The drawing is going very slow these days.... my priority for the past 2 weeks has been getting rid of this damn kidney stone... it's hard to concentrate on something like drawing when you're trying to give birth to a solid calcium boulder. Now that I've given you all that horrid mental image, here's a better one:



And this was the reference:



Now note the large red stamp!! The only reason I'm posting this crap is because I was hoping to get some constructive feedback before I finalize this sketch after work tomorrow. The conc is one gun I expect everyone to be picky about, so I'd rather everyone post their thoughts before I go thru with tedious shading... just in case some serious alterations need to be made.

Either way, I have to have this one done by tomorrow (it's taken way too long all ready)... so hurry up and gimme yer 2 cents!

Both of those look amazing. I'd forgotten how cool DF's weapons were.

Very cool. I think a more high-tech, artificial-looking stock would be better, though.

yea, maybe... I was trying to achieve a more 'rifle' look than the original versions, and I think the stock does just that... so I dunno. Im not sure if that part is even worth the revision, since it's hardly noticable in-game... perhaps if enough people complain about it.

Separate the trigger guard from the reciever and it'll be godly.

I actually like the stock. Just don't slap a brown texture on it, or I'll slap you in the face (yes I'm a man, and yes, I DO slap).

I love it Halucid. There's not much I can think of at the moment, but perhaps add some more indentations along the barrel for more detail? I love the duel clips and the way they're arranged. Keep it up man, and also, how are ya feeling? Last time I heard you had mono.

That is awesome! I like it nearly as much as your repeater and your repeater is freaking sweet! I like the stock just how it is.

Wood stock or you lose.

i love the stock

Does this mean I win?

Well, as for the stock being wood or whatnot, I'll leave that up to Shred (or whom ever else will be texturing it). If it were up to me, I'd opt for a gunmetal stock and brushed steel for the most of the rest of the gun.

All right then, I suppose I can finalize this with shading and detailing... then I'll submit my rail det for your approval.

Yeah you do that

I have no idea what's going on above the clips. Care to explain? You might need to slap me together a rough 3D angle for me.

Otherwise, it looks absolutelly fantastic. Great work.

Above the clips there's the offhand vertical handle.

Love the sketch. DF's weapons rocked.

Ah-hah, I had considered that, but now I see it exactly. Thanks.

I hope it isnt to late to say, REMOVE THAT SWITCH!! it just looks wrong there, I would try to go with something a little more..... less pointy? like make the switch so its kinda flush with the gun. I dunno how to explain it, its main handle it touching the gun pointing towards the end of the gun and u flick it up and down?

Just a suggestion cause it looks out of place.

i say make the bottom part thinner, as illustrated with my amazing ms paint skillz

right now it looks more like a concussion canon, and not a rifle... granted, it acts more like a cannon, but I think it would look better if it were just a bit thinner, and it'd look more like the JK conc (and before anyone says it, the DF conc and the JK conc have exactly the same design, save for one being thinner than the other. you just need to learn to look at the textures)

Oh snap!!

First thing you have to remember is that the actual "barrel" of the gun is only that rounded area that curves outward from the side of the gun. Nothing shoots from that large lower portion. That part is likely the guts and mechanics of the gun... all of the technology needed for producing a projectile of ionized air. Real rifles shoot bullets, you see.... so it stands to reason a real rifle wouldn't need such a section attached to the bottom of the barrel.

As for the proportions, this was the method to my madness:



And the original DF one had such a switch..... dunno what it was for..... Cell detatchment? Who knows... but I like it.

Yeah, the switch might look out of place on the wireframe, but it will be easy to remove when it also looks bad on the textured model.

Look more closely at that 'switch'. It is actually a ring. It was probably meant as an attachment point for a strap.

Completelly agreed.

Looks really nice.

Well, I'll be... That DOES look like it could be a ring.

It makes sense as a ring. A gun that beefy needs a strap. Kyle is just too manly to use it.

[edit]Also, that sprite now looks to me like the thing below the barel is shorter. [/edit]