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Jedi Training: A Special Effects Video

2006-01-24, 6:26 AM #1

KnightRider2000

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Thanks for all the help with the film on the General Forum. That's me in the video by the way, trying to find a way to get my car keys. Let's see where this paradox leads... Hope you enjoy.

http://www.horizonpm.net/jeditraining.html

The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

-G Man

2006-01-24, 7:44 AM #2

JediKirby

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Wow.

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2006-01-24, 7:48 AM #3

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hehe cool

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2006-01-24, 8:30 AM #4

Ruthven

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hahaha, jedi's tend to be more long haired, and loose the wife beater

Code:

if(getThingFlags(source) & 0x8){
  do her}
elseif(getThingFlags(source) & 0x4){
  do other babe}
else{
  do a dude}

2006-01-24, 10:07 AM #5

Baconfish

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Nice. How'd you do that then?

nope.

2006-01-24, 11:37 AM #6

Hell Raiser

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He acted it out in reverse. Threw his car keys, fumbled his hand around, then looked all perplexed and stuff.

I like the BGM btw, where'd ya get it?

-Hell Raiser

2006-01-24, 12:01 PM #7

KnightRider2000

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[QUOTE=Hell Raiser]He acted it out in reverse. Threw his car keys, fumbled his hand around, then looked all perplexed and stuff.

I like the BGM btw, where'd ya get it?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, that's why i asked the reverse footage question in the other forum. Reversing film is probably the best way to get special effects, WAY better than CGI. They've been doing it since the turn the early 1900's and it works really well.

http://www.infauxmedia.com/swmusical/control_room.htm

It's part of the karoke version of Confrontation from Star Wars: the Musical. It's legal and free to download right from the composer's website.

The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

-G Man

2006-01-24, 12:05 PM #8

Darkjedibob

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The other way to get that effect is to use a dollar snatcher, but I haven't had my hands on one of those in a long time.

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2006-01-24, 12:16 PM #9

KnightRider2000

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Originally posted by Darkjedibob:

The other way to get that effect is to use a dollar snatcher...

Reverse looks so much better IMHO. I have some "invisble" wire, but to me, reverse just gives it that mystical effect.

The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

-G Man

2006-01-24, 12:39 PM #10

Hell Raiser

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Damn, I'm good.

-Hell Raiser

2006-01-24, 2:42 PM #11

Goldor_the_master

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Whoa, the reverse effect is only noticeable when you are waving your arm to get the keys. It's because your arms move in a strange way lol, but you have to know it's reversed to be able tonotice that. Good job

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2006-01-24, 8:13 PM #12

KnightRider2000

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http://www.horizonpm.net/jeditraining.html

I've UPDATED the video. Please click on the link to view the new one. I've added some cuts and close-ups. Tell me how you like it!

The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

-G Man

2006-01-24, 11:43 PM #13

Antony

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[QUOTE=Hell Raiser]Damn, I'm good. ;)[/QUOTE]
Yeah. You managed to figure out the most common and easy to notice video effects in the history of film.

Congratulations. How do you think they did it in STAR WARS?

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2006-01-25, 6:33 AM #14

Darkjedibob

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There'a a few scenes with Jabba that are played in reverse, too :p

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2006-01-25, 11:00 PM #15

Hell Raiser

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Originally posted by Bill:

Yeah. You managed to figure out the most common and easy to notice video effects in the history of film.

Thanks. Guess that's not bad, seeing's how I don't know ****, nor care, about about film effects history.

Quote:

Congratulations. How do you think they did it in STAR WARS?

I don't think about how they make movies. I watch them and move on with my life.

-Hell Raiser

2006-01-26, 6:51 AM #16

KnightRider2000

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Anyone like the new cutscenes? I thought that just the one scene with no cuts looked blah, so I added a few extra scenes. I tried to create suspense and humor all at once, and the music seemed to have a lot to do with that. The movie without music was about half of what it is now.

The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

-G Man

2006-01-26, 4:46 PM #17

DjDTM

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:P, Neat, but its been overdone.

