP 80% by me
- Banking Clan Frigate: WIP 60% by me
- Trade Federation Battleship: WIP 95% by me
- ARC-170: WIP 90% by Master Qui-Gon & me

The Mission itself is pretty much done, safe for some fine-tuning every now and then. What remains to be done is the briefing.
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Vince T's X-Wing HQ
The Blue Phantom Project
2005-11-06, 11:22 AM #30
Why do you want it to stay blue? Wasn't in the movies. Grayish blue is the closest to blue you can consider:

http://www.posterplanet.net/new/images/spacestarfighters.jpg

Consider that the entire planet is a city... it's not going to have a clear blue atmosphere at all.
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2005-11-06, 11:23 AM #31
There are a lot more than 8 different types ships flying around in there, aren't there?
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2005-11-06, 11:55 AM #32
Lemme see ....

- Venator (around 10x)
- Trade Federation Cruiser (Invisible Hand) (1x)
- Trade Federation Battleship (2x)
- Banking Clan Frigate (Around 9x)
- Republic Dreadnaught (1x)
- Carrack Cruiser (3x)
- Strike Cruiser (Stands in for the Commerce Guild Ship, which I won't make) (1x)

- Jedi Interceptor (2x)
- ARC-170 (6 squads)
- Droid Starfighter (5 squads)
- Tri-Droid (2 squads)

The Venators and the TF Battleships will utilize different Flightgroup colors. I'm also thinking of putting in a VSD for the sake of variety in the Republic fleet.
ESS Supreme Commander Vince Trageton
Vince T's X-Wing HQ
The Blue Phantom Project
2005-11-06, 12:15 PM #33
:eek:

You don't believe in sparing any detail, do you? ;)
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2005-11-07, 2:48 AM #34
Figures ;)
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Vince T's X-Wing HQ
The Blue Phantom Project

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