EVEN BY ME.

Check it out:

Link removed due to internet ******ry. Oo look censorship.

The real word is *******. BEAT THAT!

[edit - I win (mb)]

Even though the topic says october.

It was really done like 2 years ago, and to me it was "New movie making technology" back then.

Edit:

Notice the use of JK DF2 sound effects.

2006-01-26, 5:16 PM #18

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you should really ask people before you post your own work in their threads

[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.

2006-01-26, 5:20 PM #19

Spiral

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hey, where's this thred you speak of where u discuss reverse photography? I want to use it extensively in one of my films, but I can't figure out how to do it in Primere.

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2006-01-26, 5:23 PM #20

DjDTM

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Originally posted by MBeggar:

you shold really ask people before you post your own work in their threads

OMG RUN ITS THE INTERNET POLICE!

2006-01-26, 5:26 PM #21

I am the Stig

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Its called being respectful k?

[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.

2006-01-26, 5:52 PM #22

DjDTM

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lolk

2006-01-26, 6:04 PM #23

dalf

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How about you follow the rules or be banned from here?

Code to the left of him, code to the right of him, code in front of him compil'd and thundered. Programm'd at with shot and $SHELL. Boldly he typed and well. Into the jaws of C. Into the mouth of PERL. Debug'd the 0x258.

2006-01-26, 6:12 PM #24

KnightRider2000

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Originally posted by Spiral:

hey, where's this thred you speak of where u discuss reverse photography? I want to use it extensively in one of my films, but I can't figure out how to do it in Primere.

http://forums.massassi.net/vb3/showthread.php?t=38894&highlight=reverse

It briefly mentions it, I used a FREE demo of Sony Vegas 6.0 to do it. Worked really well.

Oh yeah, it is rude to post stuff like that DjDTM. If you mention it, that's good enough.

Next I will be doing some special effects with models, and if I have enough patience, try to incoperate some rotoscoping into it using Flash. Anyone ever rotoscoped? It takes a LONG time (frame-by-fram) I hear.

The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world.

-G Man

2006-01-26, 6:15 PM #25

JediKirby

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Originally posted by KnightRider2000:

Oh yeah, it is rude to post stuff like that DjDTM. If you mention it that's good enough.

I have to agree. I'd probably flip out and report your post if you posted your own version of my model in one of my threads. Actually, I'd probably just hunt you down and make useful trinkets out of your innards.

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2006-01-27, 8:20 AM #26

Goldor_the_master

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I'm experienced in rotoscoping, what I do mainly is lightsabers but also some force effects (lightning for now but i'll try some others). The only thing with rotoscoping is that it takes a LONG time, you got 30 frames per second to review and play with accordingly. You also need the good programs for it, the best is Adobe After Effects but there is also Photoshop which can do the job.

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2006-01-27, 9:01 AM #27

Darkjedibob

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I've only done stills, haven't tried rotoscoping yet.

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2006-01-27, 10:16 AM #28

Overlord

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Rotoscoping in Photoshop is hard. Well not hard, just very long and time consuming. After Effects works much better because your are able to have keyframes so the computer does most of the work.

2006-01-27, 11:59 AM #29

Goldor_the_master

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To do rotoscoping in photoshop you will also need premiere, because you need to do the transfer from video to filmstrip, which is a big image with all your frames placed in order. But After Effects is really the best for rotoscoping.

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2006-01-27, 6:16 PM #30

DjDTM

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Originally posted by JediKirby:

Actually, I made my video first a long time ago, so actually its really his is a version of mine and a few thousand others.

And if you really getting your e-panties in a bunch I'll just remove the link.

Note:
Please, for the sake of humanity, stop taking the internet seriously.

Edit:

Kirby, some one already did.

You moderate JKHUB.

Xzero is making his own high quality jk mod.

Wtf are you doing about it?

2006-01-27, 6:43 PM #31

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DjDTM

Take it to PM if you are that seriously annoyed by this.

[01:52] <~Nikumubeki> Because it's MBEGGAR BEGS LIKE A BEGONI.